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Obama’s Own HHS Says Health Care Bill Will Cost More Than Projected
CNSNews.com ^ | April 23, 2010 | Ricardo Alonso Zaldivar


Posted on Friday, April 23, 2010 6:50:20 AM by Man50D
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President Barack Obama's health care overhaul law is getting a mixed verdict in the first comprehensive look by neutral experts: More Americans will be covered, but costs are also going up.

Economic experts at the Health and Human Services Department concluded in a report issued Thursday that the health care remake will achieve Obama's aim of expanding health insurance -- adding 34 million to the coverage rolls.

But the analysis also found that the law falls short of the president's twin goal of controlling runaway costs, raising projected spending by about 1 percent over 10 years. That increase could get bigger, since Medicare cuts in the law may be unrealistic and unsustainable, the report warned.

It's a worrisome assessment for Democrats.

In particular, concerns about Medicare could become a major political liability in the midterm elections. The report projected that Medicare cuts could drive about 15 percent of hospitals and other institutional providers into the red, "possibly jeopardizing access" to care for seniors.

The report from Medicare's Office of the Actuary carried a disclaimer saying it does not represent the official position of the Obama administration. White House officials have repeatedly complained that such analyses have been too pessimistic and lowball the law's potential to achieve savings.

The report acknowledged that some of the cost-control measures in the bill -- Medicare cuts, a tax on high-cost insurance and a commission to seek ongoing Medicare savings -- could help reduce the rate of cost increases beyond 2020. But it held out little hope for progress in the first decade.

"During 2010-2019, however, these effects would be outweighed by the increased costs associated with the expansions of health insurance coverage," wrote Richard S. Foster, Medicare's chief actuary. "Also, the longer-term viability of the Medicare ... reductions is doubtful." Foster's office is responsible for long-range costs estimates.

Republicans said the findings validate their concerns about Obama's 10-year, nearly $1 trillion plan to remake the nation's health care system.

"A trillion dollars gets spent, and it's no surprise -- health care costs are going to go up," said Rep. Dave Camp, R-Mich., a leading Republican on health care issues. Camp added that he's concerned the Medicare cuts will undermine care for seniors.

In a statement, HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius sought to highlight some positive findings for seniors. For example, the report concluded that Medicare monthly premiums would be lower than otherwise expected, due to the spending reductions.

"The Affordable Care Act will improve the health care system for all Americans, and we will continue our work to quickly and carefully implement the new law," the statement said.

Passed by a divided Congress after a year of bitter partisan debate, the law would create new health insurance markets for individuals and small businesses. Starting in 2014, most Americans would be required to carry health insurance except in cases of financial hardship. Tax credits would help many middle-class households pay their premiums, while Medicaid would pick up more low-income people. Insurers would be required to accept all applicants, regardless of their health.

The U.S. spends $2.5 trillion a year on health care, far more per person than any other developed nation, and for results that aren't clearly better when compared to more frugal countries. At the outset of the health care debate last year, Obama held out the hope that by bending the cost curve down, the U.S. could cover all its citizens for about what the nation would spend absent any changes.

The report found that the president's law missed the mark, although not by much. The overhaul will increase national health care spending by $311 billion from 2010-2019, or nine-tenths of 1 percent. To put that in perspective, total health care spending during the decade is estimated to surpass $35 trillion.

Administration officials argue the increase is a bargain price for guaranteeing coverage to 95 percent of Americans. They also point out that the law will decrease the federal deficit by $143 billion over the 10-year period.

The report's most sober assessments concerned Medicare.

In addition to flagging provider cuts as potentially unsustainable, the report projected that reductions in payments to private Medicare Advantage plans would trigger an exodus from the popular alternative. Enrollment would plummet by about 50 percent. Seniors leaving the private plans would still have health insurance under traditional Medicare, but many might face higher out-of-pocket costs.

In another flashing yellow light, the report warned that a new voluntary long-term care insurance program created under the law faces "a very serious risk" of insolvency.


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And yet you morons, dupes, suckers, gullible kneepadders, lemmings, lackeys, and liberals belived Obama when he said it would cut costs/ 

Typical. 

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Three things you can guarantee about Obama's brilliant policies:

1) They will cost more than he says they will.

2) They will NOT work as advertised.

3) People he swears won't get taxed WILL get taxed.


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I'm shocked!  I believed everything Barry was saying...  ::)

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According to guys on here once the public finds out how great this law is democrats will be able to beat republicans over the head with it.Doesnt seem to be working that way.

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240 silverline in 3...2...1...

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I'm killing time in court waiting for a judge to sign a foreclosure order for me and laughing my ass off reading this.  240 care to respomd?

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lol... every govt project in the history of history has cost more than the people promoting it promised.

Of course Obama over-promised.   Of course it's going to cost more.  It's not right, but it's what politicians do.

Is 'reality' silver-lining?  Call it that if you want.  Bush did it with the wars, Obama did it with HealthCare, and Prez Romney will do it with whatever project he likes.  It's what they do fellahs.

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lol... every govt project in the history of history has cost more than the people promoting it promised.

Of course Obama over-promised.   Of course it's going to cost more.  It's not right, but it's what politicians do.

Is 'reality' silver-lining?  Call it that if you want.  Bush did it with the wars, Obama did it with HealthCare, and Prez Romney will do it with whatever project he likes.  It's what they do fellahs.
I knew you wouldnt let me down  ;)

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lol...

it's bullshit when obama spends more than he says he would.

bullshit when bush did it.
bullshit when clinton did it.
bullshit when reagan, bush1 and carter did it.

It was bullshit when Jefferson and Lincoln did it.

So yeah, I'm totally kneepadding for Thomas Jefferson  ;D

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lol...

it's bullshit when obama spends more than he says he would.

bullshit when bush did it.
bullshit when clinton did it.
bullshit when reagan, bush1 and carter did it.

It was bullshit when Jefferson and Lincoln did it.

So yeah, I'm totally kneepadding for Thomas Jefferson  ;D
LMAO I gotta say I think its hillarious that you dont see the difference...you condemned bush for it but say they all do it when obama does it...if you dont see the difference and why youre indeed a knee padder youre more delusional than I thought... ;)

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okay - to be clear so youll be happy - I condemn obama and every single lib who lies about the cost of shit.  I also condemn every single repub who did it and does it.

better?

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Interesting piece.  I guess we won't truly know the cost until we look back in retrospect.  I'm happy to look back and see that everyone is covered and i'm positive changes can be made to ensure this does not get too out of control without compromising the basic human right of care for all.  

I do find it funny to see a republican claiming to be shocked at any cuts to medicare.  The republican party has long been opposed to medicare and medicaid and would love nothing more than to get rid of it.  Yet when it's there to score points they'll pretend it's an issue to them.  I hope people are smart enough to see right through the facade.  
Abandon every hope...

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okay - to be clear so youll be happy - I condemn obama and every single lib who lies about the cost of shit.  I also condemn every single repub who did it and does it.

better?
nope b/c youve knee padded in this thread and will continue to knee pad...

you want it to be better then condemn him like you did and do bush for the same shit dont draw eqvielants and silver line.

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dontcha remember all the bil clinton bashing i did for the last 6 years?

that guy sucked as bad as W

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dontcha remember all the bil clinton bashing i did for the last 6 years?

that guy sucked as bad as W
nope...and even if I did that doesnt excuse you from knee padding for obama  ;)

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Interesting piece.  I guess we won't truly know the cost until we look back in retrospect.  I'm happy to look back and see that everyone is covered and i'm positive changes can be made to ensure this does not get too out of control without compromising the basic human right of care for all.  

I do find it funny to see a republican claiming to be shocked at any cuts to medicare.  The republican party has long been opposed to medicare and medicaid and would love nothing more than to get rid of it.  Yet when it's there to score points they'll pretend it's an issue to them.  I hope people are smart enough to see right through the facade.  

You are right about the Republicans.

But you are absolutely naive if you think the government can put safeguards or cost controls to keep the cost from spiraling out of control. I will go further, when you do look back, I guarantee you won't be happy. Sure, more people will be covered, but you won't be happy about your ever increasing taxes and the decreasing quality in medical services.

If you still look back and you are still happy, then you must be welfare dependent.

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You are right about the Republicans.

But you are absolutely naive if you think the government can put safeguards or cost controls to keep the cost from spiraling out of control. I will go further, when you do look back, I guarantee you won't be happy. Sure, more people will be covered, but you won't be happy about your ever increasing taxes and the decreasing quality in medical services.

If you still look back and you are still happy, then you must be welfare dependent.

I think the government can go a long way to increasing incentives for efficient care.  That is a major way in which costs can be handled.  Unfortunately the American population is become more and more dependent on drugs, medicine and pharma to provide a quality of life they so desire, when the diabetes epidemic hits it's going to be a huge drain on costs to provide treatments for millions of people who in the old system would probably be cut loose or not insured at all long before they were able to drain much of anything.  Preventive care is something that will need to be discussed and many on this board are not in favor of government regulations in regards to diet and exercise but if it increases the quality of life and lessens the burden on health care i think it's a very advisable thing to look at.
Abandon every hope...

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Go take it up with obama.  Its on him now.