AC 1997 (Nasser's Routine + Finals)!!..

[Sherief Shalaby]

Dorian wins

dorian's quads were flat and soft in this year.. nasser's were clearly bigger, harder and more detailed.. also look at how nasser's chest was thicker??.. and how his arms were much bigger?!..

here is another shot from the same show!!..

[Karpaasi]

Sherief -  That's a very tough comparision right there between those two so I really couldn't decide(I'm not talking about the pic but the Olympia as a whole). Who should've won the 1997 Olympia? My first impression was when I saw the footage like 8 years ago that Nasser was clear winner but over the years since my knowledge has increased Ï couldn't decide which one should've won. That is something that always splits opinions and people have good arguments both ways. I think it's "easier" to say Nasser was better because he had no torn muscles but there are so many other factors to include that makes the decision making hard for me.

As you said Nasser did improve his posing. I would presume that Nasser did everything that he could to improve his stage presence. He certainly had the physique but he just wasn't natural performer like the Levrone, Wheeler and Ray.

[kiwiol]

Dorian is destroying Noisy Oil SoiledManty right thurr

[NarcissisticDeity]

dorian's quads were flat and soft in this year.. nasser's were clearly bigger, harder and more detailed.. also look at how nasser's chest was thicker??.. and how his arms were much bigger?!..

here is another shot from the same show!!..

They were neither flat or soft , you're wrong in fact they were much bigger than 1996 when they really were flat ! you're only looking at the parts you think he wins in NOT how contests are judged kid

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian is destroying Noisy Oil SoiledManty right thurr

I think he's clearly beating Nasser in this shot. but Mr Moron see what he wants  

[Sherief Shalaby]

Sherief -  That's a very tough comparision right there between those two so I really couldn't decide(I'm not talking about the pic but the Olympia as a whole). Who should've won the 1997 Olympia? My first impression was when I saw the footage like 8 years ago that Nasser was clear winner but over the years since my knowledge has increased Ï couldn't decide which one should've won. That is something that always splits opinions and people have good arguments both ways. I think it's "easier" to say Nasser was better because he had no torn muscles but there are so many other factors to include that makes the decision making hard for me.

As you said Nasser did improve his posing. I would presume that Nasser did everything that he could to improve his stage presence. He certainly had the physique but he just wasn't natural performer like the Levrone, Wheeler and Ray.

it was not only his one whole missing arm but also the lack of symmetry between his right and his left and the over all lack of symmetry between his different parts with his back overpowering the rest of his upper body and his calves overpowering his upper legs!!.. in all poses dorian's arms appeared small for his wide torso and his chest looked flat.. dont forget he didnt train his upper body for 3 weeks before the contest!!..

dorian was a fighter to compete after his severe injury but this doesnt mean to make him beat other better guys!!.. the strange thing that tells you how "blind" those judges were is that none of them noticed dorian's new injury during  the show!!.. they knew about it just like us later when dorian narrated the details!!..

[Sherief Shalaby]

Dorian is destroying Noisy Oil SoiledManty right thurr

tell me how??..

may be at his best he was better than nasser at his best in this pose but not in 1997!!..

[Shockwave]

tell me how??..

may be at his best he was better than nasser at his best in this pose but not in 1997!!..

Nassers musculature looks soft compared to Dorians in those photos.
Im still gonna give it to Dorian, based on better conditioning, but Dorian was really starting to go downhill in 97.
If Nasser had any semblence of a back Id say Nasser should have won that show.

[Sherief Shalaby]

Nassers musculature looks soft compared to Dorians in those photos.
Im still gonna give it to Dorian, based on better conditioning, but Dorian was really starting to go downhill in 97.
If Nasser had any semblence of a back Id say Nasser should have won that show.

actually if nasser's back was the same level of cormier's for example he would have won all the contests he ever entered starting from 1995 including mr. olympia 95!!..

[Parker]

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Congrats again, you showed that Dillet had better abs...serratus, intercorsals all present and looking great. All the greats that were known for great abs had the serratus and inters...Shawn, Flex, Levrone, Haney, Lebrada, Zane, Cormier, Claimonte, Gurley, Nubret

Nasser had a better upper back than Dillet, he was all traps and delts, from there on down he had just a mass of muscle going down. He severely lacked detail. And Nasser had a better, way better lat spread. But both their back detail sucked.

[Shockwave]

actually if nasser's back was the same level of cormier's for example he would have won all the contests he ever entered starting from 1995 including mr. olympia 95!!..

Lol. Not even close, but keep dreaming.

[NarcissisticDeity]

actually if nasser's back was the same level of cormier's for example he would have won all the contests he ever entered starting from 1995 including mr. olympia 95!!..

lmfao none of your pictures are funny but this post is 

[Flexb]

Epic Flex makin nasser look a fool 

[kiwiol]

tell me how??..

Dorian looks drier, his delts are more capped out, his arm-delt tie ins are better, his back pops out more, better taper etc. Pretty much all the stuff ND has mentioned heaps of times before. And I'm talking about that one pic, so don't worry about posting a whole bunch of other pics to try and disprove any of that - not necessary at all.

That aside, I mainly made that post cause I was looking for an excuse to insert my latest Nasser nickname in there somewhere

[Palpatine Q]

actually if nasser's back was the same level of cormier's for example he would have won all the contests he ever entered starting from 1995 including mr. olympia 95!!..

If my grandmother had balls...she'd be my grandfather.

he still only had mediocre muscle quality on his whole body, his back was just that much worse....it was disgusting to look at

[Mr Nobody]

If my grandmother had balls...she'd be my grandfather.

he still only had mediocre muscle quality on his whole body, his back was just that much worse....it was disgusting to look at

Groink, when is your book slated for delivery with complete details on Nasser and the Team? I know you gathering material on a daily basis from these posts.

[Palpatine Q]

Groink, when is your book slated for delivery with complete details on Nasser and the Team? I know you gathering material on a daily basis from these posts.

Yes...I am in negotiations with various publishers, but Nasser has been trying to get an injunction to stop my book from coming out, because he know once mine comes out no one will even bother to read his. It's a very tricky situation and i can't say much  

I will also have EXCLUSIVE photos of me punching Nasser in the face, throwing him down a flight of stairs and putting firecrackers up his nose and lighting them

[Mr Nobody]

Yes...I am in negotiations with various publishers, but Nasser has been trying to get an injunction to stop my book from coming out, because he know once mine comes out no one will even bother to read his. It's a very tricky situation and i can't say much  

I will also have EXCLUSIVE photos of me punching Nasser in the face, throwing him down a flight of stairs and putting firecrackers up his nose and lighting them

[Sherief Shalaby]

Dorian looks drier, his delts are more capped out, his arm-delt tie ins are better, his back pops out more, better taper etc. Pretty much all the stuff ND has mentioned heaps of times before. And I'm talking about that one pic, so don't worry about posting a whole bunch of other pics to try and disprove any of that - not necessary at all.

That aside, I mainly made that post cause I was looking for an excuse to insert my latest Nasser nickname in there somewhere

so you noticed that dorian was drier but didnt notice how his arms looked very small for his torso and how his chest looked flat and relatively small.. and yes his delts were more capped (in this pose) but again they were relatively small.. and his quads were as detailed as nasser's back!!..

before saying your opinion you must know first how contests are judged

[Sherief Shalaby]

lmfao none of your pictures are funny but this post is 

but you said before that some of my pics were funny!!.. why are you changing your words now?!.. oh ya i forgot, this is typical you like the all nonsense you had said then changed your words when i kept underlining your assholness

[Sherief Shalaby]

If my grandmother had balls...she'd be my grandfather.

he still only had mediocre muscle quality on his whole body, his back was just that much worse....it was disgusting to look at

if you didnt have a droopy chest you would have posted more decent topless pics

[Sherief Shalaby]

Yes...I am in negotiations with various publishers, but Nasser has been trying to get an injunction to stop my book from coming out, because he know once mine comes out no one will even bother to read his. It's a very tricky situation and i can't say much  

I will also have EXCLUSIVE photos of me punching Nasser in the face, throwing him down a flight of stairs and putting firecrackers up his nose and lighting them

 

how old are you again??..

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

but you said before that some of my pics were funny!!.. why are you changing your words now?!.. oh ya i forgot, this is typical you like the all nonsense you had said then changed your words when i kept underlining your assholness

meltdown 

[Sherief Shalaby]

meltdown 

 

[Palpatine Q]

if you didnt have a droopy chest you would have posted more decent topless pics

speaking if which...what ever happened to those new abdominal pics you were gonna post "tomorrow" about a MONTH ago ?

Still not lean enough? 

It's OK sherif...we all get old.  imagine what you will look like when you are my age