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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #125 on: April 07, 2010, 05:46:09 AM »
funny that a place like getbig, that worhips morbidly obese people (bodybuilders) would want to abuse other morbidly obese people

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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #126 on: April 07, 2010, 05:47:30 AM »
I am not an expert but I have listened to fat people and debated with them. I had to correct many of my assumptions about obesity. Those of us who bodybuild think we know how to manage body composition and for young males that probably works. However, it is quite another matter dealing with the obese population and not at all easy to reverse obesity.

Many people have tried to account for the obesity epidemic in some western countries. The USA surely leads the world but apparently Australia is up there as well. I don't see widespread obesity in Australia compared to what I have seen in some American cities. With a huge population like America you find more extremes and thus observe some really fat people when you are shopping. Sweden has a different culture where physical shape and condition are more important. In addition, living up north requires more calories to maintain body heat and thus prevents obesity in those countries. Canadians are not as obese as Americans and you can see that difference comparing Vancouver to Seattle. What exactly causes so many to get so big? Well, that isn't difficult to specify. What is more interesting is who are the people who get obese? Do they have some genetic 'advantage' that is behind obesity? I think we will find that there are many factors combining to explain this phenomenon.

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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #127 on: April 07, 2010, 05:52:53 AM »
I don't like to see photos of fat women eating a lot of food. There are some guys called feeders who like the idea of women gorging themselves so some fat models take photos to please these customers. Outsiders don't see that and find the whole thing disgusting.

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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #128 on: April 07, 2010, 06:02:22 AM »
Hey Basile, hypothetical situation, you are out taking photos and you have only one picture left on your film. You see a group of shirtless speedo wearing preteen lads and a group of 500 pound Sheila's, whose pic do you take?
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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #129 on: April 07, 2010, 06:13:40 AM »
I am not an expert but I have listened to fat people and debated with them. I had to correct many of my assumptions about obesity. Those of us who bodybuild think we know how to manage body composition and for young males that probably works. However, it is quite another matter dealing with the obese population and not at all easy to reverse obesity.

Many people have tried to account for the obesity epidemic in some western countries. The USA surely leads the world but apparently Australia is up there as well. I don't see widespread obesity in Australia compared to what I have seen in some American cities. With a huge population like America you find more extremes and thus observe some really fat people when you are shopping. Sweden has a different culture where physical shape and condition are more important. In addition, living up north requires more calories to maintain body heat and thus prevents obesity in those countries. Canadians are not as obese as Americans and you can see that difference comparing Vancouver to Seattle. What exactly causes so many to get so big? Well, that isn't difficult to specify. What is more interesting is who are the people who get obese? Do they have some genetic 'advantage' that is behind obesity? I think we will find that there are many factors combining to explain this phenomenon.



If you say that fat or obese people have something wrong hormonally in their bodies that makes it easier from them to get to that condition, what is it?
I have to ask a couple of questions too:

1. Why is this obesity problem only prevalent on some countries in the world, especially in the USA, but it doesn't happen in other parts of the world? Are people really that different or are the eating and lifestyle habits what is different?

2. When you look at the north american society before the 1970's or so, there were very little obesity problems. What caused the sudden change in some people? Something magically changed in their bodies hormonal system or did the eating/lifestyle habits change?

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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #130 on: April 07, 2010, 06:16:54 AM »
Hey Basile, hypothetical situation, you are out taking photos and you have only one picture left on your film. You see a group of shirtless speedo wearing preteen lads and a group of 500 pound Sheila's, whose pic do you take?

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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #131 on: April 07, 2010, 06:44:10 AM »
I don't like to see photos of fat women eating a lot of food. There are some guys called feeders who like the idea of women gorging themselves so some fat models take photos to please these customers. Outsiders don't see that and find the whole thing disgusting.

Hmm. Like Assley from BigCuties.Com (who delivers quality!!) that you posted up the previous page!? Quite a prominent pic of her demolishing some great amount of food. Look, if bigger gals are your thing - fine. I think the resistance you're getting here is because your pissing on people's legs and trying to persuade us it's raining.   

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« Reply #132 on: April 07, 2010, 06:48:01 AM »
There was a study done on the Pima Indians of Arizona. Apparently they are related to a tribe of Indians in Mexico and comparisons have been made between the groups to show the contribution of the lifestyle to health and obesity. The Pima Indians have become well to do because of casinos on reserves and this wealth has contributed to all manner of health problems including obesity, diabetes, heart disease and mortality. The related tribe in Mexico do not have any wealth and live primitively compared to their American relatives. The Mexican group work long and hard for a subsistence existence. There are no cars and modern conveniences. Obesity is unknown and diabetes and heart disease rare.

I haven't seen the actual study but many conclude that the American plentiful lifestyle and lack of exercise contribute to their health problems. The Pima have the genes for diabetes but it doesn't present unless environmental factors combine to allow it. The obesity brings heart disease as well.

I suppose in this community is what we find in the USA as a whole. Where lifestyles combine with plenty you find obesity and the related health problems.

What is of interest to Getbiggers is why not everyone gets obese living similar lifestyles. The Getbig explanation is gorging to excess and being lazy and inactive leads to obesity.

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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #133 on: April 07, 2010, 06:51:59 AM »
Hmm. Like Assley from BigCuties.Com (who delivers quality!!) that you posted up the previous page!? Quite a prominent pic of her demolishing some great amount of food. Look, if bigger gals are your thing - fine. I think the resistance you're getting here is because your pissing on people's legs and trying to persuade us it's raining.  

Your analysis here is way off the mark. If I post a photo of Carla it is to promote her website and not to embarrass her.

The resident experts including Dr Chimps are totally uninformed about the issue of obesity from the perspective of the fat people. I would have thought some reading into that information would be required before pontificating about something you know almost nothing about.

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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #134 on: April 07, 2010, 06:55:50 AM »
Your analysis here is way off the mark. If I post a photo of Carla it is to promote her website and not to embarrass her.

The resident experts including Dr Chimps are totally uninformed about the issue of obesity from the perspective of the fat people. I would have thought some reading into that information would be required before pontificating about something you know almost nothing about.

Oh brother. You don't have a clue, do you?

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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #135 on: April 07, 2010, 06:57:47 AM »
You are so condescending. I swear you have become a bona fide asshole from hanging around this forum. That is something I am certain about.

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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #136 on: April 07, 2010, 07:01:56 AM »
There was a study done on the Pima Indians of Arizona. Apparently they are related to a tribe of Indians in Mexico and comparisons have been made between the groups to show the contribution of the lifestyle to health and obesity. The Pima Indians have become well to do because of casinos on reserves and this wealth has contributed to all manner of health problems including obesity, diabetes, heart disease and mortality. The related tribe in Mexico do not have any wealth and live primitively compared to their American relatives. The Mexican group work long and hard for a subsistence existence. There are no cars and modern conveniences. Obesity is unknown and diabetes and heart disease rare.

I haven't seen the actual study but many conclude that the American plentiful lifestyle and lack of exercise contribute to their health problems. The Pima have the genes for diabetes but it doesn't present unless environmental factors combine to allow it. The obesity brings heart disease as well.

I suppose in this community is what we find in the USA as a whole. Where lifestyles combine with plenty you find obesity and the related health problems.

What is of interest to Getbiggers is why not everyone gets obese living similar lifestyles. The Getbig explanation is gorging to excess and being lazy and inactive leads to obesity.


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I haven't seen the actual study but many conclude that the American plentiful lifestyle and lack of exercise contribute to their health problems.

This study you mentioned is showing exactly what I was trying to say. This lifestyle change, eating habits and lack of exercise are the major contributors for the obesity problems.
I can understand your point that some people have it easier becoming obese because of some hormonal problems in their bodies. But how can you be certain they are living lifestyles exactly the same as people who don't have this problem?

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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #137 on: April 07, 2010, 07:03:14 AM »
You are so condescending. I swear you have become a bona fide asshole from hanging around this forum. That is something I am certain about.
I think you need to download a self-awareness firmware upgrade, Vince. You're now embarrassing yourself.  :-\

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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #138 on: April 07, 2010, 07:18:11 AM »

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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #139 on: April 07, 2010, 07:36:35 AM »
Vince is a fat slob and likes to fuck a fat slob. You try to make excuses about being a fat pig and how it's ok when at the end of the day it just shows your lack of willpower is sickening

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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #140 on: April 07, 2010, 07:39:44 AM »
You can dress it up and rationalize it in as many ways as you want - I'm sure the fatties in the other forum do that all the time to justify their looks and eating habits.

BUT,

The bottom line is that if you took all the fat people out there and put them on a restricted calorie diet that is strictly enforced,

1) They will ALL lose weight, without an exception and

2) All of them will love and praise the way they look and feel after they've lost the weight.

There are some guys who like the way those whales look, for sure. But there are also people out there who like kids, animals, female bodybuilders that don't even look human, and even inanimate objects ranging from fruit to God knows what. So the whole 'fat is beautiful' campaign is a load of crap and one that applies only to a very small percentage of the population that's statistically insignificant - it's true, but not the reason people eat like a pig so they can end up looking like one.

All fat people, no matter how much noise they may make about feeling beautiful, have a massive inferiority complex on the inside and hate the average person who is sitting around 20% body fat or less. The ones who actually believe they are beautiful comprise a very small percentage within that bracket and might possibly do it due to some kind of mental illness or because they're light headed from not having eaten anything in the last 5 minutes.

I'm referring to obese people, BTW, not a person who is 10 - 20% bodyfat.

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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #141 on: April 07, 2010, 07:43:08 AM »
Just put my two cents in about fat women,  I have no problem listening to them on the phone or seeing them across the street or wherever.  In most cases they are very nice.  But sexually no way could I ever be with one.  I have never ever been with someone that would be considered fat.  I have been very choosy when it comes to that detail.  I have been with some ugly ones but their bodies made up for it and in most cases I didn't eve kiss them.  Moby (my pet name given to me) has a mind of his own, but he can also see.  I have been in situations where he just won't work cause the girl is not attractive enough.  I do not find fat women attractive physically at all.  But they can be very nice and not made fun of
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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #142 on: April 07, 2010, 07:56:53 AM »

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Re: War against fat people
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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #144 on: April 07, 2010, 08:57:27 AM »

;D

Even thick momma in the middle got airborne. What happened on the end there? Something doesn't seem right to me. Zero gravity defiance for some reason.

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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #145 on: April 07, 2010, 09:00:48 AM »

LOL. I remember kiwi's comment on this diptych was that the girls didn't actually jump in the second pic, the girl at the right just pushed down on the earth.  ;D

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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #147 on: April 07, 2010, 09:42:10 AM »
That poor girl on the right is "gravity challenged".  I think that photo is misleading.  I actually think she saved all those girls lives.  It looks like a huge gust of wind came and she is holding them down so they don't fly away.  Good for her.  She should be recognized as a hero. ;D
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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #148 on: April 07, 2010, 09:48:08 AM »
i find it sickening that these lard asses eat so much food without a second thought about all of the starving people in africa, south america etc.
I dont like twinks.

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Re: War against fat people
« Reply #149 on: April 07, 2010, 09:49:57 AM »
That poor girl on the right is "gravity challenged".  I think that photo is misleading.  I actually think she saved all those girls lives.  It looks like a huge gust of wind came and she is holding them down so they don't fly away.  Good for her.  She should be recognized as a hero. ;D

Oh, I get it....she's the "anchor" .... ;)