Let's make some GetBig History...

[Cardfan]

No one cares about an experiment Adonis , just go over there argue with that fucker and make some  Getbig history.

this shit is so predictable. TA is a pussy. We all know it. Why does anyone waste my time reading this BS? STFU or go you twink.

[Palpatine Q]

TA, why not at least take MS offer to go out there armed with the evidence, debate, then challenge Connelly? At least that way there would be proof of an established "starting" place. I do agree that a calorie is a calorie.

Fuck all of that noise too.....free trip to Cali with accomodations....if TA won't debate...I WILL  

[The True Adonis]

does he think it would be possible for someone with a bmr of 2000 calories to eat 5,000 calories of protein only everyday and still lose weight?

I personally think Mindspin might be misrepresenting Connelly`s position.  At least I hope so, because the above scenario is impossible.

[MindSpin]

I'm still stuck at the office putting out some work related fires (always fun on a Friday  )

TA, you eating what Scott prescribes is hardly a controlled experiment.  You feel so strongly about your principles that I'm sure you have more than simple theory to back them up.  

This is a HUGE opportunity for you.  You'll get to debate a Harvard trained Medical Doctor who has spent 30 years studying human metabolism.  If you do well in the debate, it could very well be your break.  Hell, you can write a book and launch your career.  Call me up buddy...you have nothing to lose.    

[che]

...you have nothing to lose.    

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I agree

[ThaRealist]

I'm still stuck at the office putting out some work related fires (always fun on a Friday  )

TA, you eating what Scott prescribes is hardly a controlled experiment.  You feel so strongly about your principles that I'm sure you have more than simple theory to back them up.  

This is a HUGE opportunity for you.  You'll get to debate a Harvard trained Medical Doctor who has spent 30 years studying human metabolism.  If you do well in the debate, it could very well be your break.  Hell, you can write a book and launch your career.  Call me up buddy...you have nothing to lose.    

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[The True Adonis]

I'm still stuck at the office putting out some work related fires (always fun on a Friday  )

TA, you eating what Scott prescribes is hardly a controlled experiment.  You feel so strongly about your principles that I'm sure you have more than simple theory to back them up.  

This is a HUGE opportunity for you.  You'll get to debate a Harvard trained Medical Doctor who has spent 30 years studying human metabolism.  If you do well in the debate, it could very well be your break.  Hell, you can write a book and launch your career.  Call me up buddy...you have nothing to lose.    

I am not interested in helping sell products or promoting them in any fashion.  I am interested in putting together a controlled experiment that will produce results.  I don`t need any money, nor do I want any.  I am already working on a book, have been for over a year as a hobby in my spare time. (Historical Fiction, who knows if anyone will ever read it or if I will finish, perhaps not).

Obviously Dr. Connelly has some sort of vested interest as he wouldn`t just waste money in the hopes of a viral internet owning.  (I for one, thinks its a brilliant marketing approach and don`t blame him if this is really his idea)

However, there is no way he is correct if he thinks that overall caloric intake does not matter and that I could eat 6000 calories and become ripped.

I personally don`t think he believes this, (at least I hope not, how could he?)and that you may be misrepresenting or misunderstanding what his ideas are comprised of.

[ThaRealist]

I am not interested in helping sell products or promoting them in any fashion.  I am interested in putting together a controlled experiment that will produce results.  I don`t need any money, nor do I want any.  I am already working on a book, have been for over a year as a hobby in my spare time. (Historical Fiction, who knows if anyone will ever read it or if I will finish, perhaps not).

Obviously Dr. Connelly has some sort of vested interest as he wouldn`t just waste money in the hopes of a viral internet owning.  (I for one, thinks its a brilliant marketing approach and don`t blame him if this is really his idea)

However, there is no way he is correct if he thinks that overall caloric intake does not matter and that I could eat 6000 calories and become ripped.

I personally don`t think he believes this, (at least I hope not, how could he?)and that you may be misrepresenting or misunderstanding what his ideas are comprised of.

Whole lotta spinnin goin on, come everybody lets do the spin

[Cardfan]

I am not interested in helping sell products or promoting them in any fashion.  I am interested in putting together a controlled experiment that will produce results.  I don`t need any money, nor do I want any.  I am already working on a book, have been for over a year as a hobby in my spare time. (Historical Fiction, who knows if anyone will ever read it or if I will finish, perhaps not).

Obviously Dr. Connelly has some sort of vested interest as he wouldn`t just waste money in the hopes of a viral internet owning.  (I for one, thinks its a brilliant marketing approach and don`t blame him if this is really his idea)

However, there is no way he is correct if he thinks that overall caloric intake does not matter and that I could eat 6000 calories and become ripped.

I personally don`t think he believes this, (at least I hope not, how could he?)and that you may be misrepresenting or misunderstanding what his ideas are comprised of.

Did I miss something? What money is Dr. Connelly wasting? Having your stupid ass to his home would be free. Hell, you could eat whatever he served {read bottom of the pantry} a calorie is a calorie right. You are a fag for not jumping on this opportunity. STFU pussy.

[MindSpin]

There is NO product being sold here   Connelly plans on changing the way people eat.  The entire dieting industry is based on calorie counting, and that is wrong.  If you disagree, here is your chance to be heard on a much bigger stage.

[ThaRealist]

Adam you wouldn't spam your theory all over this board if you didn't want some recognition for your it..... Take the offer

[The True Adonis]

If I were writing a diet book it would really be only 3 pages long.

Page 1: eat .5-1 gram per lb of bodyweight protein

Page 2: Burn more calories than you consume. Pick a caloric range and reduce if needed.

Page 3. Eat whatever you like and follow rules 1 and 2, by default your nutrition will be more than adequate.

[MindSpin]

So then it's settled.  You're officially turning the offer down after initially accepting it.  Very disappointing.

[The True Adonis]

There is NO product being sold here  Connelly plans on changing the way people eat.  The entire dieting industry is based on calorie counting, and that is wrong.  If you disagree, here is your chance to be heard on a much bigger stage.

At some point Connelly HAS to reduce caloric amount.  How he keeps track of that is up to him.  In my opinion, counting calories, the actual overall food value just makes it VERY simple.

Weight watchers does the same, they just use points to represent caloric amount.  Atkins banks on the fact that you will have a reduced amount given the limited food choices.  Bodybuilding diets are roughly the same, banking on the fact that your caloric level will be limited based on food choice.

I bank on the fact that not only do I meet more than adequate nutritional needs, I do so enjoyably, no restrictions of type of food and with no effort other than counting calories and ensuring I get a little protein.  I don`t really care what I eat (as long as it tastes good  ) since by default I always meet these goals.

[The True Adonis]

So then it's settled.  You're officially turning the offer down after initially accepting it.  Very disappointing.

I still don`t understand what we would actually be debating. The efficacy of my approach?

[Mr. Zimbabwe]

Will the participants in the experiment be allowed to indulge in anabolic steroids?

[The True Adonis]

Will the participants in the experiment be allowed to indulge in anabolic steroids?

If I had it my way to do, No Steroids, No Supplements of any kind.

[disturbia]

Ive seen backpeddling

but now Ive seen BACKPEDDLING

[pellius]

TA has his alibi for not showing "as long as I can bring this guy"

As long as Mind Spin doesn't have to foot the bill. The all expense paid trip was for TA and the lovely Jezebelle not any guest/friends that TA wants to bring. Besides, TA should be able to hold his own alone.

[Cardfan]

If I had it my way to do, No Steroids, No Supplements of any kind.

your way?? fly to Cali and man-up you pussy? Why does anyone take you seriously? You will suck my dick on Main St. and give me half an hour to draw a crowd. homo Ass!

[pellius]

Of course I can and obviously do get ripped continually eating all of the above.  

So let me get this straight, Dr. Connelly believes thats if I were to ingest 6000 calories of his choosing ie his macro profile, I would be able to get insanely shredded without cardio?

I say without cardio as I get shredded without it while eating 2500 or so calories of whatever I want.

How about we do an experiment with me to show just how wrong Connelly is if he really thinks that is what is going to happen.  I would rather PROVE his theory wrong, than debate it.

You can`t argue against established evidence, fact or Proof. (intelligently or correctly at least)

Only as long as protein requirements are met. Simple losing weight is one thing. Losing fat while preserving/gaining muscle is another.

[che]

Only as long as protein requirements are met. Simple losing weight is one thing. Losing fat while preserving/gaining muscle is another.

 QFT , Pellius knows his shit .

[The True Adonis]

Only as long as protein requirements are met. Simple losing weight is one thing. Losing fat while preserving/gaining muscle is another.

Yep and its downright simple to do.  Just follow what I prescribe and its done.  

Do you believe that Dr. Connelly thinks that someone could ingest 6000 calories and become shredded while never being in a caloric deficit?

I don`t think Dr. Connelly really believes that as Mindspin has led us to think so.

[HICKSON]

Obviously Dr. Connelly has some sort of vested interest as he wouldn`t just waste money in the hopes of a viral internet owning.  (I for one, thinks its a brilliant marketing approach and don`t blame him if this is really his idea)

A brilliant marketing approach in talking to an ant on a molehill in South Africa (no dis intended Grant) Your ego is bigger than the universe.

[The True Adonis]

Also, I advocate finding the absolute highest amount of calories you can consume and yet remain in a deficit while dieting.  This is simply accomplished by slow adjustment, perhaps monthly or bi-monthly.

For instance, I am eating 2800 calories day in and day out and am losing 1 lb, every 2 weeks or so.  IF I see a stagnation I will reduce to 2600 calories and sit there for a good few months.  

I find I really don`t have to go below 2400 at all.

In October I raise my calories to about 3000 and keep them there until April.  So you see, its really nothing new and it certainly is something that everyone SHOULD know how to do.  

Its simple, enjoyable, effective and guaranteed to work.