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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #25 on: April 11, 2010, 07:47:11 AM »
agree and disagree...obama is a great speaker and would own paul in style and looks...in all other categories paul would destroy obama...fact check the next couple of days after would be hilarious

obamas grasp of the constitution like yours and most liberals is geared toward their agenda as opposed to simply interpreting the document...you guys seem to like to see how you can interpret it to fit your agenda..."general welfare" is all im going to say  ::)

ron paul doesnt do this so again he would own obama in this department as well...

NOW whether this would be evident through the smooth talking of obama and the bumbling of paul is the question...


Bro, I think you nailed it with this post. As much as I love Ron his speaking has been suffering alot more than usual lately. Sometimes he really messes up his message by stammering and losing focus but as far as knowledge on history and the Constitution he destroys Obama.  I think at this point he doesnt care about being president he just wants to offer a real alternative, common sense, voice to the people.

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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2010, 09:32:46 AM »
Obama was not even an associate level professor in con law. 

He got that job as a political payoff and taught one class a semester if that to 2L's on a part time basis.
 

He is no athority on the constituion and more than I am.   

This was another lie and hoax sold and delivered to the moron voters who ate it up without doing any research whatsoever.

what's your source on this?


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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2010, 09:35:10 AM »
Yes straw I do.  Anyone who says we are fatally flawed from ourfounding as a result of not having redistribution of wealth in the constitution and now embarking in policies like maobama is, is intentionally trying collapse the existing system.

I actually feel sorry for you that you truly believe this

have you ever had a serious head injury?

just wondering

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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2010, 10:19:42 AM »
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/was_barack_obama_really_a_constitutional_law.html

Was Barack Obama really a constitutional law professor?


UC Law School statement: The Law School has received many media requests about Barack Obama, especially about his status as "Senior Lecturer." From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School's Senior Lecturers have high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.
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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2010, 10:27:47 AM »
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/was_barack_obama_really_a_constitutional_law.html

Was Barack Obama really a constitutional law professor?


UC Law School statement: The Law School has received many media requests about Barack Obama, especially about his status as "Senior Lecturer." From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School's Senior Lecturers have high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.

I'm  sure 333 will say this is all frabricated as part of Obama's lifelong covert plan to intentionally destroy our country

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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2010, 11:54:28 AM »
He only beat Ron by one vote and this is after he paid for peoples tickets if they were going to vote for him. hahaha



By contrast, Nancy French's Evangelicals for Mitt has been offering around 200 tickets for free, for anyone who wants to come and support Mitt Romney. At the party before Sean Hannity's live taping of his TV show, French's group handed out 800 copies of their man's book, "No Apology," and countless piggy banks.


What a loser.



Ron Paul campaigned pretty hard.  Signs all over the place.  And as the article says, "Paul’s loyal supporters, many of them college-aged, showed up in droves on Saturday to cast ballots before attending the congressman’s speech in the afternoon."  I don't think college-aged voters reflect the views of the majority from either party. 

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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2010, 11:58:18 AM »

Bro, I think you nailed it with this post. As much as I love Ron his speaking has been suffering alot more than usual lately. Sometimes he really messes up his message by stammering and losing focus but as far as knowledge on history and the Constitution he destroys Obama.  I think at this point he doesnt care about being president he just wants to offer a real alternative, common sense, voice to the people.

Correct.  I watched his speech.  Agreed with much of what he had to say, but he looked and sounded very old, lost his train of thought a couple times, mumbled a bit.  When you factor in that he doesn't have a good speaking voice (sounds whiney) and has no presence at all, it doesn't make for a very good presentation. 

Personally, I don't think any of that should matter, but it does. 

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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2010, 11:59:21 AM »
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is this some kind of joke?

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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2010, 12:31:59 PM »
Romney is a complete joke.  Romneycare eliminates him in my book altogether

Romney's stance on health care is the only thing I like about the guy

funny how that worked out

honestly, I don't see why the christians/social issue voters don't like this guy more.

He seems to be a genuine family man with no scandals (that I'm aware of), no mistresses or love children and no toe tapping either

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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2010, 02:25:34 PM »
RomneyCare is bankrupting Mass.

Second of course you love govt regulation, mandates, command and control govt fiat.   

From a libertarian pov Romney is no different than obama but for the color of his skin. 

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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2010, 02:40:13 PM »
Romney SUCKS and if thats who the republicans pick Im voting libertarian.Im not voting for another McCain,Dole,Bush 1 or Bush 2.

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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2010, 02:44:01 PM »
Ill write in 240. 

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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2010, 02:59:14 PM »
Romney SUCKS and if thats who the republicans pick Im voting libertarian.Im not voting for another McCain,Dole,Bush 1 or Bush 2.

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This.

He's a liar as was proven when  a reporter confronted him about his lobbyist ties and he's a man that uses his money to grease people to vote for him. Yeah, those are the qualities we need in our next leader and then expect things to change. He's just another Neocon scumbag.

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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2010, 04:17:42 PM »
Romney will ensure a third party run and obama second term.

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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #39 on: April 11, 2010, 07:42:55 PM »
"I'll write in 240"

LOL... I like toxic's idea of just crapping in the voting booth to show your displeasure with the options :)

I think the smart 2012 repub candidate will promise "I will offer Ron Paul a job on my cabinet as "common sense adviser" - he will have my ear whenever he wants it!"

This would assure a lot of Ron Paul supporters jumping to this candidate.

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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2010, 12:00:08 AM »
Romney will ensure a third party run and obama second term.
For the first time probably EVER, I think Pea Brain is on to something.  :o

We keep "Mormon Mitt" as the inevitable GOP nominee (he's got the square jaw and good looking family, even though he's a solid-gold plated PHONY who will have to backpeddle away from his MA socialized healthcare), and let the disgusted right-wing nutjobs go Libertarian/Tea Bagger as a Third Party alternative. Perhaps the team I support, Palin/Bachmann, will run under the Tea Bagger Party. When these two inevitably cancel and/or destroy each other, Obama calmy walks back into the White House for a second victorious term. Good job boys, that was well done.  ;)

Now thanks for playing, and fuck off.  >:(
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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2010, 05:43:09 AM »

Bro, I think you nailed it with this post. As much as I love Ron his speaking has been suffering alot more than usual lately. Sometimes he really messes up his message by stammering and losing focus but as far as knowledge on history and the Constitution he destroys Obama.  I think at this point he doesnt care about being president he just wants to offer a real alternative, common sense, voice to the people.
I agree I dont think ron paul cares so much about being the face of the movement more so simply getting the movement going...His words dont flow like obamas which is fine if youre actually listening to what he is saying but for those who really dont and simply wait for the applause obama who can pretty much contradict himself in the same sentence but do it eloquently is still going to come out ahead.

but like I said fact check the next 2 or 3 days would be hillarious  ;D

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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2011, 02:32:27 PM »
Interesting outcome.  Still have no idea who their leader is. 

Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
Posted: April 10th, 2010

From CNN Political Producer Peter Hamby

Mitt Romney did not attend the Southern Republican Leadership Conference but still won its 2012 straw poll.

New Orleans (CNN) – Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney defeated Texas Rep. Ron Paul by a single vote in the Southern Republican Leadership Conference’s 2012 straw poll on Saturday.

Romney did not appear at the New Orleans conference, but received 439 votes out of the 1,806 cast by delegates at the conference, held in New Orleans. Paul earned 438 votes.

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich tied for second place with 18 percent of the vote.

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee earned 4 percent, followed by Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and Indiana Rep. Mike Pence, who both captured 3 percent. Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum finished with 2 percent, while former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson came in last with 1 percent.

Conference-goers had predicted that Romney and Paul would compete for the straw poll’s top two spots, as their supporters worked hard to get like-minded delegates to the voting room.

A group called “Evangelicals for Mitt” was a visible presence at the conference, handing out copies of Romney’s new book along with pink piggy banks emblazoned with the slogan, “Elect a president who won’t break the bank.” Paul’s loyal supporters, many of them college-aged, showed up in droves on Saturday to cast ballots before attending the congressman’s speech in the afternoon.

Like most straw polls, Saturday’s results should not be considered a reliable predictor of future success. Former Tennessee Sen. Bill Frist won the last SRLC contest in 2006, but never ran for president. The poll was accurate in 1998, however, when George W. Bush took the top spot two years before winning the White House.

The ballot also lacked several big names. Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, South Dakota Sen. John Thune, Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, Texas Gov. Rick Perry – all of whom have been mentioned as possible 2012 candidates – were not listed.

At least two, Barbour and Perry, asked to have their names kept off the ballot.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/10/romney-wins-presidential-straw-poll-by-a-single-vote/?fbid=54YJ106g8kS#more-98987

He's about as viable as someone like Haley Barbour. 

Used to being an underdog, Santorum bets the house on '12 Iowa caucuses
By Shane D’Aprile   
- 01/18/11 06:04 AM ET

This is the first in a series of profiles on Republicans who may run for president in 2012.

Rick Santorum is used to being an underdog.

In the spring of 1990, Santorum received a fax from his pollster that had a simple message: The upstart conservative didn’t stand a chance of capturing a seat in Congress that year.

The Pennsylvania Republican, who was weighing a challenge to an entrenched incumbent in a Democratic district, was so cash-strapped that pollster Neil Newhouse agreed only to charge him for the cost of the calls.
The results of the poll were so bad that Newhouse didn’t even phone Santorum to relay the news. He faxed the report that showed him with just 6 percent name ID six months out from Election Day.

“He basically said, ‘Rick, I can put anybody’s name on a survey and get 7 or 8 percent,’ ” Santorum recalled. “ ‘That makes you two or three points below nobody.’ ”

That’s not that far a cry from where Santorum stands among the field of potential 2012 presidential hopefuls. He faces a crop of candidates who are better-known and likely to have deep fundraising pockets, and who will command much more press attention.

“It’s been the same in every single race I’ve ever run,” said a smiling Santorum, noting with satisfaction that he won his House race two decades ago in what turned out to be one of the biggest upsets of the cycle. “People underestimate me. Can’t say it’s ever bothered me, though.”

Newhouse eventually ended up as Santorum’s pollster, but in 2012 he’s just another doubter. The veteran strategist has already signed on with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

In a GOP field that, along with Romney, could include former Govs. Sarah Palin (Alaska) and Mike Huckabee (Arkansas) and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (Ga.), the former senator would undoubtedly struggle for elbow room.

But while Santorum can’t come close to challenging the name recognition of that group, he’s already taking his message and in-your-face style to the campaign trail.

Santorum has long been an overachiever. Four years after being elected to the House, he launched a successful bid for the Senate, being sworn in to the upper chamber at the age of 36.

During the 2008 GOP presidential primary, Santorum attracted headlines for saying he would support anyone but Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.). He subsequently backed McCain in the general election and acknowledged that some Republicans told him he should have kept his mouth shut.

At the time, Santorum wrote in an op-ed, “I’ve never been very good at that.”

As for Romney — the candidate he endorsed in the 2008 primary — Santorum doesn’t mince his words.

“I think it’s hard to see a path for him, given the ObamaCare issue,” he said, pointing out similarities between the Massachusetts healthcare plan touted by Romney and the one that was signed into law last year. “It’s just hard for me to see how he gets past that [in a Republican primary].”

Santorum was once among his party’s rising stars, ascending to the No. 3 position in the Republican Senate leadership.

He insists that before he planned his first trip to Iowa for a speech at Dubuque University in 2009, running for president had barely crossed his mind. His claim is believable, considering Santorum was less than three years removed from an 18-point trouncing at the hands of Democrat Bob Casey Jr., which decisively shattered his prominence in the party.

The reception in Iowa was more than Santorum had hoped for, and since then, he’s traveled to the state more times than any other rumored 2012 hopeful.

“I haven’t been discouraged since,” he said.

Any opening for Santorum would have to come from the evangelical conservative wing of the party’s base, particularly in Iowa. A staunch opponent of abortion and gay marriage, if Santorum can find a path to mobilizing and coalescing social conservatives in 2012, he could find a built-in base of support.

Much of that effort, though, is dependent on whether Huckabee, Palin or even Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.) jumps in — all candidacies that would complicate Santorum’s calculus.

Still, Santorum’s message is not that of a one- or two-issue candidate. His time in Congress gives him a firm grasp on a range of matters. During an appearance on Greta Van Susteren’s show on Fox last year, Santorum highlighted the role he played in the passage of welfare reform.

The 52-year-old recoils at the size of the deficit, derisively talks down President Obama’s economic policies and proclaims not a single provision of the healthcare law is worth saving. What riles him most is the president’s worldview, and it’s largely why he’s a good bet to throw his hat in the 2012 ring.

“One of the concerns I have with Obama is that he’s lost focus on who America is,” Santorum said. “Talking about the working class and the middle class: Since when do we have classes in America? There has been this huge moral argument going on here and we’ve just ignored it. We’ve accepted it, and we shouldn’t.”

On economic policy: “Obama’s engaged in a culture war. He’s pitting the rich against the poor.”

On healthcare: “What the president has done — and this is the typical left: ‘We know better, we’ll structure the marketplace, we’ll run it and it’ll be better than if people do it in the private sector.’ It’s a lie. It doesn’t work.”

On immigration: “If you want to come here to work and then send your money back home, I don’t want you. If you want to come here and impose sharia law, stay home. If you want to come here to be an American, then I want you.”

For Santorum, those types of statements are not just red meat for the base — although they work just fine for those purposes, too. He simply believes the country is headed down a disastrous path. That ethos, coupled with his conservative credentials, has Santorum optimistic that Republican primary voters will listen to what he has to say.

As to the thornier question of whether he could actually capture the nomination in 2012, Santorum sounds encouraged enough to want to find out.

“Everything I’ve learned about presidential politics is that you have to do better than they think you’re gonna do,” he said. “If you beat expectations, you go to the next place on the game board. I can tell you, I wouldn’t still be doing this if I wasn’t encouraged by the reception we’ve been getting.”

Next week: Tim Pawlenty

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/138389-santorum-bets-the-house-on-the-12-iowa-caucuses

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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2011, 03:03:26 PM »
2012 is going to be another hold your nose election unless  guy like Trump jumps in there with Christie.   

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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2011, 07:18:50 PM »
2012 is going to be another hold your nose election unless  guy like Trump jumps in there with Christie.   


You're still not liking Newt?

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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2011, 07:22:19 PM »

You're still not liking Newt?

I don't trust Newt anymore. 

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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2011, 08:17:22 PM »
I don't trust Newt anymore. 



But you'll gladly take him over Barry.  :D

I like Newt, I hope he makes a run for it.

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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2011, 09:08:45 PM »
I don't trust Newt anymore. 

LOL!  What year did you trust newt?  What year did he suddenly become non-trustworthy?  When he was banging some chicky on the side while prosecuting clinton for lying about the same thing?

At this point, character probably doesn't matter to voters anymore.  We don't care if newt cheats or Romney had lib policies or Palin ain't that bright... if they'll slow down Obama/dem spending legislation, let's give em the job.

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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2011, 10:09:57 PM »
Could you rightwing idiot fucks PLEASE PLEASE give us a better option...  I will vote for him if you do...

Actually you have a good possible option, Ron Paul, but he's "unelectible" for the right ::)  WHY THE FUCK I DON'T KNOW!!!!

But please, don't try to stick us with some clown that wears magic underwear ::)

The other candidates that make me want to freaking puke:
NO Rudy Giuliani
NO Newt Gingrich
NO Bobby Jindal
NO Lindsey Graham
ASOLUTELY NO JEB BUSH -- I SWEAR TO GOD, YOU FUCKERS BETTER NOT JACK US WITH ANOTHER FUCKING BUSH.  I'M FUCKING DONE IF YOU DO THAT, DONE DONE, OVER WITH, FUCKING TAKING A LONG VACATION... NO MORE FUCKING BUSHS GODDAMNIT... 

If you fuckers even think about Jeb Bush, I'm going to put my full effort into helping Obama get re-elected... puking every day for doing it...  no more fucking Bushs!!!!!!!!  I beg you....

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Re: Romney wins presidential straw poll by a single vote
« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2011, 03:23:51 AM »
Agreed.   I hate the bush crime syndicate. 

I am hoping trump gets in there.