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45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« on: April 27, 2010, 10:22:01 AM »
I've been going to a Gold's for about 3 years.  Just recently I took a new job which is a good distance from my home, so I joined at an LA Fitness near the job, and I switch back and forth depending on my schedule.  What I've found is that the weights at LA Fitness are noticeably heavier.  I'm not talking about machines, as there is always going to be a disparity there, but rather the olympic barbells and plates themselves.  For example, I've been squatting 315lbs pretty regularly over the past 4 months or so, but at LA Fitness, 275 is giving me trouble.  Anyone else notice this?

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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2010, 10:27:12 AM »
Sure. Everything is much lighter in the gym at my University, then in the gym i usually go to. Never understood this.

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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2010, 10:28:43 AM »
Plastic weights vary depending on how much cement is leaking out of them. :D

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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2010, 10:29:17 AM »
Sort of. My weight set at home doesn't weight anywhere close what it should. I was pretty happy with a personal record but I noticed the weights weight almost 10% less than announced and I was sad.  :(

But I'm so fucking happy we have awesome calibrated plates and barbells in almost every gym here. I don't count the lift if it isn't done with calibrated equipment.  :) I have no idea how people are willing to lift with some junk iron.

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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2010, 10:31:35 AM »
Remember, a weight is a unit of measurement where W = m * g.

So depending on the gravitational pull the weight may vary.  I bet if you took those weights from one gym to the other you'd notice a difference.

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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2010, 10:34:39 AM »
This could very well explain Kegdrainer's outrageous claims.
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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2010, 10:37:22 AM »
Remember, a weight is a unit of measurement where W = m * g.

So depending on the gravitational pull the weight may vary.  I bet if you took those weights from one gym to the other you'd notice a difference.

This doesn't really have any substantial affect.  The changes in gravitational acceleration from sea level to the highest mountain on earth and from the equator to the poles are both well under 1%.

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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2010, 10:39:05 AM »
Plastic weights vary depending on how much cement is leaking out of them. :D

We have oldschool russian iron plates at the universitie's gym, and moder high-end swedish ones at my regular gym. IVANKO is my favourite brand by the way :D In one of my old gyms they had them, looked beasty. Good rusty iron :D

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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2010, 10:39:55 AM »
This doesn't really have any substantial affect.  The changes in gravitational acceleration from sea level to the highest mountain on earth and from the equator to the poles are both well under 1%.

1% of 350 pounds is 3.5 pounds.  That is a lot.  Max out your bench then add an extra 3.5 pounds and try again and see how much harder it is.

Anyways.  I was just kidding about the equation thing.

What I find is that plates can vary up to 5 pounds when you look at 45's.  I've weighed a bunch where the scale was anywhere from 40-49 pounds per plate.

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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2010, 10:40:57 AM »
1% of 350 pounds is 3.5 pounds.  That is a lot.  Max out your bench then add an extra 3.5 pounds and try again and see how much harder it is.

Anyways.  I was just kidding about the equation thing.

What I find is that plates can vary up to 5 pounds when you look at 45's.  I've weighed a bunch where the scale was anywhere from 40-49 pounds per plate.

Yes I suppose if you were bench pressing on the top of Mount Everest, it would be 0.5% easier  ::)

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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2010, 10:48:51 AM »
We need Goodrum here to straighten this out.

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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2010, 10:51:35 AM »
We need Goodrum here to straighten this out.

Yes, because Goodrum and straight are like the one and the same  ::)
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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2010, 10:56:27 AM »
Maybe the person who used them before you, used up all the strength up in them .

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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2010, 11:00:53 AM »
Thanks guys...now I have to start questioning whether I really benched that 115 or not!  >:(

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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2010, 11:01:15 AM »
I have a mix of York, Ivanko and Cap plates...the York and Ivanko are pretty bang on...the Cap plates are terrible...like 49 and 42 lb 45's

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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2010, 11:07:24 AM »
heavys heavy brosky dont worry about the weight...

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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2010, 11:16:02 AM »
there is no gravity, the world sucks

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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2010, 11:43:33 AM »
Don`t get caught up on numbers....if it feels heavy,it is heavy!!

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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2010, 11:44:35 AM »
Don`t get caught up on numbers....if it feels heavy,it is heavy!!
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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2010, 12:12:42 PM »
plate that is 45 is 45 question is about the bar, whats the bar weight and also a thinner or thicker bar can make things feel lighter or heavier


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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2010, 12:40:53 PM »
Ivanko and Elieko are calibrated to exact. most of the other ones vary from 42 to 48 lbs. China makes plenty of plates using recycled junk metal that all varies in density. they just fill the mold so the plates are the same size, but end up different weights.

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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2010, 12:42:30 PM »
some guy on another site said he bought what he thought was a 45 lb olympic bar from sports authority, when he weighed it, it was a whopping 31 lbs  [pretty bad in my book. i'd say that is call for a lawsuit.
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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2010, 12:45:59 PM »
I've got a few weights that seem about 10 lbs lighter than the gym when loaded with 225. Hazbin explains it all quite well.

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Re: 45lbs is not 45lbs (weight disparities at different gyms)
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2010, 01:35:05 PM »
Yes. Cheaper weights generally will pretty big swings on the larger plates, sometimes as much as 5lbs wither way. It isn't so bad with smaller plates as you can cast them pretty cheaply and accurately. A lot of the Chinese companies don't replace the molds when they get worn, use poor quality iron, leave casting flaws, etc.... on many plates, especially the large ones.

It was a big deal at many of the 60's-80's power meets as you'd a record attempt would weigh light or rediculously heavy sometimes as much as 20-30lbs. If you look ot pics from that time, you'll actually see the real weight inked on the sides of the various plates. Perhaps if the gym will allow it, you could weigh out your plates also.

Mis-loading one side of a bar by 5-10lbs is a recipe for all sorts of problems like tears, etc... too. So watch those plates.

Iron Grip, Ivanko gray class or better plates, and York machined plates with the milling swirls on the back are all pretty accurate common gym plates, usually only off 1/2-1lb at best, most times.

Also, if your university or gym has quality bumper plates handy, use those. They are the most accurate plates you'll find in most gyms.