The Official Certified Personal Trainers ONLY Thread

[pugalist666]

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[buffdnet]

I'm curious however as to why you and Basile follow every post I make???  If that isn't pathetic then what is??

a negro homosexual having unprotected sex and spreading aids??

[WillGrant]

Hope this helps

No way you are 10 %///you are skinny fat..

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Thanks for proving your lack of comprehension and knowledge of who is successful in the industry is about nil with you. And yes, they do have the authority to analyze who is a bad trainer from a good trainer as do I. For example, If I asked you or this "hugeripped" clown to put together a strength program or even a basic fitness program for a healthy person, I'd be willing to bet you clowns couldn't put together a sound program if your life depended on it.

No-one has the authority to judge who is a good personal trainer and who isn't....period. 

The most successful personal trainers out there just do their jobs and not worry about what every other trainer does.  If you're not making the money that you think you should be, then you should change your business model

[NCNPC29]

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Wow...just when you think a person couldn't possess a worse physique than Vince this clown comes out of the closet woods. Bro, if you have a Masters then you are the epitome of a wasted education. Your body looks like warm dog shit on a summers evening. It literally looks like you have never touched a weight in your life. Seriously. When it comes to personal training it's like Coach and everyone else says. It's about results. Why on earth would anyone put any faith in someone that looks like absolute garbage? Who cares what your credentials are when you can't even utilize this vast knowledge you supposedly have on your own body?!?!? What worries me most is that this might not be a gimmick and the population of bullshit trainers in the commercial gyms is now +1

[Devon97]

I am unsure if you understand the concept of "irony" since you have already admitted to your academic ignorance but I will go out on a limb and assume that you picked up the comprehension of the abstract noun somewhere in your life (if you need me to reword my response in a more high school graduate level, let me know); it is ironic that someone who lacks any form of credentials besides three "certifications" (i can only guess how many were taken online only) can claim they are more qualified a field that I possess a Master's degree in. Your arrogant attitude toward commercial gyms is unfounded, since you have the exact same pseudo-credentials and blaring lack of education of every other trainer at the local LA Fitness or Bally's. Why should I explain my target clientele to you? Suffice to say that you would not be elligible to interview at my place of work, you lack the academic qualifications.

NewsFlash.

Experts don't "interview" at places of work.... they work for themselves and have people working for them!

BOOOOOOM!

[Devon97]

No-one has the authority to judge who is a good personal trainer and who isn't....period.  The most successful personal trainers out there just do their jobs and not worry about what every other trainer does.  If you're not making the money that you think you should be, then you should change your business model

What about someone who is more experienced and has produced better results over time?

[HugeRipped]

NewsFlash.

Experts don't "interview" at places of work.... they work for themselves and have people working for them!

BOOOOOOM!

What kind of absurd logic is that? There are plenty of experts relative to their field who are still employees of a greater organization. Chief doctors who run departments in cardiology or oncology, for example, still directly work for and report to a hospital administration hierarchy - does this not make them an expert in their field? My point was, that at my place of work, a MAsters degree in a fitness related field is mandatory to even be considered for employment and thus "The Coach" would not even be eligible to interview with us.

[Devon97]

What kind of absurd logic is that? There are plenty of experts relative to their field who are still employees of a greater organization. Chief doctors who run departments in cardiology or oncology, for example, still directly work for and report to a hospital administration hierarchy - does this not make them an expert in their field? My point was, that at my place of work, a MAsters degree in a fitness related field is mandatory to even be considered for employment and thus "The Coach" would not even be eligible to interview with us.

I will take you back to school right now- free of charge.

The REAL Experts DO NOT work for other people. They have people working for them. This is absolute common sense.

The BEST M.D.'s own their own practice!

I am sure the Coach has no interest in working for an agency or instuition for nickles and dimes when he is pulling in GOOD $$ owing and running his own sports performance training biz.

[bodybuilder1234]

I went to a few Sport Sciences modules because I wanted to see what the course was about...
Wasnt really my thing, dont see much relevance on methane being created in the stomach of cows?

Just train hard and eat right, end of

[No Patience]

Thats like saying a Bachelors or a Masters degree "don't mean shit" (to quote your perversion of the english language). In general, I have found that the people who regularly claim that standards of education and qualification do not mean anything are the ones that lack the intellectual or professional competency to obtain said academic certification.

personal certifications don't mean shit

the only reason to have one is credentials when working with clients...they trust
your guidance more

i am certified in WITS...which i would say is one of the more involved certifications....but i still think it was
a waste of my fucking time...i already know how to write programs for people and have been doing so long
before i ever got certified

your credentials are sub par at best, yet you act as if you are a doctor from some very prestigious school

you are a overcompensator, which looking at your avatar, i understand why

[HugeRipped]

The BEST M.D.'s own their own practice!

I am sure the Coach has no interest in working for an agency or instuition for nickles and dimes when he is pulling in GOOD $$ owing and running his own sports performance training biz.

On what factual evidence do you base your statement that the best MD's do not work for hospitals? Please provide patient mortality rates and QOL statistics between the two groups in a given related medical field if you want to be taken seriously.

Based on "The Coach's" complete lack of education and qualifications, one can conclude that he "runs his own business" because he got tired of working at LA Fitness, Bally's or 24 Hour Fitness - since those are the only trainer jobs for which he is qualified. Out of curiousity, why do you feel it is your personal mission to justify his educational shortcomings? I am still amused that when asked if he had a Masters degree he felt the need to tell me that he dropped out within 6 months of graduation, as if that really matters - an obvious sign of regret and shame even after nearly three decades to live with such failure. I wonder if, when applying to work at the local Bally's he tells the hiring manager that he almost got a degree?

personal certifications don't mean shit

the only reason to have one is credentials when working with clients...they trust
your guidance more

i am certified in WITS...which i would say is one of the more involved certifications....but i still think it was
a waste of my fucking time...i already know how to write programs for people and have been doing so long
before i ever got certified

your credentials are sub par at best, yet you act as if you are a doctor from some very prestigious school

you are a overcompensator, which looking at your avatar, i understand why

Are you trying to compare my Master's in Exercise Science to a personal training certificaiton?

[Devon97]

On what factual evidence do you base your statement that the best MD's do not work for hospitals? Please provide patient mortality rates and QOL statistics between the two groups in a given related medical field if you want to be taken seriously.

Based on "The Coach's" complete lack of education and qualifications, one can conclude that he "runs his own business" because he got tired of working at LA Fitness, Bally's or 24 Hour Fitness - since those are the only trainer jobs for which he is qualified. Out of curiousity, why do you feel it is your personal mission to justify his educational shortcomings? I am still amused that when asked if he had a Masters degree he felt the need to tell me that he dropped out within 6 months of graduation, as if that really matters - an obvious sign of regret and shame even after nearly three decades to live with such failure. I wonder if, when applying to work at the local Bally's he tells the hiring manager that he almost got a degree?

Are you trying to compare my Master's in Exercise Science to a personal training certificaiton?

LOL No one in their right mind would work as an employee when they could make more money and play by their own set of rules running their own biz. TO even argue such a thing is outrageous LOL

Who in the hell says " When I grown up I want to work as a sheep for someone else!" ??

Bottom line my small friend, if you were truely an expert you would have private clients paying you and would not have to seek out employment from an institution or agency.

Working for someone else = being someone's bitch!

[Coach is Back!]

On what factual evidence do you base your statement that the best MD's do not work for hospitals? Please provide patient mortality rates and QOL statistics between the two groups in a given related medical field if you want to be taken seriously.

Based on "The Coach's" complete lack of education and qualifications, one can conclude that he "runs his own business" because he got tired of working at LA Fitness, Bally's or 24 Hour Fitness - since those are the only trainer jobs for which he is qualified. Out of curiousity, why do you feel it is your personal mission to justify his educational shortcomings? I am still amused that when asked if he had a Masters degree he felt the need to tell me that he dropped out within 6 months of graduation, as if that really matters - an obvious sign of regret and shame even after nearly three decades to live with such failure. I wonder if, when applying to work at the local Bally's he tells the hiring manager that he almost got a degree?

Are you trying to compare my Master's in Exercise Science to a personal training certificaiton?

Haha, I've never been an employee of any fitness club in my life. And yes, I WILL compare my training knowledge to your "Masters" degree. You don't seem to get that although it's great to obtain your 'Masters" degree, real knowledge doesn't come until years down the road. You really think just because you get a piece of paper that says "I've passed tests" that automatically makes you an expert? Fuck you've got a lot to learn.

Do me a favor, give an example of program you would recommend for an athlete, say a football player. I'll be waiting for your response.

[HugeRipped]

LOL No one in their right mind would work as an employee when they could make more money and play by their own set of rules running their own biz. TO even argue such a thing is outrageous LOL

Who in the hell says " When I grown up I want to work as a sheep for someone else!" ??

Bottom line my small friend, if you were truely an expert you would have private clients paying you and would not have to seek out employment from an institution or agency.

Almost everybody in the world works for somebody else, most adults are able to grasp that concept.

I cant help but notice you failed to reply with mortality rates and QOL stats in reference to your odd claim about more competent MD's owning private practices. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are working on putting together a statistic composite to assist in arguing your point. Since you are now trying argue that owning one's own business generates more revenue on average, please provide the appropriate factual basis (with citations) to support that theory.

To recapitulate: I will take your odd claims seriously once you can provide any factual evidence to back them. Based on the interesting statements you have made this requires mortality rates and patient QOL statistics for doctors working in a private practice vs doctors working directly for a hospital organization. Also, please provide average annual salaries of doctors who run their own private practice vs chief MD's of a given department in a hospital. Try to keep the medical field the same throughout to avoid compounding variables, thanks in advance.

[Natural Man]

nobody needs a "personnal trainer"... all you need is a brain and the ability to read...

watch videos on the internet and you ll learn how to "lift weights"...

[HugeRipped]

Haha, I've never been an employee of any fitness club in my life. And yes, I WILL compare my training knowledge to your "Masters" degree. You don't seem to get that although it's great to obtain your 'Masters" degree, real knowledge doesn't come until years down the road. You really think just because you get a piece of paper that says "I've passed tests" that automatically makes you an expert? Fuck you've got a lot to learn.

Do me a favor, give an example of program you would recommend for an athlete, say a football player. I'll be waiting for your response.

Actually, i know that my Master's degree in Exercise Science makes me exponentially more qualified in the fitness industry than someone devoid of any education (you).

As much as I would love to explain my training programs to you, I am concerend that it may fall on proverbially deaf ears. I focus my training on advanced level Exercise Science, learned and mastered by those with the intellectual fortitute to complete post-graduate education. If you are interested in recieving a training seminar in advanced personal training techniques for special demographics, that is something my business offers, and you can private message me for prices.

[Devon97]

Almost everybody in the world works for somebody else, most adults are able to grasp that concept.

I cant help but notice you failed to reply with mortality rates and QOL stats in reference to your odd claim about more competent MD's owning private practices. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are working on putting together a statistic composite to assist in arguing your point. Since you are now trying argue that owning one's own business generates more revenue on average, please provide the appropriate factual basis (with citations) to support that theory.

To recapitulate: I will take your odd claims seriously once you can provide any factual evidence to back them. Based on the interesting statements you have made this requires mortality rates and patient QOL statistics for doctors working in a private practice vs doctors working directly for a hospital organization. Also, please provide average annual salaries of doctors who run their own private practice vs chief MD's of a given department in a hospital. Try to keep the medical field the same throughout to avoid compounding variables, thanks in advance.

You will make a good sheep for someone lol

The wealthiest people in the country and the world work for them selves and own their own biz.

Can you see Steve Jobs showing up for the paycheck? LOLOL!

[Coach is Back!]

Almost everybody in the world works for somebody else, most adults are able to grasp that concept.

I cant help but notice you failed to reply with mortality rates and QOL stats in reference to your odd claim about more competent MD's owning private practices. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are working on putting together a statistic composite to assist in arguing your point. Since you are now trying argue that owning one's own business generates more revenue on average, please provide the appropriate factual basis (with citations) to support that theory.

To recapitulate: I will take your odd claims seriously once you can provide any factual evidence to back them. Based on the interesting statements you have made this requires mortality rates and patient QOL statistics for doctors working in a private practice vs doctors working directly for a hospital organization. Also, please provide average annual salaries of doctors who run their own private practice vs chief MD's of a given department in a hospital. Try to keep the medical field the same throughout to avoid compounding variables, thanks in advance.

Here's something pretty factual. The average S&C coach for a D1 school with a masters + a CSCS makes between $85-150K. I have my own business and double that, with successful clientele, athletes (from high school to professional) and celebrities. You make how much? You know how much? How long have you been a trainer for? Who is your clientele (I've asked this before, but like Goodrum you can't answer).

[HugeRipped]

You will make a good sheep for someone lol

The wealthiest people in the country and the world work for them selves and own their own biz.

Can you see Steve Jobs showing up for the paycheck? LOLOL!

You appear to be struggling to come to terms with the concept of a company and how hierarchical infrastructure works. I am still waiting for those statistics.

[HugeRipped]

Here's something pretty factual. The average S&C coach for a D1 school with a masters + a CSCS makes between $85-150K. I have my own business and double that, with successful clientele, athletes (from high school to professional) and celebrities. You make how much? You know how much? How long have you been a trainer for? Who is your clientele (I've asked this before, but like Goodrum you can't answer).

Perhaps if you graduated with a degree (maybe you missed statistics in those last 6 months) you would understand the concept of a confounding variable. You are comparing a D1 school coach to one who trains a demographic so wide it includes celebrities and professionals. Do you see the massive discrepancy that immediately invalidates your comparison or do I need to explain further?

[Devon97]

You appear to be struggling to come to terms with the concept of a company and how hierarchical infrastructure works. I am still waiting for those statistics.

Trump, Gates, Steve Jobs, Paul Allen,  W.B.....  NONE of them show up for the paycheck!

Don't worry , I'll hire you to run errands for me when you get tired of slaving away for $ 2,500/month lol

[CT_Muscle]

HugeRipped = TA

[Coach is Back!]

Perhaps if you graduated with a degree (maybe you missed statistics in those last 6 months) you would understand the concept of a confounding variable. You are comparing a D1 school coach to one who trains a demographic so wide it includes celebrities and professionals. Do you see the massive discrepancy that immediately invalidates your comparison or do I need to explain further?

No but you do. Kinda works like this junior, if you can train an athlete successfully you can train just about anyone, it doesn't work the other way around. See what I'm getting at?

[SF1900]

nobody needs a "personnal trainer"... all you need is a brain and the ability to read...

watch videos on the internet and you ll learn how to "lift weights"...