Genetics vs All Drugs

[che]

Sadly all drugs will always prevail   .

[~UN_$ung~]

Psst........Psst.........here is a secret, this is free

They are ALL "ALL DRUGS"


flex wheeler was as much all drugs as ronnie, serge nubret was taking the same shit as arnold

you can argue that some guys have better better structures then others do....but that has nothing to do with drugs.....they are all taking lots and lots of them

[Skeletor]

Good genetics+all drugs vs Better Genetics+All drugs

Of course "all drugs" is the finishing touching, merely amounting to 2%

[Kwon]

Flex looked crazy in that pic.

[che]

Psst........Psst.........here is a secret, this is free

They are ALL "ALL DRUGS"


flex wheeler was as much all drugs as ronnie, serge nubret was taking the same shit as arnold

you can argue that some guys have better better structures then others do....but that has nothing to do with drugs.....they are all taking lots and lots of them

When you don't have a good structure you have to up the dosage.

[MadeYaMelt]

When you don't have a good structure you have to up the dosage.

Riiiiiight, if we all took pinned as much as them, we'd be stepping onto the Mr. O stage in no time.     Cmon Che, you know better than that. 

[Skeletor]

When you don't have a good structure you have to up the dosage.

Good structure and small joints doesn't necessarily mean better response to gear

[~UN_$ung~]

When you don't have a good structure you have to up the dosage.

no, you dont

what are you talking about

structure  and ones genetic response to hormones are two COMPLETELY different things

jay cutler doesnt have the best structure, but has an AMAZING response to hormones and weightlifting



you have to up the dosage if your have a poor response to hormones, structure has little to do with it

[che]

Riiiiiight, if we all took pinned as much as them, we'd be stepping onto the Mr. O stage in no time.     Cmon Che, you know better than that. 

I never  said  that , I was  referring to a PRO level.

[SWOLETRAIN]

all the guys you showed have decent genetics even MR O cutler.


All drugs to me is:

Tom prince
Craig Titus
Art Atwood
Markus Rhul
Paul Dillet
Dave Palumbo
King Kamali
Heiko Kallbach
Hidetada Yamagichi
Trey Brewer


Feel free to add the list  

[GroinkTropin]

all the guys you showed have decent genetics even MR O cutler.


All drugs to me is:

Tom prince
Craig Titus
Art Atwood
Markus Rhul
Paul Dillet
Dave Palumbo
King Kamali
Heiko Kallbach
Hidetada Yamagichi
Trey Brewer


Feel free to add the list  

All but the last four had awesome genetics dude. You are delusional.

[benchmstr]

All but the last four fivehad awesome genetics dude. You are delusional.

fixed

bench

[brent2741]

all the guys you showed have decent genetics even MR O cutler.


All drugs to me is:

Tom prince
Craig Titus
Art Atwood
Markus Rhul
Paul Dillet
Dave Palumbo
King Kamali
Heiko Kallbach
Hidetada Yamagichi
Trey Brewer


Feel free to add the list  

jay has great genetics

[dustin]

Kind of a moot point because part of genetics, to me, is your response to drugs.

I've seen local gym rats put newbies on big test, tren and dbol cycles to blow up pinners. Some of them get a little jacked up and lose it when they come off, but I've seen some stay pretty large. I've also seen some just fucking explode and put all the rest of us to shame. They're just using the same drugs that everyone else is too.

But yeah, bodybuilding is all drugs. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fucking tool.

[~UN_$ung~]

all the guys you showed have decent genetics even MR O cutler.


All drugs to me is:

Tom prince
Craig Titus
Art Atwood
Markus Rhul
Paul Dillet
Dave Palumbo
King Kamali
Heiko Kallbach
Hidetada Yamagichi
Trey Brewer


Feel free to add the list  

ONCE AGAIN....THEY ARE ALL ALL DRUGS

take levrone and shawn ray......two of the greatest bodybuilders of all time, with some of the BEST genetics ever


when they go off the drugs.....they look like normal guys

[On_Swole]

I realize that I'm probably going to get lit up for this, but that pic of Flex and Ronnie is from either the '91 USA or '91 Nationals. Whichever it was, Ronnie was natural at that time weighing 220-225.

[On_Swole]

Looks like it was the USA.

[~UN_$ung~]

I realize that I'm probably going to get lit up for this, but that pic of Flex and Ronnie is from either the '91 USA or '91 Nationals. Whichever it was, Ronnie was natural at that time weighing 220-225.

shame on you naivety...

[dyslexic]

They were all lifetime nattys working their way toward MuscleMania shows.

[Ropo]

I realize that I'm probably going to get lit up for this, but that pic of Flex and Ronnie is from either the '91 USA or '91 Nationals. Whichever it was, Ronnie was natural at that time weighing 220-225.

Sorry to say, but Ronnie hasn't been natural after his teenage. He maybe has been in the shows and hasn't been caught in the drug tests, but he was using that's sure. At least 98% of the competitive amateur bodybuilders use drugs, so what is the point to denying the facts.

[Matt C]

Psst........Psst.........here is a secret, this is free

They are ALL "ALL DRUGS"


flex wheeler was as much all drugs as ronnie, serge nubret was taking the same shit as arnold

you can argue that some guys have better better structures then others do....but that has nothing to do with drugs.....they are all taking lots and lots of them

Haha, so true!  Great post. 

[devilsmile]

I realize that I'm probably going to get lit up for this, but that pic of Flex and Ronnie is from either the '91 USA or '91 Nationals. Whichever it was, Ronnie was natural at that time weighing 220-225.

yeah he was sucha tweek and a totally ordinary looking 

[MB_722]

nubret & arnold look the best outta all of them

[devilsmile]

nubret & arnold look the best outta all of them

in my oppinion nubret has a better shape than arnold... he has rounder muscle bellies and I'd say better thickness, arnold looks awesome for a very wide structored bb'er for sure but I think nubret takes the cake... ofcourse arnold had the best face/hair/body combination   (nohomo)

[Smanjh]

in my oppinion nubret has a better shape than arnold... he has rounder muscle bellies and I'd say better thickness, arnold looks awesome for a very wide structored bb'er for sure but I think nubret takes the cake... ofcourse arnold had the best face/hair/body combination   (nohomo)

I would have to agree with that, at least in this picture.

However, guys now sort of look disgusting in comparison.