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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2010, 10:35:20 AM »
The govt is causing rampant tuition inflation with this nonsense.  

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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2010, 10:37:43 AM »
any statistics showing the change in tuitions over the last five to ten years for public universities? california schools have been pretty stagnant and there was a lot of rage over the recent tution increase

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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2010, 10:40:02 AM »
The govt is causing rampant tuition inflation with this nonsense.  

oh really?

the legislation that just passed has caused rampant tuition inflation?

feel free to show us any proof of that statement

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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2010, 10:43:42 AM »
oh really?

the legislation that just passed has caused rampant tuition inflation?

feel free to show us any proof of that statement

The govts' involvement and guarantees cause inflation.  Geez - Don't they teach economics any more?   

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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2010, 10:49:33 AM »
The govts' involvement and guarantees cause inflation.  Geez - Don't they teach economics any more?   

geez - could you actually show me some proof of your statement?



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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2010, 11:07:09 AM »
Like Eric Massa?

Like Craig, and Foley, and etc.. etc... etc...

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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2010, 11:10:12 AM »
Like Craig, and Foley, and etc.. etc... etc...

Like Blagojevich, Spitzer, Kilpatrick, etc., etc. . . .

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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2010, 11:26:57 AM »
Like Blagojevich, Spitzer, Kilpatrick, etc., etc. . . .

They were gay men?

Or are you just making an irrelevant reply again?

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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2010, 11:30:52 AM »
They were gay men?

Or are you just making an irrelevant reply again?

They were slimeball public officials.  Just correcting the partisan nonsense again. 

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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2010, 11:54:46 AM »
They were slimeball public officials.  Just correcting the partisan nonsense again. 

333 and I were making references to homos.

Now if you want to play the partisan pervert game, I can do that as well.  The list for the Repubs will be longer than the Dems.  Want to go that route?

Otherwise you can try harder to follow suit in regards to the topic discussion of two other people instead of relying on "nonsense".

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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2010, 12:54:33 PM »
Straw, refer to some of Peter Schiff's videos on this topic.
The net effect will be that banks will drop out of student loans.  It will be controlled by the government as this program is implimented.  Government has also decided to increase Pell grants to "disadvantaged students" and disproportionally distribute money to minority colleges.  So...again we have government allocating tax dollars in persuit of their idea of fairness.

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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2010, 01:05:58 PM »
333 and I were making references to homos.

Now if you want to play the partisan pervert game, I can do that as well.  The list for the Repubs will be longer than the Dems.  Want to go that route?

Otherwise you can try harder to follow suit in regards to the topic discussion of two other people instead of relying on "nonsense".

McGreevy, Frank, etc., etc.  Better?  I've already had the discussion about which list is longer.  lol.  That is so stupid.  Don't be such a hack. 

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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2010, 03:05:27 PM »
sounds like now is the time for all you unemployed people to seek work in the medical fields. lots of possibilities!
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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2010, 08:49:00 AM »
McGreevy, Frank, etc., etc.  Better?  I've already had the discussion about which list is longer.  lol.  That is so stupid.  Don't be such a hack. 

You attempted to have a discussion about which list is longer.  If you call running in circles while posting "I am not taking time to look it up to support my claim"... type of posts to be a discussion.  The list now, as it was then, clearly has more Repubs as sexual perverts than the other party.

Last I checked, Frank wasn't in any sexual scandal and had to leave office over it.  Try harder.

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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2010, 01:28:12 PM »
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=9186
http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2009/20090824141933.aspx

I've read both links and both are merely the opinion of right wing think tanks (Cato Institute and the American Enterprise Institute).   

While I agree that availabilty of credit can create an asset bubble (or inflation)  it's a chicken and egg argument (IMO) with regards to student loans for higher education.  How about considering that higher demand (more people want a college education, more demand from overseas students) , higher expenses (think health insurance for one),  can also result in higher costs and with higher costs comes larger portfolios of student loans.

I think it's in the best interest of the country to have a highly educated populace and even from a purely monetary point of view the more education you have the more likely you will have a higher paying job and pay more taxes. 

Personally, I think Repubs really would prefer that people be less educated and that's the real reason they are aga
inst student loan programs.

There have been a few recent studies that show a direct correlation with less education and voting Republican?

We all know that Republicans put party before country so they would have an incentive to want a less educated population.



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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2010, 01:33:08 PM »
I've read both links and both are merely the opinion of right wing think tanks (Cato Institute and the American Enterprise Institute).   

While I agree that availabilty of credit can create an asset bubble (or inflation)  it's a chicken and egg argument (IMO) with regards to student loans for higher education.  How about considering that higher demand (more people want a college education, more demand from overseas students) , higher expenses (think health insurance for one),  can also result in higher costs and with higher costs comes larger portfolios of student loans.

I think it's in the best interest of the country to have a highly educated populace and even from a purely monetary point of view the more education you have the more likely you will have a higher paying job and pay more taxes. 

Personally, I think Repubs really would prefer that people be less educated and that's the real reason they are aga
inst student loan programs.

There have been a few recent studies that show a direct correlation with less education and voting Republican?

We all know that Republicans put party before country so they would have an incentive to want a less educated population.




Right, because the Dems dont do the same thing.   ::)  ::) 

That being said, in my mind, it is simply not healthy for young people to be carrying such huge debt loads in their early 20's like we are doing now. 


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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2010, 01:38:49 PM »
Right, because the Dems dont do the same thing.   ::)  ::) 

That being said, in my mind, it is simply not healthy for young people to be carrying such huge debt loads in their early 20's like we are doing now. 

what "same thing" ?

which party do you think just reformed student loans (hit you can tell by who's happy about and who thinks its another sign of armageddon)

which party do you think Claiborne Pell belonged to?

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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2010, 01:40:32 PM »
If you think either party puts the nation and taxpayers first you are truly delusional. 

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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2010, 01:50:41 PM »
If you think either party puts the nation and taxpayers first you are truly delusional. 

I'd tend to agree but I think the Dems do is much less than the Repubs

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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2010, 01:53:44 PM »
I'd tend to agree but I think the Dems do is much less than the Repubs

I guess that is why we keep fighting over the same two horrible choices. 

You think one is slightly better than the other and I feel the same way.  However, att he end of the day we still get insanity. 

BTW - you did not comment on the Ron Paul thread to where he is tiesd with Obama. 

Would you vote for Ron Paul? 

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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2010, 01:57:41 PM »
I guess that is why we keep fighting over the same two horrible choices. 

You think one is slightly better than the other and I feel the same way.  However, att he end of the day we still get insanity. 

BTW - you did not comment on the Ron Paul thread to where he is tiesd with Obama. 

Would you vote for Ron Paul? 

I can't comment on every thread

no I would most likely not vote for Ron Paul but ultimately it would depend on who else was running

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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2010, 02:01:22 PM »
I can't comment on every thread

no I would most likely not vote for Ron Paul but ultimately it would depend on who else was running

I'm not kidding and meant it to be a serious question.  Is there any Repub you could ever see yourself voting for? 

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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2010, 02:07:57 PM »
I'm not kidding and meant it to be a serious question.  Is there any Repub you could ever see yourself voting for? 

I always look at all candidates in any race and choose the person I like

I don't give a shit what party they are in


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Re: ObamaCare to cause Doctor shortage of 150,000 Doctors within 15 Years.
« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2010, 02:12:05 PM »
I always look at all candidates in any race and choose the person I like

I don't give a shit what party they are in



Have you ever voted for a Repub for perwsident?