"The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional

[Coach is Back!]

Its ok IO if you don't know the answer.

[HugeRipped]

Not a question on any test. IO what ever dude.

I have not used the words "whatever" or "dude" in nearly a decade. I ceased childish ramblings once I began pursuing knowledge at a university level and in becoming a successful and educated adult I found no need for such sub-linguistics. Even in your very vernacular, your lack of education has been exposed, yet again.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

The only thing I take seriously is the personal attacks and the threats on my business. Luckly we (through a little help with certain people on this board, thank you) if anything should happend, we have legit IP's on both HiTexan and HugeRipped. As for Hugeripped, I don't take his posts on training or nutrition seriously simply because he's pretty much out in left field with the cut and paste answers. He has a really hard time answering without doing a search. The proof is if he really wanted to try and discredit me he would answer my questions. He can't and like the liberal he is (I know who it is) he spins.

If I recall, YOU made personal attacks on my business and called me out as an unqualified trainer even though I've been training for 9 years.  

Karma is a bitch Joe and while I don't disagree with Hugeripped being a complete idiot for criticizing your business, you should respect the same rules

[HugeRipped]

If I recall, YOU made personal attacks on my business and called me out as an unqualified trainer even though I've been training for 9 years.  

Karma is a bitch Joe and while I don't disagree with Hugeripped being a complete idiot for criticizing your business, you should respect the same rules

Both of you are fitness industry scam artists. Neither of you have attended an accredited college yet you both award yourself with false credentials backed by an entirely online education. Why do you even bother with the "CSN MFT" after your name? Do you hope that someone will mistake those as collegiate level credentials?

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Both of you are fitness industry scam artists. Neither of you have attended an accredited college yet you both award yourself with false credentials backed by an entirely online education. Why do you even bother with the "CSN MFT" after your name? Do you hope that someone will mistake those as collegiate level credentials?

Actually I did attend college.  I simply didn't waste my time studying for a degree in Exercise Science ala "glorified personal trainer".  My field is in engineering but now due to the economy and layoffs, I turned my side gig into a career

While I eventually got a Diploma in Fitness & Exercise from Ashworth College, the cool fact is that I spent a measly 30 dollars for the personal trainer certification from the AMFPT back in 2001 starting out and today I have built a great business where I make my own hours and I have plenty of satisfied clients and customers.

Ben & Jerry's founders took a $15 mail order course in making ice cream and they're doing pretty well last time I heard....

I will say that you are a very amusing specimen but seriously you need your head checked....BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!  

[HugeRipped]

Actually I did attend college.  I simply didn't waste my time studying for a degree in Exercise Science ala "glorified personal trainer".  My field is in engineering but now due to the economy and layoffs, I turned my side gig into a career

While I eventually got a Diploma in Fitness & Exercise from Ashworth College, the cool fact is that I spent a measly 30 dollars for the personal trainer certification from the AMFPT back in 2001 starting out and today I have built a great business where I make my own hours and I have plenty of satisfied clients and customers.

Ben & Jerry's founders took a $15 mail order course in making ice cream and they're doing pretty well last time I heard....

I will say that you are a very amusing specimen but seriously you need your head checked....BAHAHAHAHAHA!!!  

Translation: you have no job because you attended a subpar university, majored in a subpar field and performed poorly in your post-graduate job leading to a lay off. Now you claim to be a fitness industry professional with online certifications. Do not try to justify your failures to someone that has dedicated his life to becoming one of the best and most knowledgeable trainers in the industry.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Translation: you have no job because you attended a subpar university, majored in a subpar field and performed poorly in your post-graduate job leading to a lay off. Now you claim to be a fitness industry professional with online certifications. Do not try to justify your failures to someone that has dedicated his life to becoming one of the best and most knowledgeable trainers in the industry.

Chuckle......son I don't even know who you are and I don't think anyone can (or should) take you seriously.        You won't even give out your real name or school that you studied at so unless you can do that, anything you say isn't worth anything. 

[lvtolft]

I am really hoping this is one big "joke".
While education and certifications are important, this field is much more complicated than that.
While schooling taught me some basic physiology and assessment methods, the majority of experience in training clients and adapting my training came from experience in the field.

Joe has got some major credentials when it comes to experience and also shows it with his physique (not as much now  ).
To argue he is not successful with his clients would be an irresponsible statement.
From most of his threads and comments, you can see he is heavily interested in his field and is educating himself on a regular basis.

To tell you the truth, many CE's you earn for your certification are a joke and don't help you at all.  I would much rather attend college football camps and talk with other strength and conditioning coaches about what works and what doesn't than answer a 50 question multiple choice test.

There are many irresponsible trainers out there.  You sound more like one than Joe does.
 

[GigantorX]

Just another worthless gimmick performing an act that has been done before countless times by countless gimmicks.

Ron, where are you on this?

[Coach is Back!]

If I recall, YOU made personal attacks on my business and called me out as an unqualified trainer even though I've been training for 9 years.  

Karma is a bitch Joe and while I don't disagree with Hugeripped being a complete idiot for criticizing your business, you should respect the same rules

Never once called you out on your training methods nor have I ever said you were unqualified to be a trainer but you did, you even wrote a stupid little comment on one of my youtube videos, I left it there for posterity. . This is the article you're referring to...

http://mpftrainingsystems.com/

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Never once called you out on your training methods nor have I ever said you were unqualified to be a trainer but you did, you even wrote a stupid little comment on one of my youtube videos, I left it there for posterity. . This is the article you're referring to...

http://mpftrainingsystems.com/

You posted a thread with that article from EliteFTS and in the title you placed..."This is for Vince Goodrum and others last month here on Getbig".

While I don't care what no name trolls say about me, I was disappointed that you didn't show me any professional courtesy.  And since you didn't, I decided to mock your youtube video.  At least I didn't hide behind any fake identity.

[Coach is Back!]

You posted a thread with that article from EliteFTS and in the title you placed..."This is for Vince Goodrum and others last month here on Getbig".

While I don't care what no name trolls say about me, I was disappointed that you didn't show me any professional courtesy.  And since you didn't, I decided to mock your youtube video.  At least I didn't hide behind any fake identity.

Neither did I. Nor do I. Like some of the people on here I don't hide and make my identity fully known. Didn't you say just a few days ago that you gave someone your account for another board and they were"Owning" people there? What was that all about Vince?

[GigantorX]

So, a worthless gimmick can come on Getbig and throw around baseless accusations, slander and insults with the direct and stated attempt to discredit and hurt the business of an actual GetBig member with nary a peep from the "Top Guys"?

But someone dares to start a thread questioning certain supplement companies, the workers of the "industry" and such, and they are quickly shown the door?

Is this how this works now?

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Neither did I. Nor do I. Like some of the people on here I don't hide and make my identity fully known. Didn't you say just a few days ago that you gave someone your account for another board and they were"Owning" people there? What was that all about Vince?

That was for Anabolic Society because I didn't wish to waste my time with them.

The thing is that I originally did training as a side gig for some extra money so when I got laid off in 2007, I did take the job more seriously.

[Hulkotron]

Vince what was your previous job?

[Vince B]

Many here dismiss proper academic qualifications in exercise science. Knowledgeable, experienced, educated people would acknowledge that there is a lot to learn in exercise science and most people on Getbig probably would not be able to do post graduate degrees in this area because it is too difficult. If you think you are smart then go have a read of any exercise physiology journal and see if you can comprehend the research. Only exercise scientists can read that discipline and we should respect all of them. It is as difficult as rocket science or any other science. Human physiology is extremly difficult and complicated.

My son has a masters in exercise science and has been around the gym and bodybuilding for decades. Even though I have over 51 years experience in bodybuilding and have done a post graduate course in exercise science I defer to him when difficult questions are asked about muscles, functions and injuries. You cannot claim to know things that you do not. That is the point that the Op has made in this thread and others. Too many charlatans are employed in the gym industry and that lowers the respect that the public has for all of us. I shake my head when I see recently qualified personal trainers who don't really know much. They wouldn't be able to separate good advice from bad because they don't really know much at all.

I would recommend that gym instuctors do a 4 year university course at a proper university. Then we might have intelligent people in the industry instead of meatheads and knuckleheads who think this is an easy field to have a career in. Standards have been in the industry for not more than a couple of decades so we have a long way to go. In the meantime, all manner of 'experts' operate as qualified people when they really are nothing of the sort.

[jtsunami]

Many here dismiss proper academic qualifications in exercise science. Knowledgeable, experienced, educated people would acknowledge that there is a lot to learn in exercise science and most people on Getbig probably would not be able to do post graduate degrees in this area because it is too difficult. If you think you are smart then go have a read of any exercise physiology journal and see if you can comprehend the research. Only exercise scientists can read that discipline and we should respect all of them. It is as difficult as rocket science or any other science. Human physiology is extremly difficult and complicated.

My son has a masters in exercise science and has been around the gym and bodybuilding for decades. Even though I have over 51 years experience in bodybuilding and have done a post graduate course in exercise science I defer to him when difficult questions are asked about muscles, functions and injuries. You cannot claim to know things that you do not. That is the point that the Op has made in this thread and others. Too many charlatans are employed in the gym industry and that lowers the respect that the public has for all of us. I shake my head when I see recently qualified personal trainers who don't really know much. They wouldn't be able to separate good advice from bad because they don't really know much at all.

I would recommend that gym instuctors do a 4 year university course at a proper university. Then we might have intelligent people in the industry instead of meatheads and knuckleheads who think this is an easy field to have a career in. Standards have been in the industry for not more than a couple of decades so we have a long way to go. In the meantime, all manner of 'experts' operate as qualified people when they really are nothing of the sort.

X2!

[lvtolft]

Many here dismiss proper academic qualifications in exercise science. Knowledgeable, experienced, educated people would acknowledge that there is a lot to learn in exercise science and most people on Getbig probably would not be able to do post graduate degrees in this area because it is too difficult. If you think you are smart then go have a read of any exercise physiology journal and see if you can comprehend the research. Only exercise scientists can read that discipline and we should respect all of them. It is as difficult as rocket science or any other science. Human physiology is extremly difficult and complicated.

My son has a masters in exercise science and has been around the gym and bodybuilding for decades. Even though I have over 51 years experience in bodybuilding and have done a post graduate course in exercise science I defer to him when difficult questions are asked about muscles, functions and injuries. You cannot claim to know things that you do not. That is the point that the Op has made in this thread and others. Too many charlatans are employed in the gym industry and that lowers the respect that the public has for all of us. I shake my head when I see recently qualified personal trainers who don't really know much. They wouldn't be able to separate good advice from bad because they don't really know much at all.

I would recommend that gym instuctors do a 4 year university course at a proper university. Then we might have intelligent people in the industry instead of meatheads and knuckleheads who think this is an easy field to have a career in. Standards have been in the industry for not more than a couple of decades so we have a long way to go. In the meantime, all manner of 'experts' operate as qualified people when they really are nothing of the sort.

I do agree that trainers should have a degree in order to train.  I would not call the education as hard as rocket science.  Not for me, anyway.
The problem with the industry is that most gyms do not pay trainers for their additional time in the gym and require them to be more of a sales person than an educated trainer.  It is quite frustrating to see someone with a masters degree getting paid $9/hour for a free consult.  Most people with an advanced degree will go into Exercise Physiology, Rehab, Teaching, or some other work so that they can have a consistent income.
Until that changes, which I don't think it will.  You will have the majority of trainers be under qualified sales people.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Vince what was your previous job?

Systems Engineer for Ikon, then I worked at Alltel as a Universal Rep.  Can't discuss what I did at Lockheed

[Vince B]

Here we go on the Goodrum bullshit express. He is not a qualified engineer in anything. He does not have an university degree. He is not properly qualified as a personal trainer, either.

[mwbbuilder]

That's a lot of education to be struggling personal trainer.

[jtsunami]

Systems Engineer for Ikon, then I worked at Alltel as a Universal Rep.  Can't discuss what I did at Lockheed

did you ever see TA at Lockheed?

[HugeRipped]

Here we go on the Goodrum bullshit express. He is not a qualified engineer in anything. He does not have an university degree. He is not properly qualified as a personal trainer, either.

Similar to "The Coach" he is a fitness industry con man who employs deceptive marketing techniques to trick his potential client demographic into handing him money for sub-par health and fitness guidance. While "The Coach" attempts to make people believe that he graduated college with a degree, "Vince G" attempts to make people believe that he has actual credentials by putting two acronyms after his name. Just as I exposed "The Coach" as the uneducated fraud that he is, any small amount of research will uncover the truth in that "Vince G" does not possess a single collegiate level qualification in the fitness field nor does he possess a single certification that is nationally accredited or even requires a physical test.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Here we go on the Goodrum bullshit express. He is not a qualified engineer in anything. He does not have an university degree. He is not properly qualified as a personal trainer, either.

Yes, I do have a university degree you old piece of shit.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Similar to "The Coach" he is a fitness industry con man who employs deceptive marketing techniques to trick his potential client demographic into handing him money for sub-par health and fitness guidance. While "The Coach" attempts to make people believe that he graduated college with a degree, "Vince G" attempts to make people believe that he has actual credentials by putting two acronyms after his name. Just as I exposed "The Coach" as the uneducated fraud that he is, any small amount of research will uncover the truth in that "Vince G" does not possess a single collegiate level qualification in the fitness field nor does he possess a single certification that is nationally accredited or even requires a physical test.

Being a personal trainer isn't some specialized job like a nurse, engineer, or a doctor.  All you need is a certification and some PT insurance and that's it.

As long as you can perform the job properly, no one is going to give a shit about what hangs on the wall.  I can assure you that 99% of the personal trainers working don't have a degree and quite frankly they don't need one. 

Of course, I do have a collegiate level education in fitness and exercise that's been completed.  But it doesn't change much of anything.  The job is still the same.