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Re: This Day In History: Remembering The Patriots
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2010, 12:37:36 PM »

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Re: This Day In History: Remembering The Patriots
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2010, 03:57:20 PM »

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Re: This Day In History: Remembering The Patriots
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2010, 04:36:05 PM »
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Re: This Day In History: Remembering The Patriots
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2010, 04:45:28 PM »
Purge do you think the Davidians were patriots? 
well their murderers sure in the hell were not.

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Re: This Day In History: Remembering The Patriots
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2010, 04:49:01 PM »
well their murderers sure in the hell were not.

The guy raping children, stockpiling weapons, etc. certainly was not.  At least not in my view.   

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Re: This Day In History: Remembering The Patriots
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2010, 04:49:20 PM »


Other parts are all on youtube.

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Re: This Day In History: Remembering The Patriots
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2010, 05:13:46 PM »
Girl, 14, tells of sex abuse
Waco Leader/July 21, 1995
By Hugh Davies in Washington

A FOURTEEN-YEAR OLD girl has helped to demolish the myth that the dead Branch Davidian cult leader David Koresh was a martyr destroyed by a ruthless FBI operation at Waco, Texas, in April 1995.

In evidence to Congress, which is investigating the episode, Kiri Jewel described how the self-proclaimed messiah used the sect as a cover for rape.

Koresh has become a legend in some quarters of America among people who are anxious to portray his death as a government conspiracy. His burnt-out compound, where he apparently shot himself, is a mecca for militias and other groups.

The Oklahoma bombing was timed for the second anniversary of the fire - and the man allegedly responsible, Timothy McVeigh, has said he visited Waco, where a militia group has erected a memorial to Koresh.

Kiri, with her father holding her hand, sat before a roomful of congressmen on Capitol Hill, and gave a dramatic account of the activities of the "prophet" and his "new kingdom".

The teenager said she was five when her mother, who also died in the fire, took her to join Koresh's sect. He was obsessed with the biblical Apocalypse and sex. "David was planning to lead the group to Israel to re-take Jerusalem. He taught that there would be a big battle between the forces of the world and his people."

However, this was a cover for abuse. Koresh used a wooden stick to hit the children. "It was called Kelper."


Kiri said that she slept with Koresh and her mother in one bed. She recalled a childhood friend who, at the age of 14, "has a baby for David".

There was an uneasy silence in the congressional chamber as Kiri began to talk of her first sexual encounter with the cult leader at a motel in Waco when she was 10.


He asked her to sit beside him on a bed. "He kissed me. I just sat there, but he then laid me down," she said. After committing a sex act, he instructed her to take a shower and then read from the Bible. Close to tears, Kiri said: "He sat on the bed and read the Song of Solomon."


Recounting more of her sexual initiation, she said that he used Biblical quotations to explain himself. He told her that, "King David from the Bible would sleep with young virgins to keep him warm."

She said: "I had known this would happen sometime, so I just laid there and stared at the ceiling. I was 10 when this happened."

http://www.rickross.com/reference/waco/waco4.html

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Re: This Day In History: Remembering The Patriots
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2010, 10:23:12 PM »
I think most people remember that.  I don't think it was known, if true when the raid took place.  Plus lol, that's justification for mass murder?  I'm sure they're better off dead lol...

Check out Waco Revelations on youtube.

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Re: This Day In History: Remembering The Patriots
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2010, 11:58:37 PM »
Purge do you think the Davidians were patriots? 

  Yes I do. Sure, they had some twisted interpretations of the Christian faith, but the First Amendment protects that. They also exercised their right to defend themselves from knee-jerk tyrranical government and died for it. I don't believe that David was a child molester just because Janet "Bride Of Frankenstein" Reno said so, but if he did, burning down the entire compound with innocent children in it was hardly the solution.

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Re: This Day In History: Remembering The Patriots
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2010, 04:12:12 AM »
Waco was not justified by the allegations.


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Re: This Day In History: Remembering The Patriots
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2010, 06:28:58 AM »
Girl, 14, tells of sex abuse
Waco Leader/July 21, 1995
By Hugh Davies in Washington

A FOURTEEN-YEAR OLD girl has helped to demolish the myth that the dead Branch Davidian cult leader David Koresh was a martyr destroyed by a ruthless FBI operation at Waco, Texas, in April 1995.

In evidence to Congress, which is investigating the episode, Kiri Jewel described how the self-proclaimed messiah used the sect as a cover for rape.

Koresh has become a legend in some quarters of America among people who are anxious to portray his death as a government conspiracy. His burnt-out compound, where he apparently shot himself, is a mecca for militias and other groups.

The Oklahoma bombing was timed for the second anniversary of the fire - and the man allegedly responsible, Timothy McVeigh, has said he visited Waco, where a militia group has erected a memorial to Koresh.

Kiri, with her father holding her hand, sat before a roomful of congressmen on Capitol Hill, and gave a dramatic account of the activities of the "prophet" and his "new kingdom".

The teenager said she was five when her mother, who also died in the fire, took her to join Koresh's sect. He was obsessed with the biblical Apocalypse and sex. "David was planning to lead the group to Israel to re-take Jerusalem. He taught that there would be a big battle between the forces of the world and his people."

However, this was a cover for abuse. Koresh used a wooden stick to hit the children. "It was called Kelper."


Kiri said that she slept with Koresh and her mother in one bed. She recalled a childhood friend who, at the age of 14, "has a baby for David".

There was an uneasy silence in the congressional chamber as Kiri began to talk of her first sexual encounter with the cult leader at a motel in Waco when she was 10.


He asked her to sit beside him on a bed. "He kissed me. I just sat there, but he then laid me down," she said. After committing a sex act, he instructed her to take a shower and then read from the Bible. Close to tears, Kiri said: "He sat on the bed and read the Song of Solomon."


Recounting more of her sexual initiation, she said that he used Biblical quotations to explain himself. He told her that, "King David from the Bible would sleep with young virgins to keep him warm."

She said: "I had known this would happen sometime, so I just laid there and stared at the ceiling. I was 10 when this happened."

http://www.rickross.com/reference/waco/waco4.html

Koresh walked to town once a week.They could have arrested him anytime.Janet Reno and Bill Clinton decided to have a war with private citiczens and burned 24 kids alive.They should hsave been hung for treason and the murders of innocent Americans!!!!!!!!

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Re: This Day In History: Remembering The Patriots
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2010, 06:30:51 AM »
If I remember, that was way before the internet really took off.  If that happened today, SHTF would be much more likely.

   

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Re: This Day In History: Remembering The Patriots
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2010, 11:33:47 AM »
  Yes I do. Sure, they had some twisted interpretations of the Christian faith, but the First Amendment protects that. They also exercised their right to defend themselves from knee-jerk tyrranical government and died for it. I don't believe that David was a child molester just because Janet "Bride Of Frankenstein" Reno said so, but if he did, burning down the entire compound with innocent children in it was hardly the solution.

The First Amendment doesn't protect illegal activity, like child rape. 

Didn't Koresh and his people either start or contribute to the fire in the compound?