"The Coach" claims to be a fitness industry professional

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Goodrum gives advice on several areas when someone consults him for $70 an hour and that he is an expert in.  Examples of questions he can answer with expertise include;

1. How do I make that burning feeling go away in my ass
2. How can control the amount of cum dripping out of my mouth while eating KFC
3. Should I keep my eyes closed during a bukake session
4. Is it true about not wiping my ass makes anal sex better.  
5. If I put more useless letters behind my name I can charge more money and still provide no knowledge

Talk all you want but I can pay my bills while you can't pay back people your ripped off.  On top of that...you're fat.  

Now I got better things to do than deal with a blob like you.

[Vince B]

80-90% of my training is based on science and yes, through peer reviewed studies. Do you just think I throw a routine together and HOPE it works. Everything I do is based on a system.

It is that 10 to 20 per cent that I worry about. What is the test of truth for those things?

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Thats horseshit Vince. Maybe in your country, but not in this country. Having a degree in exercise science does not give you the authority to diagnose and you can't really treat anyone unless you can properly identify the problem and only a qualified doctor can do that and then go to a physical therapist if necessary, in my case dealing with athletes, most of the time an Ortho. Thats like sending a cardiac patient to a GP.

Thanks, I was just about to explain that to him along with the fact that if I gave medical advice then I would most likely end up getting sued

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Just shows your lack of experience, Melvin. People present at gyms with various injuries they have had previously or have at the moment and want to know how to proceed. What would you tell them? Well, a person trained in rehab as part of an exercise science program would know what to say and do. You obviously have no clue at all but are sensible enough to refer them to doctors. That isn't the kind of injury I am talking about. I mean the kind that bother people but don't cripple or sideline them. Nagging pains and sore areas.

So, Melvin, where did you graduate from? I am sure you would have listed it on Facebook had you obtained a university degree.

Read the above post you moron...

[Coach is Back!]

It is that 10 to 20 per cent that I worry about. What is the test of truth for those things?

You have to have some commonsense when it come to ANYTHING Vince. We'll just chalk up that other 10-20% to commonsense.


Thought you might find this interesting, but then again.....


Paul Chek
Despite an education that never went beyond earning a high school diploma, Paul Chek has capitalized on his passion for lifelong learning and his love of teaching to become one of the most influential leaders in mainstream fitness. Although he certainly did not invent the Swiss ball, through his seminars and writings Chek must be acknowledged as the individual who got us to take corrective training seriously and got countless personal trainers to take an interest in peer-review research.

Think about it – a decade ago the concept of “core” and “corrective” training did not exist, and now it’s common terminology among everyone from professional strength coaches to housewives to fitness bunnies to senior citizens. Chek’s love of knowledge has led to a successful seminar and certification business that has expanded worldwide and created a loyal base of fans who are universally referred to as “Chekies.” Now you can go into any general public gym around the World without finding at least one Swiss Ball.

I first met Paul in 1994 when I visited his facility in La Jolla, California, to learn firsthand about his techniques for assessing posture and developing the abdominals, and about his comprehensive approach to dealing with all the factors associated with lower back pain. I shared many of his ideas in my first book, The Poliquin Principles.

True, there are now core and functional training certifications (and even college-level courses) that are even more extensive and science-based than the ones offered by this innovative (and often controversial) trainer and teacher – but the fact is that all of them owe a debt of gratitude to Paul Chek.

Many of you may challenge my selections, but I truly believe that if you do your own diligent research, these three men will rate high on your own list of the most influential people in the personal training industry.

[Vince B]

Talk all you want but I can pay my bills while you can't pay back people your ripped off.  On top of that...you're fat.  

Now I got better things to do than deal with a blob like you.

Melvin, a professional gym instructor would never put someone down for their appearance. You resort to this tactic thinking you are showing Keith and are better than him. All it does is show you can be a nasty person when criticized. I don't agree with everything Keith says about you but you do bullshit and exaggerate your qualifications and knowledge.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Melvin, a professional gym instructor would never put someone down for their appearance. You resort to this tactic thinking you are showing Keith and are better than him. All it does is show you can be a nasty person when criticized. I don't agree with everything Keith says about you but you do bullshit and exaggerate your qualifications and knowledge.

My credentials are clearly listed on my website and I have a number of references as well which is the main factor in getting new clients. 

And quite frankly, I'll put anyone insulting me in their rightful place including you and Keith.  Has nothing to do with my profession and you're being a big hypocrite for even making that suggestion

[Vince B]

You have to have some commonsense when it come to ANYTHING Vince. We'll just chalk up that other 10-20% on commonsense.

I respect intelligent people who have vast experience. I respect such people if they have a PhD in exercise science. That person would be an authority. There is no such thing as common sense when it comes to knowledge. There are many false theories, concepts and ideas in the fitness industry and bodybuilding. What I have seen is people copy what others are doing and end up with the same beliefs. It is rare to see independent thinkers in our industry.

The fact that unqualified guys like Goodrum are attracted to this industry is an example of what I dislike. Those charlatans have no clue about what they are doing yet are in business advising others and charging them for that nonsense. At best, we hope they don't do much damage to others. He even boasts he is smart NOT to invest 4 years obtaining a proper degree in exercise science. He probably wouldn't succeed in such a course, anyway, because it is too difficult for him. Listen to this buffoon argue with others as if he is some authority. He is expert in nothing at all.

[Coach is Back!]

I respect intelligent people who have vast experience. I respect such people if they have a PhD in exercise science. That person would be an authority. There is no such thing as common sense when it comes to knowledge. There are many false theories, concepts and ideas in the fitness industry and bodybuilding. What I have seen is people copy what others are doing and end up with the same beliefs. It is rare to see independent thinkers in our industry.

The fact that unqualified guys like Goodrum are attracted to this industry is an example of what I dislike. Those charlatans have no clue about what they are doing yet are in business advising others and charging them for that nonsense. At best, we hope they don't do much damage to others. He even boasts he is smart NOT to invest 4 years obtaining a proper degree in exercise science. He probably wouldn't succeed in such a course, anyway, because it is too difficult for him. Listen to this buffoon argue with others as if he is some authority. He is expert in nothing at all.

I have to disagree, commonsense has to be applied in almost every aspect of life. There are a lot theories that contradict each other, if there were not we would have nothing to debate about. One of the forums I frequent is almost all well regarded S&C coaches, physical therapists Dr's. If a subject comes up regarding protocols for training, rehab or what ever, you might have 10 different answers that agree with one another and 10 different answers that disagree with one another. In a situation like that like you have to use commonsense based on the knowledge you've learned and apply it to practical application.

[Montague]

Common sense is needed for application of knowledge.
The classroom doesn't prepare you for everything you'll ever encounter.
Sensibility is usually needed to reason things out using what you know.

[Montague]

I respect intelligent people who have vast experience. I respect such people if they have a PhD in exercise science. That person would be an authority. There is no such thing as common sense when it comes to knowledge. There are many false theories, concepts and ideas in the fitness industry and bodybuilding. What I have seen is people copy what others are doing and end up with the same beliefs. It is rare to see independent thinkers in our industry.

The fact that unqualified guys like Goodrum are attracted to this industry is an example of what I dislike. Those charlatans have no clue about what they are doing yet are in business advising others and charging them for that nonsense. At best, we hope they don't do much damage to others. He even boasts he is smart NOT to invest 4 years obtaining a proper degree in exercise science. He probably wouldn't succeed in such a course, anyway, because it is too difficult for him. Listen to this buffoon argue with others as if he is some authority. He is expert in nothing at all.

There’s more than one way/place to obtain an education.
Even those learned individuals in academies don’t hold ALL the answers.
I’ve even stumped my one physiology professors with a question that I got answered (and verified) on this board. And he's a Ph.D!

That Coach has made it this far indicates that he is well beyond a cookie cutter online certification buyer.
I don’t know how much any kind of formal education would improve on the one he’s acquired.

Also, if Coach does indeed conduct continual research as he claims, then that also gives him an advantage over some of the academic experts – many of who fail to stay current with evolving information.
Too many "professors" neglect the latest research & discoveries, rendering their knowledge base dated.
They basically stop learning – stopping the very thing that made them superior in the first place.

[HTexan]

It is that 10 to 20 per cent that I worry about. What is the test of truth for those things?

education

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

I respect intelligent people who have vast experience. I respect such people if they have a PhD in exercise science. That person would be an authority. There is no such thing as common sense when it comes to knowledge. There are many false theories, concepts and ideas in the fitness industry and bodybuilding. What I have seen is people copy what others are doing and end up with the same beliefs. It is rare to see independent thinkers in our industry.

The fact that unqualified guys like Goodrum are attracted to this industry is an example of what I dislike. Those charlatans have no clue about what they are doing yet are in business advising others and charging them for that nonsense. At best, we hope they don't do much damage to others. He even boasts he is smart NOT to invest 4 years obtaining a proper degree in exercise science. He probably wouldn't succeed in such a course, anyway, because it is too difficult for him. Listen to this buffoon argue with others as if he is some authority. He is expert in nothing at all.

Basile, if I took you to court for libel, I would win hands down.  Being a qualified trainer doesn't require 4 years in college and obtaining a Master's Degree in Exercise Science.

The deciding authority on qualified personal trainers certainly doesn't fall on you.  If anything is exaggerated its your claim to be a National Bodybuilding Champion when in fact you beat people wearing boxers and socks, no tan, and not even shaving along with huffing down Dianabol like breath mints.  It was proven later on in Australia that it was a joke when you finished LAST in Australia.  Arnold judged the show so obviously he knew that your physique was sub-par

[HTexan]

Basile, if I took you to court for libel, I would win hands down.  Being a qualified trainer doesn't require 4 years in college and obtaining a Master's Degree in Exercise Science.

The deciding authority on qualified personal trainers certainly doesn't fall on you.  If anything is exaggerated its your claim to be a National Bodybuilding Champion when in fact you beat people wearing boxers and socks, no tan, and not even shaving along with huffing down Dianabol like breath mints.  It was proven later on in Australia that it was a joke when you finished LAST in Australia.  Arnold judged the show so obviously he knew that your physique was sub-par

Says the pot.....

[noworries]

Thanks, I was just about to explain that to him along with the fact that if I gave medical advice then I would most likely end up getting sued

People like you don't get sued,  You have NOTHING anyone wants.  Why would you get sued.

Basile, if I took you to court for libel, I would win hands down.  Being a qualified trainer doesn't require 4 years in college and obtaining a Master's Degree in Exercise Science.

The deciding authority on qualified personal trainers certainly doesn't fall on you.  If anything is exaggerated its your claim to be a National Bodybuilding Champion when in fact you beat people wearing boxers and socks, no tan, and not even shaving along with huffing down Dianabol like breath mints.  It was proven later on in Australia that it was a joke when you finished LAST in Australia.  Arnold judged the show so obviously he knew that your physique was sub-par

hahaha you would get laughed out of court you lowlife pathetic moron.  Goodrum you got to see the website dedicated to you,  It is going to be Epic.  Anyone who Googles your name will be sent to the site.  You should see how many people are contributing. 

[Vince B]

Melvin, I guess I never appreciated the level of intense jealousy that resides in your brain. Stop worrying about what I won years ago. Proceed to show the Getbig flotsam and yourself what you can do in local contests where you live. You can only dream about standing on stage with your hand raised in token of victory! I did that 40 years ago. Well, in those days they didn't raise the hands like they do today.

Go to that bank manager who was licking his chops at the prospect of your taking a loan out for business and get a loan to do a college degree. Since exercise science is so easy you might be able to pass. No need to envy me for my achievements in bodybuilding, business and at university. You have a bad case of sour grapes that at the moment is clouding your judgement.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

People like you don't get sued,  You have NOTHING anyone wants.  Why would you get sued.

hahaha you would get laughed out of court you lowlife pathetic moron.  Goodrum you got to see the website dedicated to you,  It is going to be Epic.  Anyone who Googles your name will be sent to the site.  You should see how many people are contributing. 

Dedicating a site to me is only another sign that I'm getting free rent to stay in your head.....

[The Showstoppa]

I bet Vince G can still dunk a basketball.

[dr.chimps]

I bet Vince G can still dunk a basketball.

I'm guessing with those arms a vertical isn't necessary.   

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Melvin, I guess I never appreciated the level of intense jealousy that resides in your brain. Stop worrying about what I won years ago. Proceed to show the Getbig flotsam and yourself what you can do in local contests where you live. You can only dream about standing on stage with your hand raised in token of victory! I did that 40 years ago. Well, in those days they didn't raise the hands like they do today.

Go to that bank manager who was licking his chops at the prospect of your taking a loan out for business and get a loan to do a college degree. Since exercise science is so easy you might be able to pass. No need to envy me for my achievements in bodybuilding, business and at university. You have a bad case of sour grapes that at the moment is clouding your judgement.

No, I simply have observed you and come to the conclusion that you are distraught over not doing anything in the sport that you dedicated yourself to and that you're too old to do anything about it.


Nowhere in the history of bodybuilding will your name come up Basile or your win at the 1970 Mr Canada because it wasn't much. 

Arnold, Zane, Scott, Franco, Draper, Lee Brown, Ken Waller...they are some of the bodybuilders from the 60's and 70's that are talked about.  There is no publications whatsoever that I know of in which your name was ever mentioned or your pictures shown. 

Whine all you like but the fact is that you most likely won't be a footnote in history.  All of those machine you built and no one will ever know you built them.


If you want my advice Basile, I would suggest writing a book or biography about yourself so you're not forgotten instead of wasting time on Getbig because quite frankly....you don't have much time to dick around since you're over 70 years old. 

[Fatpanda]

Melvin, I guess I never appreciated the level of intense jealousy that resides in your brain. Stop worrying about what I won years ago. Proceed to show the Getbig flotsam and yourself what you can do in local contests where you live. You can only dream about standing on stage with your hand raised in token of victory! I did that 40 years ago. Well, in those days they didn't raise the hands like they do today.

Go to that bank manager who was licking his chops at the prospect of your taking a loan out for business and get a loan to do a college degree. Since exercise science is so easy you might be able to pass. No need to envy me for my achievements in bodybuilding, business and at university. You have a bad case of sour grapes that at the moment is clouding your judgement.

vince do you regret cheating your peers out of the mr canada comp by taking dbol while they were natural ?

[The Showstoppa]

I'm guessing with those arms a vertical isn't necessary.   

 

[drkaje]

I bet HR's degree lets him count reps in multiples of two!!!

[jtsunami]

There’s more than one way/place to obtain an education.
Even those learned individuals in academies don’t hold ALL the answers.
I’ve even stumped my one physiology professors with a question that I got answered (and verified) on this board. And he's a Ph.D!

That Coach has made it this far indicates that he is well beyond a cookie cutter online certification buyer.
I don’t know how much any kind of formal education would improve on the one he’s acquired.

Also, if Coach does indeed conduct continual research as he claims, then that also gives him an advantage over some of the academic experts – many of who fail to stay current with evolving information.
Too many "professors" neglect the latest research & discoveries, rendering their knowledge base dated.
They basically stop learning – stopping the very thing that made them superior in the first place.

OH WOW you are special!!  That must mean you are smarter than him, or maybe you just asked such a stupid outlandish question he was caught off guard.  Those who look down upon higher eduction are those who never attempted or dropped out of college.

jt

[Coach is Back!]

OH WOW you are special!!  That must mean you are smarter than him, or maybe you just asked such a stupid outlandish question he was caught off guard.  Those who look down upon higher eduction are those who never attempted or dropped out of college.

jt

Dude, you've made it clear that you're desire in life is to basically sponge of people that are more fortunate that you, so why do you even care about higher education?