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Did Bush take over GM and Chrysler?Did Bush dictate what CEOs could make?Did Bush take over the health care system?Did Bush try to take over the financial system?Did Bush give billions and billions of our money to filthy unions?Did Bush try to take over the energy industry?I dont recall Bush doing any of that.

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Did Bush take over GM and Chrysler?Did Bush dictate what CEOs could make?Did Bush take over the health care system?Did Bush try to take over the financial system?Did Bush give billions and billions of our money to filthy unions?Did Bush try to take over the energy industry?I dont recall Bush doing any of that.

GM take over??? If you want to believe it's a takeover that's fine but according to this article they are repaying their loan.

GM repays $5.8B in bailout loans - Sacramento Business Journal:

"General Motors Corp. chairman and chief executive Ed Whitacre announced Wednesday morning that GM has paid off $5.8 billion in government loans, with interest, including $4.7 billion to the U.S. government and $1.1 billion to the Canadian government — the balance of billions in loans it had received last year as part of its restructuring.

The initial loans had amounted to $6.7 billion from the U.S. Treasury and $1.3 billion from the Canadian and Ontario governments, among other debt.

GM paid the money years ahead of schedule.

“When GM accepted taxpayer loans last year, we pledged to use those funds to restructure this company, to reinvest in our people and our plants, to create jobs and bring outstanding new vehicles to market,” Whitacre said


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Did Bush take over GM and Chrysler?Did Bush dictate what CEOs could make?Did Bush take over the health care system?Did Bush try to take over the financial system?Did Bush give billions and billions of our money to filthy unions?Did Bush try to take over the energy industry?I dont recall Bush doing any of that.
http://www.propublica.org/special/government-bailouts

Yes.  The Bailout of the Auto Industry happend UNDER BUSH in September 2008!

   Auto Industry   2008   In late September 2008, Congress approved a more than $630 billion spending bill, which included a measure for $25 billion in loans to the auto industry. These low-interest loans are intended to aid the industry in its push to build more fuel-efficient, environmentally-friendly vehicles. The Detroit 3 -- General Motors, Ford and Chrysler -- will be the primary beneficiaries.   $25 billion


Bush also gave us,

Airline Industry   2001   The terrorist attacks of September 11 crippled an already financially troubled industry. To bail out the airlines, President Bush signed into law the Air Transportation Safety and Stabilization Act, which compensated airlines for the mandatory grounding of aircraft after the attacks. The act released $5 billion in compensation and an additional $10 billion in loan guarantees or other federal credit instruments. (What happened after the bailout?)   $18.6 billion
●   Bear Stearns   2008    JP Morgan Chase and the federal government bailed out Bear Stearns when the financial giant neared collapse. JP Morgan purchased Bear Stearns for $236 million; the Federal Reserve provided a $30 billion credit line to ensure the sale could move forward.   $30 billion
●   Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac   2008   On Sep. 7, 2008, Fannie and Freddie were essentially nationalized: placed under the conservatorship of the Federal Housing Finance Agency. Under the terms of the rescue, the Treasury has invested billions to cover the companies' losses. Initially, Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson put a ceiling of $100 billion for investments in each company. In February, Tim Geithner raised it to $200 billion. The money was authorized by the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008.   $400 billion
●   American International Group (A.I.G.)   2008   On four separate occasions, the government has offered aid to AIG to keep it from collapsing, rising from an initial $85 billion credit line from the Federal Reserve to a combined $180 billion effort between the Treasury ($70 billion) and Fed ($110 billion). ($40 billion of the Treasury’s commitment is also included in the TARP total.)   $180 billion
●   Auto Industry   2008   In late September 2008, Congress approved a more than $630 billion spending bill, which included a measure for $25 billion in loans to the auto industry. These low-interest loans are intended to aid the industry in its push to build more fuel-efficient, environmentally-friendly vehicles. The Detroit 3 -- General Motors, Ford and Chrysler -- will be the primary beneficiaries.   $25 billion
●   Troubled Asset Relief Program   2008   In October 2008, Congress passed the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act, which authorized the Treasury Department to spend $700 billion to combat the financial crisis. Treasury has been doling out the money via an alphabet soup of different programs. Here’s our running tally of companies getting TARP funds.   $700 billion
●   Citigroup   2008   Citigroup received a $25 billion investment through the TARP in October and another $20 billion in November. (That $45 billion is also included in the TARP total.) Additional aid has come in the form of government guarantees to limit losses from a $301 billion pool of toxic assets. In addition to the Treasury's $5 billion commitment, the FDIC has committed $10 billion and the Federal Reserve up to about $220 billion.   $280 billion

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BILLY, Bush gave out shitloads of $ to keep companies afloat.  He just didn't have any accountability for it.  Obama is actually saying "If you take this money, they are conditions.  TA listed all the Bush $ handouts. 

I'd prefer companies not need the $.  But if they're gonna require OUR TAX DOLLARS to do it, then I damn sure don't care if CEO pay is limited.  They obviously don't deserve that much $ - if they run the company into bankruptcy. 

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BILLY, Bush gave out shitloads of $ to keep companies afloat.  He just didn't have any accountability for it.  Obama is actually saying "If you take this money, they are conditions.  TA listed all the Bush $ handouts. 

I'd prefer companies not need the $.  But if they're gonna require OUR TAX DOLLARS to do it, then I damn sure don't care if CEO pay is limited.  They obviously don't deserve that much $ - if they run the company into bankruptcy. 

Correct.  Bush led the way and opened the door for this nonsense. 

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and the fact that mccain didn't criticize bush for these no-string handouts, along with his YES Tarp vote - makes me think we'd be seeing the same thing now.

Maybe it would have just been a bunch of small bailouts like Bush did.  I'm adding up all the Bush numbers above - Looks to be over $2.5 or 2.7 trillion easily.  (I'm just adding in my head.

Obama gave a 1-time shot of 787 billion, which will be dispersed slowly.

So really... Repubs get a bunch of little stimulus bills thru one at a time, and immediately disperse the money.  The Dems pass them all at once, then disperse the money slowly.


It's the same thing, really.  Mccain would be spending like a drunken sailor to keep this boat afloat right now also.

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When McCain supported TARP and said the "fundamentals of the economy" were strong, he lost the election right there. 

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McCain didn`t realize the collapse was knocking on the door.

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Props to the very gross joy Behar for pointing this out.

It's good when people realize that whichever party the president is from - he was still going to be issuing all the tax dollars to keep all these companies afloat.

As TA showed above, Bush gave almost 3 TRILLION BUCKS to keep companies afloat, just in that short list.   Repubs didn't vote against it - THEY SUPPORTED IT.  Tea party people didn't march against it.

Suddenly a dem gets in, and lowers their personal income taxes while spending about as much as Bush did... and they're crying "civil war 2!" and "treason!"

It's sad, really.  And 33- I think Romney, Rudy, hilary, Edwards, Huck - ALL OF THEM would be releasing tax dollars to keep the $ afloat, just like Bush, Mccain, and Obama did.

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When McCain supported TARP and said the "fundamentals of the economy" were strong, he lost the election right there

mccain lost the election when he picked the retard for vp :D :D :D :D :D

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Palin also supported the TARP bailout.

As governor and mayor, she also spent a shitload of money.

Wise conservatives like Alan Keyes and our very own 333386 admit she's a RINO now.

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When McCain supported TARP and said the "fundamentals of the economy" were strong, he lost the election right there

mccain lost the election when he picked the retard for vp :D :D :D :D :D

No he didnt and that is simply not true.  

Obama and the MSM kept saying McSame McSame McSame as to economic policies and Obama got a free pass and was elected.  Palin had nothing to do with it.  

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33, I'm liking you more and more when you admit Bush was a spend-happy RINO as well.  makes you a lot more credible on calling out Obama for the spending.


I'm looking at the 2012 candidates... wondering which of them would stop the continual bailouts - or if any of them would do it at all?

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I don't like Joy Behar, but I'm going to have to agree...

Bush slowly killed our country for eight years, and none of these tea bag types said a word.  Suddenly Obama takes over, and continues to "stay the course" and these people come out of the wood work...
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33, I'm liking you more and more when you admit Bush was a spend-happy RINO as well.  makes you a lot more credible on calling out Obama for the spending.


I'm looking at the 2012 candidates... wondering which of them would stop the continual bailouts - or if any of them would do it at all?

240 - I have 25,000 posts and am still waiting for one person to once show me one post defending Bush on almost anything other than Alito, Roberts, and some other small things.  

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33,

were the MSM and Obam wrong when they said "McSame"?

He took the same lib positions as Bush on Economy and TARP.  They both supported Amnesty.

What 2007/2008 positions of Mccain were different from Bush's?  (You can't count what he did in 2001 thru 2005, before he decided to jump in bed with RINO bush).

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I don't like Joy Behar, but I'm going to have to agree...

Bush slowly killed our country for eight years, and none of these tea bag types said a word.  Suddenly Obama takes over, and continues to "stay the course" and these people come out of the wood work...


Its called the boiling frog principle. 

BTW - its was the conservatives that killed amnesty for illegals, dubai ports, harriet meirs, and a few other things. 

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haha i completely forgot about Harriet Myers and the Dubai thing.

Obama is a lib.  Bush was pretty damn lib, especially on the big things.  And clinton was a lib.

Has it really been 20 years since we had a conservative in office?

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I had never really noticed how much the Bush bailouts added up.  Thanks for sharing that, TA.

i guess a bunch of little debts, you don't notice.  When Obama pushes theu 787 billion once, then slowly passe sit out, Repubs scream about that huge number.  But when Bush did it slowly, most of them were quiet.  Props to those who did say something.


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I had never really noticed how much the Bush bailouts added up.  Thanks for sharing that, TA.

i guess a bunch of little debts, you don't notice.  When Obama pushes theu 787 billion once, then slowly passe sit out, Repubs scream about that huge number.  But when Bush did it slowly, most of them were quiet.  Props to those who did say something.



Remember 240 - TARP failed the first time it was voted on as the HOUSE GOP voted against against it.  Remember also, the democrats controlled the house of reps and Pelosi called the house gop members "unpatriotic" for opposing TARP the first time. 

The market tanked after that and they pealed off a few votes to make it pass. 

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Obama and the MSM kept saying McSame McSame McSame as to economic policies and Obama got a free pass and was elected.  Palin had nothing to do with it.  
 
 
msm, is this the msm that you and billy say nobody watches when you site all these polls :D :D :D :D :D :D

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McCain didn`t realize the collapse was knocking on the door.

LOL obama and his chief economic advisor said the same shit 3 months later...did you forget about that?