Is this old news?

[Ursus]

[~UN_$ung~]

it just came out a few days ago from what i understand

[Ursus]

BTW I aint anti USA at all.

Like a real life MW2 video.

[~UN_$ung~]

BTW I aint anti USA at all.

Like a real life MW2 video.

it really is, sounds like a couple of kids playing halo

[Natural Man]

Looked good to me. And the radio traffic indicated that the Bradley, called a Brad in the video, was taking fire from the guys at the corner.

All I have to say about the collateral damage is that if the people were allowing them to ambush forces in the neighborhood then when someone gets killed or injured is in no way the US fault.

You wanna cry on their shoulder, by all means go over there and cry on their shoulder, I am sure they will appreciate it up till the time they saw your head off.

Normally, I would support an organization like WikiLeaks, for exposing anonymous submissions and leaks of sensitive governmental, corporate, organizational, or religious documents, while attempting to preserve the anonymity and untraceability of its contributors.

However, WikiLeaks "reporting" leaves much to be desired. There is a definite spin to their release of this video. Their analysis shows bias and is quite inflammatory in the way they portray the actions of the US military.

Watching only the video (the evidence), and disclaiming the official Army line and the WikiLeaks portrayal, I can say that there was no deliberate shooting at known unarmed civilians by US forces. PERIOD. Those that did the shooting had been cleared by higher authority to engage, and that higher authority made its decision based on information provided by troops on the ground and in real time.

Mistakes happen.

If you are running around in a combat zone with nothing that distinguishes you from the combatants, carrying equipment that could easily be mistaken for weaponry (cameras with telephoto lenses), you are playing with fire.

[noworries]

That is like playing Call for Duty Modern Warfare

[Natural Man]

That is like playing Call for Duty Modern Warfare

Fascinating comment from an obese adult well in his 40s.

[SF1900]

In part 2 they open fire on a van trying to get carry the wounded away.

[~UN_$ung~]

Looked good to me. And the radio traffic indicated that the Bradley, called a Brad in the video, was taking fire from the guys at the corner.

All I have to say about the collateral damage is that if the people were allowing them to ambush forces in the neighborhood then when someone gets killed or injured is in no way the US fault.

You wanna cry on their shoulder, by all means go over there and cry on their shoulder, I am sure they will appreciate it up till the time they saw your head off.

Normally, I would support an organization like WikiLeaks, for exposing anonymous submissions and leaks of sensitive governmental, corporate, organizational, or religious documents, while attempting to preserve the anonymity and untraceability of its contributors.

However, WikiLeaks "reporting" leaves much to be desired. There is a definite spin to their release of this video. Their analysis shows bias and is quite inflammatory in the way they portray the actions of the US military.

Watching only the video (the evidence), and disclaiming the official Army line and the WikiLeaks portrayal, I can say that there was no deliberate shooting at known unarmed civilians by US forces. PERIOD. Those that did the shooting had been cleared by higher authority to engage, and that higher authority made its decision based on information provided by troops on the ground and in real time.

Mistakes happen.

If you are running around in a combat zone with nothing that distinguishes you from the combatants, carrying equipment that could easily be mistaken for weaponry (cameras with telephoto lenses), you are playing with fire.

how great would it be to send some of these crazy progressive bleeding hearts over there to "console"  those people

[240 is Back]

I can't attack nor defend the video.  It is what it is.  Fog of war, etc.  I dont know enough of the following statements on it to know if coverup, etc.  So I can't make any judgments there.

One thing that bothered me... there were two reporters with camera and 1 guard with a rifle.  The kid called in "5 or 6 guys with AK-47s..." then later said "He has an RPG!" while they were shielded from view.

This was an obvious exaggeration.  Done in an attempt to get permission to light them up?  If he had called in "1 man with rifle.  Two guys carrying shoulder bags", would he have gotten the order to fire?  I don't know.

So while I know the job they do is above anything I do, and I'm not going to criticize the military... the person did deliver an obvious exaggeration.  

[~UN_$ung~]

In part 2 they open fire on a van trying to get carry the wounded away.

that is not some "random" van full of good Samaritans...those are fellow combatants attempting to get their wounded out  

[SF1900]

that is not some "random" van full of good Samaritans...those are fellow combatants attempting to get their wounded out  

With 2 children in the van as well.

[ShipSekki]

 US soldiers over there killing innocent people.

 No surprise...... That's what almost this whole conflict has been.

 They are just doing what they're told though.

[Bones]

Looked good to me. And the radio traffic indicated that the Bradley, called a Brad in the video, was taking fire from the guys at the corner.

All I have to say about the collateral damage is that if the people were allowing them to ambush forces in the neighborhood then when someone gets killed or injured is in no way the US fault.

You wanna cry on their shoulder, by all means go over there and cry on their shoulder, I am sure they will appreciate it up till the time they saw your head off.

Normally, I would support an organization like WikiLeaks, for exposing anonymous submissions and leaks of sensitive governmental, corporate, organizational, or religious documents, while attempting to preserve the anonymity and untraceability of its contributors.

However, WikiLeaks "reporting" leaves much to be desired. There is a definite spin to their release of this video. Their analysis shows bias and is quite inflammatory in the way they portray the actions of the US military.

Watching only the video (the evidence), and disclaiming the official Army line and the WikiLeaks portrayal, I can say that there was no deliberate shooting at known unarmed civilians by US forces. PERIOD. Those that did the shooting had been cleared by higher authority to engage, and that higher authority made its decision based on information provided by troops on the ground and in real time.

Mistakes happen.

If you are running around in a combat zone with nothing that distinguishes you from the combatants, carrying equipment that could easily be mistaken for weaponry (cameras with telephoto lenses), you are playing with fire.

   Well said.

[~UN_$ung~]

With 2 children in the van as well.

dont you understand ANYTHING about insurgent warfare.....that is the type of war the muslim extremists decided to carry out.  its not like it used to be where two sides wore their different uniforms, and enemy combatants were easily discernible.

these combatants blend in with the public,  and their families and communities....... though they miight not be planting IED's or firing ak-47  themselves, they equip, hide, and assist these insurgents.  a guy might be a mechanic during the day, then go out an plant explosives during the night

this is the type of war they wanted to fight, and in many cases they try to use our own honor against us, and purposely have their children with them, or purposely carry out attacks from mosques......because idiots like you buy it hook line and sinker



and as far as those people being innocent............

[Kwon]

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=326590

[EL Mariachi]

dont you understand ANYTHING about insurgent warfare.....that is the type of war the muslim extremists decided to carry out.  its not like it used to be where two sides wore their different uniforms, and enemy combatants were easily discernible.

these combatants blend in with the public,  and their families and communities....... though they miight not be planting IED's or firing ak-47  themselves, they equip, hide, and assist these insurgents.  a guy might be a mechanic during the day, then go out an plant explosives during the night

this is the type of war they wanted to fight, and in many cases they try to use our own honor against us, and purposely have their children with them, or purposely carry out attacks from mosques......because idiots like you buy it hook line and sinker



and as far as those people being innocent............

what do those people or irak got to do with 9/11 dipshit

[~UN_$ung~]

what do those people or irak got to do with 9/11 dipshit

i didnt mention anything about 911 fuckstick, learn how to read

[chaos]

Still more not caring from chaos.

[EL Mariachi]

i didnt mention anything about 911 fuckstick, learn how to read

wow, i thaught it was just a myth what they say about you people

you say they re terrorists so they can die, how did war on terror begin, after9/11 what other terror attacks were there? come on you re not that dumb

[honest]

What if they took another look to be sure and in the time that it took to perform that second look, the insurgents opened fire, and it was you lying there dead, the shit is real, you dont die and lose a few points and press restart on the PS3 your gone. I don't agree with the war for Oil and what happened is a tragedy, a tragedy of war, but I would  have to say, I would have done the same, no way I'm going to wait in a combat zone, you wait you die. My deepest sympathy to the families of the deceased

[SaltShaker]

that is not some "random" van full of good Samaritans...those are fellow combatants attempting to get their wounded out  

what happened to ROI ?

thats like shooting an unarmed medic cuz he's " healing the enemy". ROI sweetheart, ROI

[noworries]

With 2 children in the van as well.

It sounds bad but those people over there use families and children as shields.  They know we have some compassion and really don't want to kill families or children and they use them when they can.  But in reality these kids are helping kill our soldiers.  If not now by hiding bombs they will later on grow up to kill our soldiers.  So if children just happen to be killed during something like this then it is too bad.  I truly believe we should go in there and just fuck them all.  If you are on our side then you better get your ass in gear and cross the line.  Everyone else, target practice

[JOHN MATRIX]

it really is, sounds like a couple of kids playing halo

that is literally what the future of warfare is going to be, a nerd sitting at a desk with a screen pushing buttons and controlling real life death machines in real life warfare. so in a way, the best warriors of the future will be...the most skilled video game nerds.

[The Showstoppa]

Bravo Zulu to the troops.  Taking care of current and future terrorists all in one swift move.