i'm still trying to get him to hook up with miriam
In the top-right picture...100% hittable. Let's just call it what it is!
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Regarding highly androgenized female bodybuilders, there's no question that self-perception can and does often become skewed over time. But one thing I have always preached is that each woman - and I'm referring both to XX women and XY individuals who identify primarily as women - defines her own femininity. At the same time, it should be obvious that both men and women can exhibit traits that are both masculine and feminine.
Society does not get to say that a fit, firm physique is not 'feminine', but it's reasonable for society to say that a hyper-muscular physique is more masculine than feminine.
BUT - and the numbers will back me up on this - as it turns out, the average male has only 15-20% more upper-body muscle (loosely defined) than the average woman, despite typically having several times the amount of testosterone. That's not a huge difference. So, a woman who trains just a couple of times a week can easily become as muscular as a guy per lb of bodyweight.
Yes, there's a lot more to the overall picture than just muscularity alone, but rarely does a good-looking woman become an unattractive woman (facially) just because of AAS use. If a muscular female bodybuilder's face is unattractive to you, then chances are she would've been unattractive to you before she ever picked up a weight or a needle.
