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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #200 on: April 10, 2010, 07:14:59 AM »
As you know Shawn didn't much compete at those 10k shows and for me all that matters is Olympia. If we're using your logic I could say that Darrem Charles is more successful than Shawn was.

Shawn and Nasser faced each other 8 times at the O and Shawn won five of them.

you cant count 1996 because nasser was disqualified ;D

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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #201 on: April 10, 2010, 07:17:54 AM »
so according to you shawn ray or paul dillet were unsuccessful bbs!!.. ::)

It depends on the context you're talking about if you mean contests winners NO they weren't

if we're talking about popularity and consistency then sure

people enter contests to win NOT to lose

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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #202 on: April 10, 2010, 07:18:20 AM »
that is correct...my arms are better than Nasser's...Thanks sherief  :D

Thats going a little far. They are definitely better than Yates' though...

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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #203 on: April 10, 2010, 07:19:05 AM »
you cant count 1996 because nasser was disqualified ;D

Nasser counts 1996  ;)

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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #204 on: April 10, 2010, 07:21:32 AM »
Nasser counts 1996  ;)
Why was he disqualified?

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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #205 on: April 10, 2010, 07:24:06 AM »
Why was he disqualified?

Because he was stupid

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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #206 on: April 10, 2010, 07:26:17 AM »
It depends on the context you're talking about if you mean contests winners NO they weren't

if we're talking about popularity and consistency then sure

people enter contests to win NOT to lose

so according to you mr. genus no one should enter mr. olympia 2010 except jay, kai, & phil who have chances with the sandow!!.. :-X ::)

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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #207 on: April 10, 2010, 07:29:51 AM »
so according to you mr. genus no one should enter mr. olympia 2010 except jay, kai, & phil who have chances with the sandow!!.. :-X ::)

No some guys know they can't win ( Nasser couldn't admit this to himself ) and just the experience of being there is a life long goal achieved

There are some guys in the upper echelon who can win it and do win it many times and many pro shows as well , Nasser wasn't one of these guys even though is dumb fans like to act like he was

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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #208 on: April 10, 2010, 07:30:43 AM »
Thats going a little far. They are definitely better than Yates' though...

gronk arms are better than dorian's left arm in 1997 only..

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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #209 on: April 10, 2010, 07:36:41 AM »
No some guys know they can't win ( Nasser couldn't admit this to himself ) and just the experience of being there is a life long goal achieved

There are some guys in the upper echelon who can win it and do win it many times and many pro shows as well , Nasser wasn't one of these guys even though is dumb fans like to act like he was

nasser was always a fighter, he was always saying he would enter any contest only to win and he said many times that he didnt think dorian was unbeatable.. then he said the same about ronnie.. he was not like flex who said before the olympua 96 the contest was for 2nd place!!.. nasser words were not wrong and it's not his fault the judges didnt give him what he deserved!!..

and by the way why did you find it funny in a previous post when i said that nasser was the crowd favorite in mid 90s??.. this was a fact and everybody knows it!!..

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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #210 on: April 10, 2010, 07:42:00 AM »
nasser was always a fighter, he was always saying he would enter any contest only to win and he said many times that he didnt think dorian was unbeatable.. then he said the same about ronnie.. he was not like flex who said before the olympua 96 the contest was for 2nd place!!.. nasser words were not wrong and it's not his fault the judges didnt give him what he deserved!!..

and by the way why did you find it funny in a previous post when i said that nasser was the crowd favorite in mid 90s??.. this was a fact and everybody knows it!!..

Nasser was saying Dorian wasn't unbeatable because he believed he could beat him and turns out he couldn't , history proved him wrong

and I wholeheartedly agree Nasser was probably the most popular bodybuilder of the 1990s doesn't mean much , it's not a popularity contest , it's a physique contest

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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #211 on: April 10, 2010, 07:50:59 AM »
Nasser was saying Dorian wasn't unbeatable because he believed he could beat him and turns out he couldn't , history proved him wrong

and I wholeheartedly agree Nasser was probably the most popular bodybuilder of the 1990s doesn't mean much , it's not a popularity contest , it's a physique contest

so according to you  the most popular bb of  the 90s was unsuccessful!!.. your name must be mr. contradiction :-X

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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #212 on: April 10, 2010, 07:56:33 AM »
nasser was always a fighter, he was always saying he would enter any contest only to win and he said many times that he didnt think dorian was unbeatable.. then he said the same about ronnie.. he was not like flex who said before the olympua 96 the contest was for 2nd place!!.. nasser words were not wrong and it's not his fault the judges didnt give him what he deserved!!..

and by the way why did you find it funny in a previous post when i said that nasser was the crowd favorite in mid 90s??.. this was a fact and everybody knows it!!..

You might be mistaken Shabalabdingdong..... What you think was applause for Nasser was actually laughter. I remember back in 98 at the "O"  Wayne Demilia actually had to ask the audience to stop laughing every time Nasser hit a "back" (lol) shot.

I think the ridiculous difference between Ronnie's Back and Nasser's just made people laugh. I'm not making this up.

Even my GF at the time, who didn't know BBing.... said this..."that guy looks really big from the front but he looks fat from the back, the other guys backs look like their fronts...all muscley'

I'm obviously joking in the first part of my post but those were her exact words

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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #213 on: April 10, 2010, 08:00:37 AM »
so according to you  the most popular bb of  the 90s was unsuccessful!!.. your name must be mr. contradiction :-X

no contradiction and you know , you're looking to speak for me which is how you came to the faulty position in your unfunny pic

yes Nasser succeeded at being popular however that didn't shit for him when it came to winning contests and did you miss the part where I said he was pretty successful at making good money as a pro? it depends on the context , if we're talking about being a success at entering and winning pro shows than NO he wasn't very successful at that and you can't argue facts

Team Nasser touts him as something he's not , much better than he actually was.


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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #214 on: April 10, 2010, 08:04:53 AM »
You might be mistaken Shabalabdingdong..... What you think was applause for Nasser was actually laughter. I remember back in 98 at the "O"  Wayne Demilia actually had to ask the audience to stop laughing every time Nasser hit a "back" (lol) shot.

I think the ridiculous difference between Ronnie's Back and Nasser's just made people laugh. I'm not making this up.

Even my GF at the time, who didn't know BBing.... said this..."that guy looks really big from the front but he looks fat from the back, the other guys backs look like their fronts...all muscley'

I'm obviously joking in the first part of my post but those were her exact words

was your GF at that time accepting to take pics of you or like the current one she wasn't?..

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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #215 on: April 10, 2010, 08:09:09 AM »
no contradiction and you know , you're looking to speak for me which is how you came to the faulty position in your unfunny pic

yes Nasser succeeded at being popular however that didn't shit for him when it came to winning contests and did you miss the part where I said he was pretty successful at making good money as a pro? it depends on the context , if we're talking about being a success at entering and winning pro shows than NO he wasn't very successful at that and you can't argue facts

Team Nasser touts him as something he's not , much better than he actually was.



if you were a judge at mr. olympia 1997 who was going to be your choice to win the show??.. answer honestly plz and try to put dorian's cok out of your mouth till you answer this then return it back..

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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #216 on: April 10, 2010, 08:16:06 AM »
if you were a judge at mr. olympia 1997 who was going to be your choice to win the show??.. answer honestly plz and try to put dorian's cok out of your mouth till you answer this then return it back..

I would have to be at that show to make an honest opinion , I know from pics and video , Dorian clearly lost the standing relaxed from the front , front double biceps , the ab-thigh is close you could make a case for either , front latspread I think Dorian beats him , from the sides I think Dorian wins and from the back forget it . and I'm not the one with a Facebook for a competitive bodybuilder so when you're making gay references you should think twice  :-X

Nasser Mr Olympia from the front  :-\

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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #217 on: April 10, 2010, 08:24:40 AM »
I would have to be at that show to make an honest opinion , I know from pics and video , Dorian clearly lost the standing relaxed from the front , front double biceps , the ab-thigh is close you could make a case for either , front latspread I think Dorian beats him , from the sides I think Dorian wins and from the back forget it . and I'm not the one with a Facebook for a competitive bodybuilder so when you're making gay references you should think twice  :-X

Nasser Mr Olympia from the front  :-\

and what about relaxed side poses??.. to remind you dorian had no left arm and it was sure clear when he showed his left relaxed side pose!!..

ok i will simplify my question but again plz keep yates's cok out of your mouth for one more minute till you answer me.. if you must choose a winner of mr. olympia 97 after seeing all the pics and videos of the show, who will be your choice??.. just name a person with no more details..

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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #218 on: April 10, 2010, 08:27:24 AM »
and what about relaxed side poses??.. to remind you dorian had no left arm and it was sure clear when he showed his left relaxed side pose!!..

ok i will simplify my question but again plz keep yates's cok out of your mouth for one more minute till you answer me.. if you must choose a winner of mr. olympia 97 after seeing all the pics and videos of the show, who will be your choice??.. just name a person with no more details..

Okay so he also lost the left 1/4 turn

and like I've said many times before lets give Nasser 1997 what did he accomplish? beating a career worse Dorian lol keep it , Dorian at his best tramples Nasser so you still get no where Mr Moron  ;)

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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #219 on: April 10, 2010, 08:32:14 AM »
Okay so he also lost the left 1/4 turn

and like I've said many times before lets give Nasser 1997 what did he accomplish? beating a career worse Dorian lol keep it , Dorian at his best tramples Nasser so you still get no where Mr Moron  ;)

no man it's not about dorian, it's about the olympia.. this unfair decision prevented nasser from being mr. olympia, same can be same about mr. olympia 2007 and victor..

but again you are contradicting yourself because you always say shit about the physique of the guy who you agree should have won the olympia in the most competitive time!!..

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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #220 on: April 10, 2010, 08:36:35 AM »
no man it's not about dorian, it's about the olympia.. this unfair decision prevented nasser from being mr. olympia, same can be same about mr. olympia 2007 and victor..

but again you are contradicting yourself because you always say shit about the physique of the guy who you agree should have won the olympia in the most competitive time!!..

You're not a judge , you didn't and still don't know how contests are judged. your opinion is shit you wouldn't know if it was fair or unfair because you don't even know how the game is played

if 1997 was unfair any contest Nasser won was unfair as well 

Nasser won the 1997 Mr Olympia from the front to bad the judges didn't stop there  ;)


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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #221 on: April 10, 2010, 08:41:17 AM »
You're not a judge , you didn't and still don't know how contests are judged. your opinion is shit you wouldn't know if it was fair or unfair because you don't even know how the game is played

if 1997 was unfair any contest Nasser won was unfair as well 

Nasser won the 1997 Mr Olympia from the front to bad the judges didn't stop there  ;)



you yourself agree that nasser deserved to win the olympia in 1997!!.. so according to you too it was unfair decision.. what has changed your opinion?!!.. has you returned the cok back in your mouth?..

i am not a fan of victor martinez but i see he deserved to win in 2007 and i am a big fan of nasser and i see he didnt deserve to win in 1995 so i am really saying what i see amd not what i like to see!!..

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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #222 on: April 10, 2010, 08:45:11 AM »
you yourself agree that nasser deserved to win the olympia in 1997!!.. so according to you too it was unfair decision.. what has changed your opinion?!!.. has you returned the cok back in your mouth?..

i am not a fan of victor martinez but i see he deserved to win in 2007 and i am a big fan of nasser and i see he didnt deserve to win in 1995 so i am really saying what i see amd not what i like to see!!..

stop speaking for me , I never said he deserved to win , he won a majority of the front shots and maybe the 1/4 turn to the left he LOST all others , therefore he didn't beat Dorian

if you think the judges are wrong in 1997 then they were also wrong at every contest Nasser won , you can't have it two ways , the contests are unfair when you disagree with the outcome but when you do then the judges are correct


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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #223 on: April 10, 2010, 09:50:26 AM »
1995 Houston Pro 1st unfair
1995 Night of Champions 1st unfair
1996 Grand Prix Czech 1st unfair
1996 Grand Prix Switzerland 1st unfair
1996 Grand Prix Russia 1st unfair
1999 Arnold Classic 1st unfair


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Re: AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..
« Reply #224 on: April 10, 2010, 10:02:20 AM »
stop speaking for me , I never said he deserved to win , he won a majority of the front shots and maybe the 1/4 turn to the left he LOST all others , therefore he didn't beat Dorian

if you think the judges are wrong in 1997 then they were also wrong at every contest Nasser won , you can't have it two ways , the contests are unfair when you disagree with the outcome but when you do then the judges are correct



so according to you all bb contests results are fair ::).. so to see franco with no legs and clear gyno winning the olympia it's fair.. and to see dorian with a deformed arm and a pregnant belly winning the olympia it's fair!!..