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« Reply #200 on: April 11, 2010, 07:25:49 PM »
Typical of a middle aged man with no education beyond the public high school system, he is deeply embarassed by the fact that he is a college drop out so he attempts to decieve others by listing his education as the college he dropped out of, with the major he never earned a degree in.

well since he has declared making so much money and how much he will be taxed because of the new health care reform, I assumed he had at least a bachelors, but probably a graduate degree.  Real world experience only goes so far in this world, a University really teaches you things that you would never learn on the internet or just in life by itself.  That is why a college education is so valuable. 

I wouldn't expect any professional athlete to hire a trainer that did not graduate from college, have a master's or doctorate in their profession since so much is on the line career wise for the athlete. 

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« Reply #201 on: April 11, 2010, 07:28:46 PM »
well since he has declared making so much money and how much he will be taxed because of the new health care reform, I assumed he had at least a bachelors, but probably a graduate degree.  Real world experience only goes so far in this world, a University really teaches you things that you would never learn on the internet or just in life by itself.  That is why a college education is so valuable. 

I wouldn't expect any professional athlete to hire a trainer that did not graduate from college, have a master's or doctorate in their profession since so much is on the line career wise for the athlete. 



He employs deceptive marketing techniques to trick his customers into giving him money. Why do you think the majority of his clientele fail horribly at the sport he is "training" them in? It is because he has no actual knowledge of exercise science or human nutrition, he is an illegal drug abusing college drop out. These same principles apply as to why he can only take pictures of himself using camera angle tricks and enhanced shadowing - he cannot even come to terms with his height and body-type.

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« Reply #202 on: April 11, 2010, 07:52:16 PM »
He employs deceptive marketing techniques to trick his customers into giving him money. Why do you think the majority of his clientele fail horribly at the sport he is "training" them in? It is because he has no actual knowledge of exercise science or human nutrition, he is an illegal drug abusing college drop out. These same principles apply as to why he can only take pictures of himself using camera angle tricks and enhanced shadowing - he cannot even come to terms with his height and body-type.

I have learned though your posts this is the truth.  Also I have seen arguments saying your body is not up to par as they say to train someone else.  It really doesn't matter if your trainer is a steroid freak or a in shape healthy person like yourself.  Being huge doesn't give you credetials to train anybody.  Perfect example, Ronnie Coleman, probably one of the dumbest bodybuilders out there, but he is huge.  



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« Reply #203 on: April 11, 2010, 08:17:01 PM »
I have learned though your posts this is the truth.  Also I have seen arguments saying your body is not up to par as they say to train someone else.  It really doesn't matter if your trainer is a steroid freak or a in shape healthy person like yourself.  Being huge doesn't give you credetials to train anybody.  Perfect example, Ronnie Coleman, probably one of the dumbest bodybuilders out there, but he is huge.  

Personal training is about improving the quality of someone's life through reaching their health and fitness goals whether they are an athlete or were just recently discharged from OT/PT after a stroke. To think that someone can claim to be qualified to serve the public in such a specific and delicate manner without so much as finishing college is a frightening concept. It just truly goes to show how many unscrupulous scam artists there are in this world.

As far as my own physique goes, I have been lifting weights for general health for 7 years and I have been bodybuilding for 2 years. People on this forum like to make attempts at debasing me through any means possible, but the fact of the matter is that on the topic of my body I am 6'2'' 165lbs at 9.7 percent bodyfat which is extremely lean and within 3 percent of contest condition. My photo is taken without overhead lighting yet my serratus is still visible which goes to show the level of muscularity I possess. If the people on this board like "The Coach" were able to accept themselves and stand next to me without camera angles and exaggerated shadows, I would dwarf them.

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« Reply #204 on: April 11, 2010, 10:51:55 PM »
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« Reply #205 on: April 11, 2010, 11:12:14 PM »

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« Reply #206 on: April 11, 2010, 11:40:32 PM »
Personal training is about improving the quality of someone's life through reaching their health and fitness goals whether they are an athlete or were just recently discharged from OT/PT after a stroke. To think that someone can claim to be qualified to serve the public in such a specific and delicate manner without so much as finishing college is a frightening concept. It just truly goes to show how many unscrupulous scam artists there are in this world.

As far as my own physique goes, I have been lifting weights for general health for 7 years and I have been bodybuilding for 2 years. People on this forum like to make attempts at debasing me through any means possible, but the fact of the matter is that on the topic of my body I am 6'2'' 165lbs at 9.7 percent bodyfat which is extremely lean and within 3 percent of contest condition. My photo is taken without overhead lighting yet my serratus is still visible which goes to show the level of muscularity I possess. If the people on this board like "The Coach" were able to accept themselves and stand next to me without camera angles and exaggerated shadows, I would dwarf them.

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« Reply #207 on: April 11, 2010, 11:58:00 PM »
I have learned though your posts this is the truth.  Also I have seen arguments saying your body is not up to par as they say to train someone else.  It really doesn't matter if your trainer is a steroid freak or a in shape healthy person like yourself.  Being huge doesn't give you credetials to train anybody.  Perfect example, Ronnie Coleman, probably one of the dumbest bodybuilders out there, but he is huge.  




What makes you say Ronnie doesn't know how to train?
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« Reply #208 on: April 12, 2010, 01:20:12 AM »
Personal training is about improving the quality of someone's life through reaching their health and fitness goals whether they are an athlete or were just recently discharged from OT/PT after a stroke. To think that someone can claim to be qualified to serve the public in such a specific and delicate manner without so much as finishing college is a frightening concept. It just truly goes to show how many unscrupulous scam artists there are in this world.

As far as my own physique goes, I have been lifting weights for general health for 7 years and I have been bodybuilding for 2 years. People on this forum like to make attempts at debasing me through any means possible, but the fact of the matter is that on the topic of my body I am 6'2'' 165lbs at 9.7 percent bodyfat which is extremely lean and within 3 percent of contest condition. My photo is taken without overhead lighting yet my serratus is still visible which goes to show the level of muscularity I possess. If the people on this board like "The Coach" were able to accept themselves and stand next to me without camera angles and exaggerated shadows, I would dwarf them.

You're not ripped and that isn't your serratus showing - looks more like the edge of your rib-cage. I'm only going by what I see in your avatar pic.

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« Reply #209 on: April 12, 2010, 03:29:33 PM »
well since he has declared making so much money and how much he will be taxed because of the new health care reform, I assumed he had at least a bachelors, but probably a graduate degree.  Real world experience only goes so far in this world, a University really teaches you things that you would never learn on the internet or just in life by itself.  That is why a college education is so valuable. 

I wouldn't expect any professional athlete to hire a trainer that did not graduate from college, have a master's or doctorate in their profession since so much is on the line career wise for the athlete. 


Greg Jackson, the most successful MMA trainer (George Saint Pierre) makes no mention of any certifications or college degrees. He may have but, if so, it's worth noting that he doesn't mention it. He was a wrestler and began Jiu-Jitsu which made him interested in becoming a fighter. He started his own MMA school and eventually started training other fighters. There is no school that will give you a formal education on how to be an MMA trainer.

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« Reply #210 on: April 12, 2010, 05:06:55 PM »
Greg Jackson, the most successful MMA trainer (George Saint Pierre) makes no mention of any certifications or college degrees. He may have but, if so, it's worth noting that he doesn't mention it. He was a wrestler and began Jiu-Jitsu which made him interested in becoming a fighter. He started his own MMA school and eventually started training other fighters. There is no school that will give you a formal education on how to be an MMA trainer.


Exactly.  Chuck Norris didn't have any certifications that I know of and his studios were packed when they first opened.  Does Maranovich who trains BJ have any certificates that he mentions.  How certification did Gus Dmato have with Tyson or Atlas.  Randy Couture charges $1000 an hour for a private lesson.  How many certificates does he have.  Having any kind of certification means NOTHING to real athletes.  All they fucking care about is results!  I'll take catching lessons from johnny Bench any day of the week over any fucking college grad with a certificate.
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« Reply #211 on: April 12, 2010, 05:12:27 PM »
Yet another shitty gimmick.  :(

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« Reply #212 on: April 13, 2010, 12:29:06 AM »
Exactly.  Chuck Norris didn't have any certifications that I know of and his studios were packed when they first opened.  Does Maranovich who trains BJ have any certificates that he mentions.  How certification did Gus Dmato have with Tyson or Atlas.  Randy Couture charges $1000 an hour for a private lesson.  How many certificates does he have.  Having any kind of certification means NOTHING to real athletes.  All they fucking care about is results!  I'll take catching lessons from johnny Bench any day of the week over any fucking college grad with a certificate.

I was going to mention Marv Marinovich but he use to be a S/C coach for the NFL and I'm sure you need real certs and education creds. But you say it all right here. I don't care if Coach didn't even graduate from high school like Arthur Jones. I'd be honored and grateful to be under the watchful eye of Coach who actually applied/applies his teaching to himself and has real world experience. And A. Jones would laugh at all these certifications and laugh even harder at those with these certs trying to past themselves off as trainers.

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« Reply #213 on: April 13, 2010, 01:13:54 AM »
I was going to mention Marv Marinovich but he use to be a S/C coach for the NFL and I'm sure you need real certs and education creds. But you say it all right here. I don't care if Coach didn't even graduate from high school like Arthur Jones. I'd be honored and grateful to be under the watchful eye of Coach who actually applied/applies his teaching to himself and has real world experience. And A. Jones would laugh at all these certifications and laugh even harder at those with these certs trying to past themselves off as trainers.


I hate college football but since my mom graduated from SC and our good friends are SC loyals I went to a few games.  Our friends had season tickets.  We had the seats located two rows from the very top.  Behind us sat the Todd Marinovich's parents.  Is Marv his dad.  And one more USC connection (besides OJ). I was at the gym today and saw on the news a bit about the USC Athletic Director Mike Garrett.  Mike and I owned a neon company back in the 80's.  At that time he was head of the boxing at The Forum in Inglewood.  That is how I met him.  Well I had no idea who he was.  I set up a meeting with the owners of a company called Body Glove who I knew.  Me and Mike went to the meeting together.  Well when we get in Robbie's office he immediately said to Mike "Man I can't believe it's you" and went on and on about him.  I step back and he looks at me and I say "who are you" and then Robbie tells me about the Heisman trophy.  All that time we were together I had no idea he won the Heisman Trophy.  He was so small.  Anyway from that point on I started seeing him on TV more and more.  He ended up being the AD at USC and I saw him last in Chicago around 94' or so.  I also intorduced Mike to Chuck Norris omne time when Chuck wanted to go to the Boxing.  So I got us tickets.  We had dinner with Dr. Buss and some others.  THen Mike came in.  At the exact same time when they shook hands they both said "I thought you were taller".  They were the same height.  Anyway that is my USC story (a few of them)

By the way, what did Mike do that he was on the news today.
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« Reply #214 on: April 13, 2010, 02:10:50 AM »
I hate college football but since my mom graduated from SC and our good friends are SC loyals I went to a few games.  Our friends had season tickets.  We had the seats located two rows from the very top.  Behind us sat the Todd Marinovich's parents.  Is Marv his dad.  And one more USC connection (besides OJ). I was at the gym today and saw on the news a bit about the USC Athletic Director Mike Garrett.  Mike and I owned a neon company back in the 80's.  At that time he was head of the boxing at The Forum in Inglewood.  That is how I met him.  Well I had no idea who he was.  I set up a meeting with the owners of a company called Body Glove who I knew.  Me and Mike went to the meeting together.  Well when we get in Robbie's office he immediately said to Mike "Man I can't believe it's you" and went on and on about him.  I step back and he looks at me and I say "who are you" and then Robbie tells me about the Heisman trophy.  All that time we were together I had no idea he won the Heisman Trophy.  He was so small.  Anyway from that point on I started seeing him on TV more and more.  He ended up being the AD at USC and I saw him last in Chicago around 94' or so.  I also intorduced Mike to Chuck Norris omne time when Chuck wanted to go to the Boxing.  So I got us tickets.  We had dinner with Dr. Buss and some others.  THen Mike came in.  At the exact same time when they shook hands they both said "I thought you were taller".  They were the same height.  Anyway that is my USC story (a few of them)

By the way, what did Mike do that he was on the news today.

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« Reply #215 on: April 13, 2010, 05:50:14 AM »
Yet another shitty gimmick.  :(

No shit. And who cares who the owner of the gimmick is either. It's either someone who cuts and pastes all the time or someone who has an axe to grind with Coach or simply someone who is just being a fucking idiot. Or all three.

Ron even posted in one of these threads for fucks sake. HR was funny for about one thread and now it's the same thing over and over again. Put this fuck in Time Out with Falcon (?) and all the other idiots and be done with it. The gimmick is poorly run anyways, it's just far to obvious but idiots on the board keep 'feeding the animals'. The gimmick is old and tired as it's been done before but the posters and the other gimmicks are to stupid to realize this.

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« Reply #216 on: April 13, 2010, 07:28:17 AM »
This guy sure is a fun gimmick. Fun meaning not fun at all. Well, maybe for him.

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« Reply #217 on: April 13, 2010, 11:12:23 AM »
What makes you say Ronnie doesn't know how to train?

I said just cause Ronnie has a lot of muscle, doesn't mean he is qualified to train anybody else, he would probably end up getting them in the hospital actually.

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« Reply #218 on: April 13, 2010, 11:44:28 AM »
Yet another shitty gimmick.  :(


Funny thing is that Coach and Keith is taking him too seriously.  Whoever he is...he sure is a champ for getting under people's skin. 
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« Reply #219 on: April 13, 2010, 11:51:31 AM »

Funny thing is that Coach and Keith is taking him too seriously.  Whoever he is...he sure is a champ for getting under people's skin. 

The only thing I take seriously is the personal attacks and the threats on my business. Luckly we (through a little help with certain people on this board, thank you) if anything should happend, we have legit IP's on both HiTexan and HugeRipped. As for Hugeripped, I don't take his posts on training or nutrition seriously simply because he's pretty much out in left field with the cut and paste answers. He has a really hard time answering without doing a search. The proof is if he really wanted to try and discredit me he would answer my questions. He can't and like the liberal he is (I know who it is) he spins.

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« Reply #220 on: April 13, 2010, 11:55:32 AM »
The only thing I take seriously is the personal attacks and the threats on my business. Luckly we (through a little help with certain people on this board, thank you) if anything should happend, we have legit IP's on both HiTexan and HugeRipped. As for Hugeripped, I don't take his posts on training or nutrition seriously simply because he's pretty much out in left field with the cut and paste answers. He has a really hard time answering without doing a search. The proof is if he really wanted to try and discredit me he would answer my questions. He can't and like the liberal he is (I know who it is) he spins.

How do you feel about my upcoming petition to discontinue insurance coverage for trainers outside of a commercial gym setting that lack a college degree in a related field? I have some big names that I am close friends with (think high end, big name recognition national chain gyms) who will be putting their name down on this. Its only a matter of time before your charade of a fitness business can no longer function as a direct result of your lack of education and you are forced to go back to Bally's where you belong.

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« Reply #221 on: April 13, 2010, 11:59:44 AM »
How do you feel about my upcoming petition to discontinue insurance coverage for trainers outside of a commercial gym setting that lack a college degree in a related field? I have some big names that I am close friends with (think high end, big name recognition national chain gyms) who will be putting their name down on this. Its only a matter of time before your charade of a fitness business can no longer function as a direct result of your lack of education and you are forced to go back to Bally's where you belong.

In athletics regarding speed (or acceleration), give my two words that would describe "speed"? This in an elementary question. 

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« Reply #222 on: April 13, 2010, 12:03:41 PM »
In athletics regarding speed (or acceleration), give my two words that would describe "speed"? This in an elementary question. 
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« Reply #223 on: April 13, 2010, 12:05:12 PM »
In athletics regarding speed (or acceleration), give my two words that would describe "speed"? This in an elementary question. 

Yet again this charlatan has been caught attempting to coerce me into answering questions for his latest online certification exam. Go back to college, theres no shame in getting an education at any age.

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« Reply #224 on: April 13, 2010, 12:08:45 PM »
Not a question on any test. IO what ever dude.