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New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« on: April 11, 2010, 08:54:35 PM »
New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War



The United States of America is preparing for war. This new Treaty proves it. We are preparing for war by capitulating our last strategic advantage to the Russians and Chinese. That would be nuclear missiles. Even worse, we are allowing our future enemies access to onsite inspections. We might as well email them the schematics and locations of our missiles. Just in case they want to launch a first strike against them.

"The new START treaty applies to one category of nuclear weapons — those designed to strike from long distances. For the U.S., that means warheads fitted on intercontinental-range missiles aboard Trident submarines, those fitted on similar missiles stationed in underground launch silos in the Midwest and those carried by two types of bombers: the B-2 and the B-52. The Russian strategic force is weighted more toward land-based weapons than is the U.S. force."  (source)

The United States has about  72,715,332 males that could potentially qualify for military service. Of that number, only 59,413,358 are considered fit enough to serve. Currently, an estimated 1,473,900 are on active duty and 1,458,500 are in the Reserves. (source)

China, on the other hand, has about 7,024,000 in the military and para-military. Russia has 3,796,100. Combined, they outnumber us 10-1. We learned in Korea and Vietnam that we cannot defeat China and Russia through purely conventional means. This is why we maintained the edge we now have with Nuclear weapons. The doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction (M.A.D.) was the only reason the "Cold War" never turned into a "Hot War". Nukes are a deterrant to war.

The problem we have today is that our illustrious Bankers and Politicians have sold our country and its allies into the hands of our enemies in order to bring about their "New World Order". The United States, according to various Illuminati sources, will not be the leading the parade. Neither will Western Europe. The trillions of dollars of debt and derivatives sold to America's enemies will ensure that doesn't happen.

They now own us, and dictate our foreign and domestic policies. This is what happens when you go from the world's largest Creditor Nation to the World's largest Debtor Nation.

Remember, the Senate has to approve all treaties, including this one. There is still time to have contact your Senator and tell him or her that you view this Treaty as another act of Treason against America's best interests. Contact Your Senator HERE

If you live in the country of one of our allies, you should also write them and let them know how you feel. The Russians and Chinese know that we cannot beat them in a conventional war. I believe that they have made this near impossible by spreading our already paper-thin military on numerous "peacekeeping" missions around the globe. Fighting for foreign oil, and control of the narcotics trade, for the benefit of the Illuminazis is truly a "devil's bargain".  In the end we have ended up even more exposed to our enemies.

I now quote from a prophecy allegedly made by George Albert Smith in 1946 (right after WW2):

"Then (LDS) President George Albert Smith said, "I have had a troublesome vision of another great and terrible war that made the war just ended look like a training exercise, and people died like flies. It began at a time when the Soviet Union's military might dwarfed that of the United States, and we, that is the United States, would have missiles that carried an atomic bomb in Europe. I saw the United States, withdraw its missiles to appease the Soviet Union, and then the war began."

He also said that we would have big missiles in deep holes he described like grain silos which the Soviets would try to destroy by their own missiles. They would hit military installations and certain cities also...   He continued that the U.S. would be bound by numerous entangling alliances and would take away weapons owned by the people. He talked some about the initial attack and the ground warfare, but I can't remember enough to document all their tactics and in which countries various things occurred. One tactic, especially in Europe, was to transport thousands of tanks in big trucks like semi trailers on the super highways to have them located where they wanted them when the war was to begin...  Then he said, "The aftermath was dreadful. Think of the worst, most difficult times of the depression." ...That worst time of the depression will seem like a Sunday School picnic when compared with how conditions will be after that great war."

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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2010, 11:49:35 PM »
Where do u get this shit......Russia's military is in shambles....an absolute wreck..hence the treaty to even the playing field. China is too busy making money...maybe when natural resources become scarce. The treaty is bs liberal bullshit but it has nothing to do with their ability to beat us in a conventional fight. We're not invading china ever, or even trying to invade. If we were to go to war over Taiwan, its doubtful that we'd even hit mainland targets besides the ports used to launch troops toward the Island.
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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2010, 05:58:13 AM »
A worthless article devoid of any significant analysis.

And the kicker is that it's capped off with a description from a "vision" that someone had.

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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2010, 06:05:44 AM »
This is SAMSON at his best.... ::)

I wonder if he and The Luke search for bigfoot together.
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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2010, 06:08:26 AM »
This is SAMSON at his best.... ::)

I wonder if he and The Luke search for bigfoot together.
wow, you've been absent to long.  I guess you missed the big battle.  Those two are definitely not going on an outing together lol...

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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2010, 06:31:45 AM »
Yeah...I guess I missed it.
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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2010, 11:12:52 AM »
wow, you've been absent to long.  I guess you missed the big battle.  Those two are definitely not going on an outing together lol...

Sure we are...I invited him to a safari outing...Guess who was the prey was to hunt? :o :o :o

As expected he did not show up.... Musta been tipped off
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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2010, 11:25:49 AM »
Where do u get this shit......Russia's military is in shambles....an absolute wreck..hence the treaty to even the playing field. China is too busy making money...maybe when natural resources become scarce. The treaty is bs liberal bullshit but it has nothing to do with their ability to beat us in a conventional fight. We're not invading china ever, or even trying to invade. If we were to go to war over Taiwan, its doubtful that we'd even hit mainland targets besides the ports used to launch troops toward the Island.

According to you HH6 every nation is a military wreck and government in shambles. Only america in your eyes HAS IT TOGETHER...YEAH RIGHT. I don't want to hurt your feeling, but you are so under educated to what the rest of the world has in its military stockpiles that it is not even funny. Even the Europeans (though they will not mention it) have massive nuclear weaponry. Multiple countries in the Netherlands have admitted recently to having nuclear weapons...something the US had no knowledge of. If European countries, which america is "friendly" with has weapons of which america does not know about...then what  does China, Russia, India etc have...that america does not know about? while these countries may not be outright ENEMIES of america, they do realize and have realized for sometime now that ameriac is ROGUE and will turn on friend or foe at any moment and therefore they must protect themselves. You see now that Korea has nuclear weapons all of a sudden america is not  being so forward and arrogant with that nation any more. As soon as a country gets REAL WEAPONRY ameriac quickly loses its backbone and hikes up its skirt and goes running. Even this illegal attack on Iraq has taken YEARS...WHY? I thought you were a superpower? America is struggling with a small nation with no real military resources. Imagine the same battle with China? American would be a smoking ember by now.

I did not write the article, but it is something to think about insofar as motivation is concerned. I see this "disposal" of weapons as a reason to create new weapons...of course the masses will not be informed that new weaponry is being created...only that former weaponry is being dismantled. Newer stronger more destructive weaponry to fight who? At some point that money spent on that weaponry has to have some end result (meaning usage). Who will it be used against?
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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2010, 12:36:22 AM »
Hey SAMSON as usual u have no idea what the fuck ur talking about. I've done military exercises with most if not all of our military allies including Turkey and the Eastern European countries. I have a pretty good grasp of what most countries can do and can't do militarily because its my fucking job. I'm not a private dude and I don't get my info from the net. The Dutch...u want us to be afraid of the Dutch..a NATO member nation...ur an idiot. As for China.....um we're not facing a conventional war in Iraq or Afghanistan...we smoked the Iraqi army, the 4th largest in the world, in 100 hours of ground combat. In a single battle between a company of M1A1's and a Bn of Iraqi Republican guard tanks...we crushed 126 armored vehicles of mixed T-72 and T-64 tanks. We lost 1 M1 to track damage. That was 91'. We also cut their command and control in a single night. in 2003 we crushed what was left in 3 weeks witha 72 hour stand down dur to a stand storm...I know I was there...where were u? I'm sorry ur life sucks and ur country is 3rd rate...don;t lump us in with ur failure.
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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2010, 01:21:46 AM »
Hey SAMSON as usual u have no idea what the fuck ur talking about. I've done military exercises with most if not all of our military allies including Turkey and the Eastern European countries. I have a pretty good grasp of what most countries can do and can't do militarily because its my fucking job. I'm not a private dude and I don't get my info from the net. The Dutch...u want us to be afraid of the Dutch..a NATO member nation...ur an idiot. As for China.....um we're not facing a conventional war in Iraq or Afghanistan...we smoked the Iraqi army, the 4th largest in the world, in 100 hours of ground combat. In a single battle between a company of M1A1's and a Bn of Iraqi Republican guard tanks...we crushed 126 armored vehicles of mixed T-72 and T-64 tanks. We lost 1 M1 to track damage. That was 91'. We also cut their command and control in a single night. in 2003 we crushed what was left in 3 weeks witha 72 hour stand down dur to a stand storm...I know I was there...where were u? I'm sorry ur life sucks and ur country is 3rd rate...don;t lump us in with ur failure.

I don't know if I would be so bragadocious if I were you.  :-\

Think about it for a minute. Ya, you crushed them, ...after their military was worn out by a long dragged out decade long war with Iran. I mean... if you had spent 15 rounds in the ring with Mike Tyson, ...I'm pretty confident I could kick your ass while you're still punch drunk from the beating Tyson gave you. Then after having gone through a decade long war... their country undergoes a decade long period of global sanctions and an embargo. That's like 15 rounds with Mike Tyson, 10 rounds with George Foreman, getting your pubic hairs plucked one by one... then having to listen to Celine Dion.  :o  By the time she gets to the chorus of "My heart will go one & on" ...you're ripe for getting your clock cleaned by a 5 year old.  :o

So ya... you kicked Iraq's ass, ...but what shape was her military in? What shape was yours in? Personally, I'd be embarrased about bragging about those victories... especially when 'Mission Accomplished' was so long ago. ...but hey, I suppose you're entitled to whatever opinion your handlers give you.  :)
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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2010, 03:07:37 AM »
Look idiot...and I mean that U have zero credibility on this. 16 M1 tanks kicked the shit out of an armored BN...the elite of the Iraqi army, the fourth largest in the world with the latest Soviet hardware....The Iran/Iraq war did nothing but kill alot of Kurds and civilains and trade a few miles of territory..please do ur homework. We ran through them in under 100 hours. The US planned for 50K US dead in the first week..we took about 260 or so. I'ms orry u've done nothing to contribute to history...and ur world view is slanted hard douchbag left...go peddle ur pills.
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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2010, 12:53:58 PM »
Hey SAMSON as usual u have no idea what the fuck ur talking about. I've done military exercises with most if not all of our military allies including Turkey and the Eastern European countries. I have a pretty good grasp of what most countries can do and can't do militarily because its my fucking job. I'm not a private dude and I don't get my info from the net. The Dutch...u want us to be afraid of the Dutch..a NATO member nation...ur an idiot. As for China.....um we're not facing a conventional war in Iraq or Afghanistan...we smoked the Iraqi army, the 4th largest in the world, in 100 hours of ground combat. In a single battle between a company of M1A1's and a Bn of Iraqi Republican guard tanks...we crushed 126 armored vehicles of mixed T-72 and T-64 tanks. We lost 1 M1 to track damage. That was 91'. We also cut their command and control in a single night. in 2003 we crushed what was left in 3 weeks witha 72 hour stand down dur to a stand storm...I know I was there...where were u? I'm sorry ur life sucks and ur country is 3rd rate...don;t lump us in with ur failure.

I said to you many times before HH6 that you are not even worthy to be SHIT AND PISSED on by the military brass in america. Do you honestly think they would tell YOU ANYTHING about their plans regarding war, weaponry, military exercises, etc etc? You would have to be beyond DELUSIONAL to think that you are important, worthy, trustworthy or honest in their eyes so much so that they would say OPENLY what their plans really are. You are as Kissinger said..A dumb piece of meat to do their bidding. You remember that FOREVER...JUST A DUMB PIECE OF MEAT...expendable and replaceable.

What you have witnessed in any country you may have visited is EXACTLY what they want(ed) you to see and experience...nothing more...nothing less. You should see the movie GREEN ZONE to see what I mean. Even higher level officers are CLUELESS as to what is really going on and by the time they find out the US military has moved onto other plans and no longer cares about what is known or unknown. As now with all of the information about what really went on and is going on in Iraq..america does not care now if it is exposed, because they have already accomplished what they wanted and that is to take control of the OIL. Now it is moving on to Afghanistan to continue its reprobate killing and destruction for the sake of OIL AND NATURAL GAS.

I guess you are clueless to this...I am not shocked that you don't know, because as a good soldier your main goal is to remain that DUMB PIECE OF MEAT to do the will of your handlers. Tell me...what is it like knowing you're someone's BITCH??? Worst, what is it like being someone's BITCH and not even knowing all along you are their BITCH???
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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2010, 12:59:36 PM »
I said to you many times before HH6 that you are not even worthy to be SHIT AND PISSED on by the military brass in america. Do you honestly think they would tell YOU ANYTHING about their plans regarding war, weaponry, military exercises, etc etc? You would have to be beyond DELUSIONAL to think that you are important, worthy, trustworthy or honest in their eyes so much so that they would say OPENLY what their plans really are. You are as Kissinger said..A dumb piece of meat to do their bidding. You remember that FOREVER...JUST A DUMB PIECE OF MEAT...expendable and replaceable.

What you have witnessed in any country you may have visited is EXACTLY what they want(ed) you to see and experience...nothing more...nothing less. You should see the movie GREEN ZONE to see what I mean. Even higher level officers are CLUELESS as to what is really going on and by the time they find out the US military has moved onto other plans and no longer cares about what is known or unknown. As now with all of the information about what really went on and is going on in Iraq..america does not care now if it is exposed, because they have already accomplished what they wanted and that is to take control of the OIL. Now it is moving on to Afghanistan to continue its reprobate killing and destruction for the sake of OIL AND NATURAL GAS.

I guess you are clueless to this...I am not shocked that you don't know, because as a good soldier your main goal is to remain that DUMB PIECE OF MEAT to do the will of your handlers. Tell me...what is it like knowing you're someone's BITCH??? Worst, what is it like being someone's BITCH and not even knowing all along you are their BITCH???

if they wont tell someone in the military whats going on why would someone outside the military have more knowledge because they wrote a dumb article? you make no sense and seem very angry

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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2010, 02:41:58 PM »
if they wont tell someone in the military whats going on why would someone outside the military have more knowledge because they wrote a dumb article? you make no sense and seem very angry

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Ummmm..lemme see...because people of high rank are now seeing what has been kept from them, as well as the compartmentalization that the US military/government was/is so famous in keeping secret, is now falling apart and secrets are being revealed. Those who are in the military are never aware of what is happening with their commanding Sargent and those above them. It is the hierarchy that is established in the military and business' in general. For the sake of privacy/secrecy/security no one except those at the very top actually know all of the details of an operation. Those below are clueless...just like HH6 who thinks that anything and everything is known to him (poor fool he is) talks crazily about things he has no clue to in the belief that the military has told him EVERYTHING of importance. He like Kissinger said is just A DUMB PIECE OF MEAT TO DO THEIR BIDDING...until he wakes up to that fact and becomes aware of what the US military and government is really about eh will continue to believe  in tooth fairies and santa claus.
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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2010, 04:34:07 PM »


This is an excellent clip 3. I hope the brain dead HH6 listens to it and realizes america is NOT what it projects itself to be. and so far as what america thinks of its citizens...well lets just say horse manure has more consideration and value than a person. I hope a better understanding has been had by all who listen to this as to the reason for wars, the smoke and mirrors screens/games that are projected to fool the masses into agreeing for war as well as the boring one liners presidents in america use to rial up the masses in general.
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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2010, 08:52:08 AM »
I disagree here, wiping out one of the largest tank armies in the world is nothing to be snuffed at and in such a short period of time.
They where hit from so far away that the tanks could not even see it comming.
In English the Iraqis where out of their league big time.

The present conflict is a COIN war where the Americans are trying to play by the rules and win hearts and minds.
It is more policing than war, a kind of conflict that most combat soldiers hate sorta like Northen Ireland
America has the power to crush this but will loose international support if they are heavy handed.

The only people I have seen who fought this kind of war right was the Siri lankans they kept the press out and took on the Tamils to win and they did.




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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2010, 08:54:37 AM »
I dont agree with everything Celente says, buy he does give decent historical examples which we never should forget. 


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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2010, 10:07:09 AM »
I disagree here, wiping out one of the largest tank armies in the world is nothing to be snuffed at and in such a short period of time.
They where hit from so far away that the tanks could not even see it comming.
In English the Iraqis where out of their league big time.

The present conflict is a COIN war where the Americans are trying to play by the rules and win hearts and minds.
It is more policing than war, a kind of conflict that most combat soldiers hate sorta like Northen Ireland
America has the power to crush this but will loose international support if they are heavy handed.

The only people I have seen who fought this kind of war right was the Siri lankans they kept the press out and took on the Tamils to win and they did.





PP you seem to have conveniently forgotten that america needed the help of many nations to accomplish its goal: European countries, Middle Eastern nations and even Far Eastern and Central and South american nations to "win this war"...Some superpower...more like all mouth and no action. It has been eight years of this now and america is still tussling with a small nation like Iraq. Remember also america only got a foothold in Iraq after it PAID THE IRAQIS NOT TO FIGHT!!!!!...as well as paid and armed the Kurds to kill the Iraqis. There was s splinter group of Saddams government who were paid off to help overthrow Saddam. They operated under the belief that in the end america would just remove Saddam and then turn Iraq over to them...HA HA HA JACKASSES.... After they helped america kill Saddam, america reneged on its agreement and bombed the Iraqi cities killing over 1.5 million innocent people and then jailed and/or killed this splinter group. If you see the movie the GREEN ZONE you can see how this was played out. The knowledge of these deals america was making was exposed some time ago and now it has been put into this movie. The same game of paying off supposed enemies was again exposed recently when america wanted to pay the Taliban to STOP FIGHTING in Afghanistan. Some superpower america is. I guess its motto is IF YOU CAN'T BEAT 'EM...PAY "EM OFF.
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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2010, 10:22:21 AM »
America made many mistakes.
This is what happens when politicians instead of the military is allowed to fight the war.
In fact one of the biggest mistake was dissolving the Iraqi army and Police force after it was defeated hence many of your insurgents.
It should have been allowed once cleansed of undesirables to do its job and America would have been out of there a lot sooner
well IMO

America if "unleashed" can definitely win the war on the ground but they are loosing the propaganda war big time
America main Achilles heal is also its public, public opinion influences everything and it seems to be easily controlled one way or another.
This was how the Vietnam war was also lost, not on the battle ground but at home by doped up hippies and feminsists showing their tits and burning their bras :)

But ultimately is the USA military ever went "Beserk" not much would stand in its way

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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2010, 10:24:07 AM »
this samson character seems to be pretty uninformed

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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2010, 10:56:10 AM »
America made many mistakes.
This is what happens when politicians instead of the military is allowed to fight the war.
In fact one of the biggest mistake was dissolving the Iraqi army and Police force after it was defeated hence many of your insurgents.
It should have been allowed once cleansed of undesirables to do its job and America would have been out of there a lot sooner
well IMO

America if "unleashed" can definitely win the war on the ground but they are loosing the propaganda war big time
America main Achilles heal is also its public, public opinion influences everything and it seems to be easily controlled one way or another.
This was how the Vietnam war was also lost, not on the battle ground but at home by doped up hippies and feminsists showing their tits and burning their bras :)

But ultimately is the USA military ever went "Beserk" not much would stand in its way

What wars have america won? It had its ass handed to it in Vietnam, it was slaughtered in Korea, it had to use nuclear bombs on Japan, it was assbeat in Laos, Thailand and Burma. America entered WWII (which it started) after most of the fighting was over and Germany had over extended itself. In all honesty america has not fought any REAL NATION WITH A REAL ARMY EVER!!!!! Sad as it is this MYTH of superpower has been thrown around forever and yet has never shown itself. Personally I don't look at the killing of INNOCENT PEOPLE as some sign of manhood, superiority, superpower etc etc...it is a sign of COWARDICE. Dropping bombs on communities and the innocent. And remember the war in Iraq was not over 911, the fake Osama, any supposed Al CIAda, etc etc it is and was always over OIL and now that america has divvied up the oil fields between itself and European countries, built embassies, established its own constitution it sees itself as having ACCOMPLISHED it goal of establishing itself in Iraq FOREVER...

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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2010, 10:58:50 AM »
this samson character seems to be pretty uninformed

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Re: New Nuke Treaty and the Coming World War
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2010, 11:00:03 AM »
I am shaking my finger and laughing at you...

i havent been around here long but from reading your posts you are very uninformed

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