Large Hadron Collider machine

[dr.chimps]

Honestly, the level of scientific illiteracy in this thread is shameful. Stella and Kiwiol are known to be "away with the fairies" somewhat, but the rest of you should be embarrassed.

The Luke

Any recent citations for Bigfoot, the non-monster-truck variety?    

[kiwiol]

Stella and Kiwiol are known to be "away with the fairies" somewhat, but the rest of you should be embarrassed.

 

[YngiweRhoads]

Honestly, the level of scientific illiteracy in this thread is shameful.

Haha! You beat me to it man.

[Butterbean]

I'm in good company 

[Overload]

Some of the most powerful minds on this Earth believe in the LHC.

I will trust the Scientists on this one. If we all sat around scared of splitting harmless atoms all the time we would never improve our technology.

Please educate yourselves on REAL Science before making such ignorant statements.

[kiwiol]

I'm in good company 

Hand in hand,
off we shall go, to be away with the fairies,
while teh Luke with his head buried in sand,
enacts the bigfoot comedy that's funnier an act than Jim Carrey's

[dr.chimps]

Hand in hand,
off we shall go, to be away with the fairies,
while teh Luke with his head buried in sand,
enacts the bigfoot comedy that's funnier an act than Jim Carrey's

LOL. 'There once was a woman from Nantucket...'   

[Mr Nobody]

LOL. 'There once was a woman from Nantucket...'   

Jack and Jill went up the hill to fetch a pail of water

[BIG ACH]

what the hell are you uneasy about?  theres no fucking pandoras box, the world is not gonna end because of this, and we are not playing "god"

Read a fucking book!


Source:  I graduate with a Masters in Engineering next month!

[spinnis]

what the hell are you uneasy about?  theres no fucking pandoras box, the world is not gonna end because of this, and we are not playing "god"

Read a fucking book!


Source:  I graduate with a Masters in Engineering next month!

You will post differently wen we're all starting to run towards the water 

[JOHN MATRIX]

CERN: Something May Come Through 'Dimensional Doors'      PDF        Print        E-mail
Thursday, 12 November 2009

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/9320/56/

A top scientist at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) says that the titanic machine may possibly create or discover previously unimagined scientific phenomena, or "unknown unknowns" - for instance "an extra dimension".

"Out of this door might come something, or we might send something through it," said Sergio Bertolucci, who is Director for Research and Scientific Computing at CERN, briefing reporters including the Reg at CERN HQ earlier this week.

The LHC, built inside a 27-km circular subterranean tunnel deep beneath the Franco-Swiss border outside Geneva, functions like a sort of orbital motorway for extremely high-speed hadrons - typically either protons or lead ions.

The differences are, firstly, that the streams of particles are moving at velocities within a whisker of light speed - such that each stream has as much energy in it as a normal car going at 1000mph. Secondly, the beams are arranged in such fashion that the two streams swerve through one another occasionally, which naturally results in huge numbers of incredibly violent head-on collisions.

These collisions are sufficiently violent that they are expected to briefly create conditions similar to those obtaining countless aeons ago, not long after the Big Bang, when the entire universe was still inconceivably small - it was smaller than a proton for quite some time, seemingly, still with all the stuff that nowadays makes up all the supra-enormity of space and galaxies and so forth packed in somehow.

Naturally, some extremely strange phenomena are to be expected when one mangles the very fabric of space-time itself in this fashion. Various eccentric nutballs have claimed that this would doom humanity in one fashion or another; perhaps converting the entire Earth, everything on it and possibly the rest of the universe too into "strangelet soup", monopole mulligatawny or some other sort of frightful sub-particulate blancmange or custard.

It has also been suggested that cack-handed boffins at the LHC might inadvertently call into being a miniature black hole and carelessly drop this into the centre of the Earth, rather irritatingly causing the planet to implode. It's certainly to be hoped that the button marked "Call Black Hole Into Being" on the control board has some kind of flip-down cover over it.

Obviously all that's utter rubbish. But some boffins have speculated that black holes might alternatively act as spacewarp wormhole portals into alternate universes, or something. This would seem to chime with Bertolucci's remarks this week on hyperdimensional "doors" out of which might come unspecified "somethings".

Anyone who has watched a TV, read any sci-fi or seen any movies will be well aware that hyperdimensional spacewarp wormhole portals don't normally lead to anything boring like empty space, parallel civilisations where humanity lives in peace and harmony or anything like that.

Rather, it seems a racing cert that we're looking here at an imminent visit from a race of carnivorous dinosaur-men, the superhuman clone hive-legions of some evil genetic queen-empress, infinite polypantheons of dark nega-deities imprisoned for aeons and hungering to feast upon human souls, a parallel-history victorious Nazi globo-Reich or something of that type.

We took the matter up with Dr Mike Lamont, a control-room boffin at the LHC.

"We're hoping to see supersymmetry and extra dimensions," he confirmed.

Pressed on the matter of doors through which something might come, as hinted at by Bertolucci, Lamont rather elliptically said "well, he's a theorist", before recommending the book Warped Passages by physicist Lisa Randall. This explores ways in which extra-dimensional space and entities might interact with our own. It uses among others the example of how a sphere moving in 3D space would appear to someone living on a single 2D plane-space - that is as a mysterious circle suddenly blossoming into existence, growing, perhaps moving about and then shrinking down and vanishing again.

"There's no maths in it," added Lamont encouragingly, having assessed the intellectual level of the Reg news team with disconcerting percipience.

Summarising, then, it appears that we might be in for some kind of invasion by spontaneously swelling and shrinking spherical or wheel-shaped creatures - something on the order of the huge rumbling stone ball from Indiana Jones - able to move in and out of our plane at will. Soon the cities of humanity will lie in smoking ruins, shattered by the Attack of the Teleporting Juggernaut-tyrants from the Nth Dimension.

Dr Bertolucci later got in touch to confirm that yes indeed, there would be an "open door", but that even with the power of the LHC at his disposal he would only be able to hold it open "a very tiny lapse of time, 10-26 seconds, [but] during that infinitesimal amount of time we would be able to peer into this open door, either by getting something out of it or sending something into it.

"Of course," adds Bertolucci, "after this tiny moment the door would again shut, bringing us back to our 'normal' four dimensional world ... It would be a major leap in our vision of Nature, although of no practcal use (for the time being, at least). And of course [there would be] no risk to the stability of our world."



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Not sure how these guys can be so positive in what may or may not happen.

ROFL, this was pretty much the plot for DOOM. how funny would it be if that happened in real life

[James Blunt]

Funny how people get to dropping insults over scientific talk. Like that's necessary. I like to discuss it to figure out more about it, and stand corrected whenever someone lays down something that's right. If i'm wrong great... I'd like to learn more. So please, help me get familiar, because I'm not. I'm a parrot when it comes to science. I don;t study anything myself and I review what smarter characters have said and repeat it if it comes up. There are a lot of insecure nerds in this thread.

[The Luke]

Funny how people get to dropping insults over scientific talk. Like that's necessary. I like to discuss it to figure out more about it, and stand corrected whenever someone lays down something that's right. If i'm wrong great... I'd like to learn more. So please, help me get familiar, because I'm not. I'm a parrot when it comes to science. I don;t study anything myself and I review what smarter characters have said and repeat it if it comes up. There are a lot of insecure nerds in this thread.

Epic. Truly epic.


The Luke

[Butterbean]

Hand in hand,
off we shall go, to be away with the fairies,

Old Rooster will be there and Bro_in_the_Know,
sevastase and his homeboy Stewart Swerdlow

Eyeball Chambers, mass04 (PIP), Man of Steel, Ron,
Johnny Falcon will be there mowing the lawn

[James Blunt]

Epic. Truly epic.


The Luke

By that I'm referring to things dealing with science. You could pick that apart and take whatever you want out of context, or get way too literal with it, but if you're so smart enough you know what I mean. I'm not a genius, and don't claim to be. I reads articles where studies have been done by much smarter people. Get it?

[240 is Back]

This machine was responsible for the damage in the book/ABC series "FlashForward" if you watch that.

[ToxicAvenger]

They just collided protons at a speed which they were never been able to do so before - now they say they will close Collider for 1 year and then try again with the hope to gain more knowledge into dark matter.

Anybody else feels uneasy about this?

I don't much about dark matter the universe, but I think scientists are in many way and have been in many ways been more interested in how to get to their goal or better how to get the results they need for their studies but don't put in consideration what happens after that.

But Pandora's box has been opened again.

dark matter and dark energy are not a new concept...i remember reading about it in discover mag in the 1990s and even then it ws old news..here we go
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/090427-mm-dark-energy.html    <short sweet article


do a quick search on "Brane Theory" on space.com for more reading
Taken together, dark matter and dark energy seem to make up most of the mass of the universe (matter and energy are considered to be two forms of the same thing, thanks to Einstein's famous equation E=Mc^2). Dark energy is thought to account for 74 percent of the universe, while dark matter adds about 22 percent, and normal, visible matter contributes a puny 4 percent.[/b]

[Mr Nobody]

Old Rooster will be there and Bro_in_the_Know,
sevastase and his homeboy Stewart Swerdlow

Eyeball Chambers, mass04 (PIP), Man of Steel, Ron,
Johnny Falcon will be there mowing the lawn

Ha Ha LOL Falcon will be posting as he mows.

[ToxicAvenger]

Obviously all that's utter rubbish. But some boffins have speculated that black holes might alternatively act as spacewarp wormhole portals into alternate universes, or something. This would seem to chime with Bertolucci's remarks this week on hyperdimensional "doors" out of which might come unspecified "somethings".

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/bigbang_alternative_010413-1.html

there u go Stells...this article explains the whole lot....sooo...yes we do live in a multiverse...where a universe comes into being when 2 branes touch.....and if any multitude of universes r possible then all possibilities can be possible although some more improbable than the other (< i know of no simple way to say that)

if i remember right...light particles (photons) can travel between branes and so can the "yet to be discovered" nutrino ( a fact they conveniently left out of the movie 2012)


anyhooo...enjoy!