krav maga owns karate.

[Kwon]

And for the Batman-Story: I hate to break it too you, but Batman is a Comic book character. He's a billionaire with unlimited money, he dresses up at night in a costume, has a "Batmobile", a "Batwing"-fighter plane sort of thing and has his headquarters in a big cave under his mansion.... 
Sure if i start Krav Maga i will be just like Batman in no time. 

Proof?

[DK II]

Proof?

Stick a tv camera up your butt, the proof will be in there. 

[buffdnet]

A couple of mates that I went to university with are deadly serious about becoming steely eyed dealers of Israeli based death. Before that it was training for a triathlon and next it will probably be crossfit.

Anything to block out the fact that they sit behind a desk all day.

good stuff right there. switch supps as quick too. salesmans dream

[Captain Equipoise]

LOL, some people are beyond delusional.. I've done martial arts for 18 years, I'll take a gun over a gi anytime

half these idiots that try these self defense techniques end up on the evening news and in the coroner's with gunshot wounds, I'll stick to my glock thank you.

[DK II]

LOL, some people are beyond delusional.. I've done martial arts for 18 years, I'll take a gun over a gi anytime

half these idiots that try these self defense techniques end up on the evening news and in the coroner's with gunshot wounds, I'll stick to my glock thank you.

And even if you cannot carry a gun with you all the time, if you get into a fight with someone, people are either:

A) Mr Asshole that has been into fights every other day of his life. He doesn't care a bit about your sorry ass, so he will use weapons, bottles or anything within reach. No Gym-Martial-Artist without real fight experience will stand against someone that hast street-fighting experience in a street fight.

B) Mr Wanna-be, who has done Fung-Shoo-Jitsu for 120 years and has the 30th black belt degree and a certificate with the malayo-chinese master's autograph on his wall. He will stand through three blows, then mumble a low "that's not in the book!" and get knocked out.

[El Diablo Blanco]

And even if you cannot carry a gun with you all the time, if you get into a fight with someone, people are either:

A) Mr Asshole that has been into fights every other day of his life. He doesn't care a bit about your sorry ass, so he will use weapons, bottles or anything within reach. No Gym-Martial-Artist without real fight experience will stand against someone that hast street-fighting experience in a street fight.

B) Mr Wanna-be, who has done Fung-Shoo-Jitsu for 120 years and has the 30th black belt degree and a certificate with the malayo-chinese master's autograph on his wall. He will stand through three blows, then mumble a low "that's not in the book!" and get knocked out.

Bingo.  Martial arts is choreographed fighting.  People talk about BJJ but that is bullshit, because what are you going to do?  Put a guy into a body lock on the ground during a street fight?  Then what?  his buddy will stomp on you while you're laying there in a crab hold.  It's amazing how many MMA guys I see get fucked up at bars and clubs by normal looking dudes that have a chip on their shoulder.  I remember one little dude mouthing off about his MMA skills and threatening some dude in a bar and this dude's friend just whacks the mma fool right in the head with a beer bottle knocking him out.  That MMA goon probably has spent thousands of dollars in training, gear, scivation supps, Tapout shirts and all it took was a 10 cent empty bottle of beer to knock him out.  fucking pathetic.

[DK II]

Bingo.  Martial arts is choreographed fighting.  People talk about BJJ but that is bullshit, because what are you going to do?  Put a guy into a body lock on the ground during a street fight?  Then what?  his buddy will stomp on you while you're laying there in a crab hold.  It's amazing how many MMA guys I see get fucked up at bars and clubs by normal looking dudes that have a chip on their shoulder.  I remember one little dude mouthing off about his MMA skills and threatening some dude in a bar and this dude's friend just whacks the mma fool right in the head with a beer bottle knocking him out.  That MMA goon probably has spent thousands of dollars in training, gear, scivation supps, Tapout shirts and all it took was a 10 cent empty bottle of beer to knock him out.  fucking pathetic.

spot on.

The other thing is that no matter how hardcore you are in the gym, i have never seen a Gym-Martial-Artist that could really seriously hurt someone in a real fight on purpose, and i think they are really rare.

That means, now what, you have the other guy in an arm lock, then you wait for him to tapout?? The martial artist will not break the arm, he simply is not trained to do that. Maybe he will if it's a really serious life-or-death-situation, but in the normal bar fight he will be afraid of the consequences.
The street fighter doesn't give a shit if you lose your eye-sight because of a broken bottle in your face.

[Captain Equipoise]

Bingo.  Martial arts is choreographed fighting.  People talk about BJJ but that is bullshit, because what are you going to do?  Put a guy into a body lock on the ground during a street fight?  Then what?  his buddy will stomp on you while you're laying there in a crab hold.  It's amazing how many MMA guys I see get fucked up at bars and clubs by normal looking dudes that have a chip on their shoulder.  I remember one little dude mouthing off about his MMA skills and threatening some dude in a bar and this dude's friend just whacks the mma fool right in the head with a beer bottle knocking him out.  That MMA goon probably has spent thousands of dollars in training, gear, scivation supps, Tapout shirts and all it took was a 10 cent empty bottle of beer to knock him out.  fucking pathetic.

I agree completely, I did 3 years of karate (first martial art I took) when I was 12 and it's great for tournaments and point fighting (hell I'll even go as far as it's good for reflexes, flexibility and discipline) but it's close to useless when in a real streetfight, I also did a few months of military type training that's designed for special forces like krav maga and systema which I found much more effective then sport type martial arts like karate, kung fu, tae kwon do aikido, etc.   after 18 years I believe I got the most out of systema, muay thai, boxing and krav maga but in an armed situation I would still just give up my wallet, unless I was 1000% sure that I had a chance or the guy was really close and not paying attention, otherwise screw it.

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

 Stupid people.
 
1- Between a gun and a gi...of course if you have a gun you will win.
2- Most of the time you don't carry a gun... do you? how are you going to defend yourself?
3- Nobody its looking for a fight. but sh*t happens.
4- Self defense techniques are most used for anti terror, war that kind of stuff.kind situation that you know that the other guy its going to kill you. I believe that is better to be trained and know how to react to the situation.
5- Army,FBI and the police they must be really dumb to teach self defense.
6- By the way donkeykong please answer my question.
7- And mon of steele you should go to Brazil.

 Do you carry a gun 24/7 365 days a year?
 Can you carry a gun 24/7 365 days a year?

 Ps: Anti terror and war...that's not like being robed in the streets, there's a huge difference.

[JOHN MATRIX]

And even if you cannot carry a gun with you all the time, if you get into a fight with someone, people are either:

A) Mr Asshole that has been into fights every other day of his life. He doesn't care a bit about your sorry ass, so he will use weapons, bottles or anything within reach. No Gym-Martial-Artist without real fight experience will stand against someone that hast street-fighting experience in a street fight.

B) Mr Wanna-be, who has done Fung-Shoo-Jitsu for 120 years and has the 30th black belt degree and a certificate with the malayo-chinese master's autograph on his wall. He will stand through three blows, then mumble a low "that's not in the book!" and get knocked out.

Rofl!

[JOHN MATRIX]

Bingo.  Martial arts is choreographed fighting.  People talk about BJJ but that is bullshit, because what are you going to do?  Put a guy into a body lock on the ground during a street fight?  Then what?  his buddy will stomp on you while you're laying there in a crab hold.  It's amazing how many MMA guys I see get fucked up at bars and clubs by normal looking dudes that have a chip on their shoulder.  I remember one little dude mouthing off about his MMA skills and threatening some dude in a bar and this dude's friend just whacks the mma fool right in the head with a beer bottle knocking him out.  That MMA goon probably has spent thousands of dollars in training, gear, scivation supps, Tapout shirts and all it took was a 10 cent empty bottle of beer to knock him out.  fucking pathetic.

even more ROFL!!!

[JOHN MATRIX]

LOL, some people are beyond delusional.. I've done martial arts for 18 years, I'll take a gun over a gi anytime

half these idiots that try these self defense techniques end up on the evening news and in the coroner's with gunshot wounds, I'll stick to my glock thank you.

LMAO this is so true. i realize no amount of working out/martial arts is going to make me a match for a 240lb, coldblooded hardened street brawler, thats why guns were invented. if i cant shoot them with a gun, then im going to just run away, and i can run pretty fast. better than getting killed or having to deal with court legal bullshit.

[SamoanIrishman]

And even if you cannot carry a gun with you all the time, if you get into a fight with someone, people are either:

A) Mr Asshole that has been into fights every other day of his life. He doesn't care a bit about your sorry ass, so he will use weapons, bottles or anything within reach. No Gym-Martial-Artist without real fight experience will stand against someone that hast street-fighting experience in a street fight.

B) Mr Wanna-be, who has done Fung-Shoo-Jitsu for 120 years and has the 30th black belt degree and a certificate with the malayo-chinese master's autograph on his wall. He will stand through three blows, then mumble a low "that's not in the book!" and get knocked out.

So f-ing true!!! I love the guys who talk shit and you tell them to shut it just to have them reply "try it tough guy, I'm a (enter number here) degree blackbelt in (enter martial fart here)" and before he can even finish the sentence pop him right in the forehead and watch his ass crumble to the ground unconscience.

Where I come from there is no "locks"..you keep swinging till they stop moving or someone pulls you off them..period. Hence why its so important to make sure you are acting like self defense cause one you start don't stop till you're made to.

Key to survival in reallity is knowing when NOT to fight. I don't care if you are MMA expert, if there are 3 douches trying to start a fight back down...if someone with a gun / knife trying to rob you give them your shit...at least till the turn to run then pull your .40, yell stop or I'll shoot and hope he turns just enough that you can double tap him center mass....but then again is that even realistic?

Good decisions will secure your survival the majority of the time.

[DK II]

So f-ing true!!! I love the guys who talk shit and you tell them to shut it just to have them reply "try it tough guy, I'm a (enter number here) degree blackbelt in (enter martial fart here)" and before he can even finish the sentence pop him right in the forehead and watch his ass crumble to the ground unconscience.

LOL!!

These people spend 35 years in a DOJO without ever getting really punched or punching someone even one time in their whole lives!

[drkaje]

LOL!!

These people spend 35 years in a DOJO without ever getting really punched or punching someone even one time in their whole lives!

People shouldn't waste time or money on schools with no contact.

[SamoanIrishman]

People shouldn't waste time or money on schools with no contact.

Yep..a year in a REAL boxing gym sparing full contact will beat the average 10yrs of martial "arts" guy

[DK II]

Yep..a year in a REAL boxing gym sparing full contact will beat the average 10yrs of martial "arts" guy

True, but even most "full contact" martial artists cannot survive a street fight.

"full contact" in the ring is very different from full contact with the purpose to really destroy someone.

At least a boxer or any full contact martial artist should be able to take a few shots, but even he will have a lot of problems with someone fighting dirty and brutal.

[drkaje]

True, but even most "full contact" martial artists cannot survive a street fight.

"full contact" in the ring is very different from full contact with the purpose to really destroy someone.

At least a boxer or any full contact martial artist should be able to take a few shots, but even he will have a lot of problems with someone fighting dirty and brutal.

I just believe guys who train with contact fear getting hit less. Less fear improves your chances of survival in life and death situations. That's just one man's opinion.

[SamoanIrishman]

Agreed. My point was from a realistic point if you had twin expert street brawlers one fighting a boxer and another a martial artist, the boxer would more than likely survive longer and get some good shots in.

The average joe that you would get into a fight with isn't an "expert" street brawler but more than likely some douche that had too much to drink and is now feeling "brave" in front of his boys / girlfriend.

Chances of knocking his ass out with a round house kick to the head in close quarter fighting vs. a barage of punches are slim to none.

If I was going to fight more than one guy (and I have on several occations as a bouncer) sorry to say I don't believe in a "fair fight" or being a "gentleman". If I felt I was in imminent danger or was assulted..I'm picking up a stool, bottle and will hit you in the throat, poke in the eye and smash your sack. You and your buddys may get some shots in...maybe even give me a good ass whooping, but I'm gonna get mine in I PROMISE.

If your going to fight like a real man, expect to hurt as well. Only in movies can you beat someone up your size and strength and walk away unharmed.

Fierceness and endurance will win that fight in the end.

[DK II]

Agreed. My point was from a realistic point if you had twin expert street brawlers one fighting a boxer and another a martial artist, the boxer would more than likely survive longer and get some good shots in.

The average joe that you would get into a fight with isn't an "expert" street brawler but more than likely some douche that had too much to drink and is now feeling "brave" in front of his boys / girlfriend.

Chances of knocking his ass out with a round house kick to the head in close quarter fighting vs. a barage of punches are slim to none.

If I was going to fight more than one guy (and I have on several occations as a bouncer) sorry to say I don't believe in a "fair fight" or being a "gentleman". If I felt I was in imminent danger or was assulted..I'm picking up a stool, bottle and will hit you in the throat, poke in the eye and smash your sack. You and your buddys may get some shots in...maybe even give me a good ass whooping, but I'm gonna get mine in I PROMISE.

If your going to fight like a real man, expect to hurt as well. Only in movies can you beat someone up your size and strength and walk away unharmed.

Fierceness and endurance will win that fight in the end.

Good post, and so much to "krav maga anti terror fighting''-bullshit.

[drkaje]

Good post, and so much to "krav maga anti terror fighting''-bullshit.

Krav Maga goes for high percentage targets so it shouldn't be dismissed out of hand.

[The Showstoppa]

Krav Maga goes for high percentage targets so it shouldn't be dismissed out of hand.

I prefer a .45 or a vertical suplex...

[drkaje]

I prefer a .45 or a vertical suplex...

I've been looking for another .45. Might go an HK or a Colt.

[The Showstoppa]

I've been looking for another .45. Might go an HK or a Colt.

i have a thompson .45......really like it.

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

 Since nobody could answer my question... i will presume that, yes you can carry a gun 24/ 7 365 days a year.
 They will carry a gun deep inside their asses.  
 How funny is that a bunch of big guys here, but when the subject is to defend themselves..."Oh i need a gun"
 And a street fighter guy beating a martial arts guy or a MMA guy in the streets?  lol stupid people.
 Come to Brazil let's see how tough you are. oh!!! btw, since you can not bring your gun... lol you're f*cked.

  roflmao.
 
 

 F*ck i love this video.