More complete than his contemporaries however didn't posses that wow or freaky factor

, not short, had calves, no gut some of the best abs in the day (better than Dorian,Ronnie and Cutler's abs), his quads made up for lack of sheer quantity with almost near perfect lines and cuts, his back was top five in a HEAVY field of competitors, chest shoulders and arms were all in porportion not much more you want to take or give to make it balanced but just makes you think how sick Ronnie, Levrone and Flex were back in the day. I always think that he shitted on cutler ...fuggin robbery.