Author Topic: The $10 Trillion Climate Fraud. Hint - Goldman Sachs loves Cap & Trade.  (Read 1033 times)

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The $10 Trillion Climate Fraud
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Posted 04/28/2010 07:11 PM ET

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Al Gore is co-founder of an investment management firm that is now the fifth-largest shareholder in the Chicago Climate Exchange.

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Cap-And-Trade: While senators froth over Goldman Sachs and derivatives, a climate trading scheme being run out of the Chicago Climate Exchange would make Bernie Madoff blush. Its trail leads to the White House.

Lost in the recent headlines was Al Gore's appearance Monday in Denver at the annual meeting of the Council of Foundations, an association of the nation's philanthropic leaders.

"Time's running out (on climate change)," Gore told them. "We have to get our act together. You have a unique role in getting our act together."

Gore was right that foundations will play a key role in keeping the climate scam alive as evidence of outright climate fraud grows, just as they were critical in the beginning when the Joyce Foundation in 2000 and 2001 provided the seed money to start the Chicago Climate Exchange. It started trading in 2003, and what it trades is, essentially, air. More specifically perhaps, hot air.

The Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX) advertises itself as "North America's only cap-and-trade system for all six greenhouse gases, with global affiliates and projects worldwide." Barack Obama served on the board of the Joyce Foundation from 1994 to 2002 when the CCX startup grants were issued. As president, pushing cap-and-trade is one of his highest priorities. Now isn't that special?

Few Americans have heard of either entity. The Joyce Foundation was originally the financial nest egg of a widow whose family had made millions in the now out-of-favor lumber industry.

After her death, the foundation was run by philanthropists who increasingly dedicated their giving to liberal causes, including gun control, environmentalism and school changes.

Currently, CCX members agree to a voluntary but legally binding agreement to regulate greenhouse gases.

The CCX provides the mechanism in trading the very pollution permits and carbon offsets the administration's cap-and-trade proposals would impose by government mandate.

Thanks to Fox News' Glenn Beck, we have learned a lot about CCX, not the least of which is that its founder, Richard Sandor, says he knew Obama well back in the day when the Joyce Foundation awarded money to the Kellogg Graduate School of Management at Northwestern University, where Sandor was a research professor.

Sandor estimates that climate trading could be "a $10 trillion dollar market." It could very well be, if cap-and-trade measures like Waxman-Markey and Kerry-Boxer are signed into law, making energy prices skyrocket, and as companies buy and sell permits to emit those six "greenhouse" gases.

So lucrative does this market appear, it attracted the attention of London-based Generation Investment Management, which purchased a stake in CCX and is now the fifth-largest shareholder.

As we noted last year, Gore is co-founder of Generation Investment Management, which sells carbon offsets of dubious value that let rich polluters continue to pollute with a clear conscience.

Other founders include former Goldman Sachs partner David Blood, as well as Mark Ferguson and Peter Harris, also of Goldman Sachs. In 2006, CCX received a big boost when another investor bought a 10% stake on the prospect of making a great deal of money for itself. That investor was Goldman Sachs, now under the gun for selling financial instruments it knew were doomed to fail.

The actual mechanism for trading on the exchange was purchased and patented by none other than Franklin Raines, who was CEO of Fannie Mae at the time.

Raines profited handsomely to the tune of some $90 million by buying and bundling bad mortgages that led to the collapse of the American economy. His interest in climate trading is curious until one realizes cap-and-trade would make housing costlier as well.

Amazingly, none of these facts came up at Senate hearings on Goldman Sachs' activities, which may be nothing more than Ross Perot's famous "gorilla dust," meant to distract us from the real issues.

The climate trading scheme being stitched together here will do more damage than Goldman Sachs, AIG and Fannie Mae combined. But it will bring power and money to its architects.

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And you morons think Obama and Dems are trying to "regulate" Wall Street?  GMAFB. 


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oh please, there are issues with a cap and trade system but to compare it to a ponzi scheme is a joke.  are people going to make money off it? of course, that's the reason why it's not just 'cap' so it's more enticing to investors and business.  If some are faster than others well that's their entrepreneurial risk and reward, if others are slow on the uptake then they'll be lost in the dust.  cap and trade is the most capitalism friendly way of stopping the wanton pollution and destruction of our world.   i'm not an al gore fan but if he could see the writing on the wall financially and decided to buy into green tech in a big way good on him.  that's a smart investment move especially when cap and trade system is enacted.  both parties campaigned on it for the presidency so it's not just an obama thing either. 
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So you are ok with this but not the wall streeters gambling on housing derivatives? 

I got it. 

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So you are ok with this but not the wall streeters gambling on housing derivatives? 

I got it. 

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how is this similar in any way?  if it's left unregulated there will be cheats and crooks like with any stock exchange but if it's well regulated and run it offers a great way for small and big business to offset environmental impact. 
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oh please, there are issues with a cap and trade system but to compare it to a ponzi scheme is a joke.  are people going to make money off it? of course, that's the reason why it's not just 'cap' so it's more enticing to investors and business.  If some are faster than others well that's their entrepreneurial risk and reward, if others are slow on the uptake then they'll be lost in the dust.  cap and trade is the most capitalism friendly way of stopping the wanton pollution and destruction of our world.   i'm not an al gore fan but if he could see the writing on the wall financially and decided to buy into green tech in a big way good on him.  that's a smart investment move especially when cap and trade system is enacted.  both parties campaigned on it for the presidency so it's not just an obama thing either. 

So applying value to something that has none and then trading it is ok?  Sorry KC, this is a no go. 

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So applying value to something that has none and then trading it is ok?  Sorry KC, this is a no go. 

it does have value in a cap and trade system.  the basic format for it is companies that overshoot the 'cap' will purchase 'traded' credits for the amount they have overshot the cap.  those credits will come from companies using less than the cap amount and provide a huge incentive for companies to get under the cap yet still provide leeway for those companies trying to go green but taking longer doing it.   
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Yeah and I'm going to win the powerball too. 

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it does have value in a cap and trade system.  the basic format for it is companies that overshoot the 'cap' will purchase 'traded' credits for the amount they have overshot the cap.  those credits will come from companies using less than the cap amount and provide a huge incentive for companies to get under the cap yet still provide leeway for those companies trying to go green but taking longer doing it.   

You lefting wingers are the biggest suckers and most gullible idiots on the planet if you even believe an ounce of that. 

We just went through a massive collapse in the economy due to the Govt promoting housing via the Federal Reserve and allowing Wall Street to sell CDO, CDS, and other derivatives off of housing and now you think its going to end any different when its applied to "climate change"? 

What the hell is wrong with you? 


So wall street is bad when they are betting and selling shit in arewas you dont like, but when they do it in an area you do like, then its great?  WTF man?

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it does have value in a cap and trade system.  the basic format for it is companies that overshoot the 'cap' will purchase 'traded' credits for the amount they have overshot the cap.  those credits will come from companies using less than the cap amount and provide a huge incentive for companies to get under the cap yet still provide leeway for those companies trying to go green but taking longer doing it.   

I'm sure that's what bankers thought when they were dealing with derivatives.  The carbon effect is very overstated and isn't the way to go with our enviromental concerns.

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Anyone who believe this will end any differently than the housing meltdown and its related financial duisasters is beyond stupid, they are dangerous.