Noam Chomsky, "We have never had true Capitalism."

[George Whorewell]

Translation= Even though the premise of this thread is "America has Never had True Capitalism", I cannot answer the question because I lack the ability to do so.

As soon as you answer we can move on to why it precisely is relevant.

Translation: I cannot answer the question that I asked you. However, because the question is irrelevant and I have no idea what I am talking about, I will ask you to answer the question because I am too lazy and lack the intelligence to figure out the answer for myself. When you refuse to answer the question, I will attempt to deflect my obvious incompetence and avoid all relevant issues with respect to this thread.

[Jezebelle]

Translation: I cannot answer the question I asked you- but because the question is irrelevant and I have no idea what I am talking about, I will ask you to answer the question because I am too lazy and lack the intelligence to figure out the answer for myself. When you refuse to answer the question, I will attempt to deflect my obvious incompetence and avoid the relevant issues with respect to this thread.

Of course it is relevant to the argument of why We Never had True Capitalism.  Also, what it WILL do is provide a starting point of when we can measure "True Capitalism" (open to women, minorities etc...) in our society in order to gauge the efficacy of the system.

It would not make sense to gauge the efficacy of "Capitalism" when the majority of its  history has been closed to millions and millions or run by anything remotely resembling capitalistic principles.

So lets agree on a starting point so we can judge the efficacy.

Do you see how this works?

[Soul Crusher]

Of course it is relevant to the argument of why We Never had True Capitalism.  Also, what it WILL do is provide a starting point of when we can measure "True Capitalism" (open to women, minorities etc...) in our society in order to gauge the efficacy of the system.

It would not make sense to gauge the efficacy of "Capitalism" when the majority of its  history has been closed to millions and millions or run by anything remotely capitalistic.

So lets agree on a starting point so we can judge the efficacy.

Do you see how this works?

Sort of like the communists always complaining that Russia never had "true communism"? 

[George Whorewell]

 

First of all your question is totally simplistic. Are we talking about the time in which minorities and women were allowed to take part in the Capitalist system from the time Capitalism actually began, since it became the dominant global force it is today, or since it was proposed as a system in theory? Are we talking about just in America or globally? Are Asians considered minorities or are we just talking about blacks? Would you consider certain groups to be excluded from the capitalist system because their countries followed a different system-- ala monarchy, communism, socialism, military dictatorship, etc.?

Your question is totally open ended and completely off base especially when it comes to women. Domestic relations laws, laws about inheritance, ownership and other factors such as religious and familial traditions/ customs have been the most crucial reasons why women were not on par with men in the free market place. Other important issues have involved civil rights issues (voting rights, education) and hiring practices (labor law). Those things on their own have nothing to do with Capitalism as a system itself. And-- if they did, what is your point exactly? That once we allowed women and blacks into the thick of things, the free market is incapable of sustaining itself? LOL Ok-- if that's your point, I suppose that we have only had true capitalism for about half a century in this country. Things were great up until about 2 years ago. I suppose the only recourse of the free market is to bring back slavery and prevent women from entering the workforce.  

[Slapper]

Noam telling it like it is.

[Bindare_Dundat]

Of course it is relevant to the argument of why We Never had True Capitalism.  Also, what it WILL do is provide a starting point of when we can measure "True Capitalism" (open to women, minorities etc...) in our society in order to gauge the efficacy of the system.

It would not make sense to gauge the efficacy of "Capitalism" when the majority of its  history has been closed to millions and millions or run by anything remotely resembling capitalistic principles.

So lets agree on a starting point so we can judge the efficacy.

Do you see how this works?

Even if the type of capitalism we use today was open to everyone from it`s inception we still wouldnt have true capitalism dummy.

[Jezebelle]

Even if the type of capitalism we use today was open to everyone from it`s inception we still wouldnt have true capitalism dummy.

Now you are starting to realize the point.  Perhaps you can educate the rest of the Paultards and Paulbots now.

[Bindare_Dundat]

Now you are starting to realize the point.  Perhaps you can educate the rest of the Paultards and Paulbots now.

 You are the biggest waste of time on this board. From now on you are on ignore. Idiot.

[Jezebelle]

You are the biggest waste of time on this board. From now on you are on ignore. Idiot.

Self-PWNED!