Author Topic: What were the founding fathers reasonings behind this? (Read 7582 times)

Wiggs · « **Reply #25 on:** April 30, 2010, 01:46:09 PM »

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tbombz · « **Reply #26 on:** April 30, 2010, 01:46:20 PM »

i look past the fact you didnt mention me as someone with credible input on the subject

im positive that the clause is a preventative measure in defense of their country from foreign invaders.

a "trojan horse" candidate if you will.

the founding fathers probably envisioned some british duke coming over, gaining citizenship, using his royal inheritance to win the americn presidecny campaigning under false pretense...and then turning over the country back o the british

now days we probabl imagine a chinese, muslim, argentenian, north korean.. etc

Wiggs · « **Reply #27 on:** April 30, 2010, 01:48:09 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on April 30, 2010, 01:46:20 PM

i look past the fact you didnt mention me as someone with credible input on the subject

im positive that the clause is a preventative measure in defense of their country from foreign invaders.

a "trojan horse" candidate if you will.

the founding fathers probably envisioned some british duke coming over, gaining citizenship, using his royal inheritance to win the americn presidecny campaigning under false pretense...and then turning over the country back o the british

now days we probabl imagine a chinese, muslim, argentenian, north korean.. etc

I actually did...look down further where I mentioned you and Panda.

tbombz · « **Reply #28 on:** April 30, 2010, 01:53:13 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on April 30, 2010, 01:48:09 PM

I actually I did...look down further where I mentioned you and Panda.

didnt see that

i was just kidding about caring if you mentioned me anyways..

but yeah, that would be the reasoning behind that..

BIG ACH · « **Reply #29 on:** April 30, 2010, 01:56:23 PM »

Last night, Arnold was on Leno. And Leno was asking him who he thinks will be the republican's candidate for presidency, and Arnold said something like "you're only saying this to torture me because you know I can't run since I'm not born here". Leno then asked him if they changed the law, who he run? and Arnold answered "Without a doubt!"

Parker · « **Reply #30 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:00:16 PM »

Tbombz, you are pretty correct. A foreign born citizen is thought to have allegiances to their birth country. Have you ever heard foreign born citizens complaining that "In their country..." or noticed that some Mexican born citizens are very nationalistic, they are not Americans, but still Mexicans.

Eyeball Chambers · « **Reply #31 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:01:28 PM »

Quote from: emn1964 on April 30, 2010, 12:14:36 PM

Sir, you have come to the right place for Consitutional law discussions...

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Wiggs · « **Reply #32 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:03:08 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on April 30, 2010, 01:46:20 PM

i look past the fact you didnt mention me as someone with credible input on the subject

im positive that the clause is a preventative measure in defense of their country from foreign invaders.

a "trojan horse" candidate if you will.

the founding fathers probably envisioned some british duke coming over, gaining citizenship, using his royal inheritance to win the americn presidecny campaigning under false pretense...and then turning over the country back o the british

now days we probabl imagine a chinese, muslim, argentenian, north korean.. etc

Yes but there are too many checks and balances for anyone to do anything crazy. In addition, because religion seems to be the flavor of the month, it would be like Obama going in and putting in Muslims (since right wingers seem to believe he is) and doing damage that way... Point is the President could never really get out of control no matter who he or she is because there are tons of checks and balances. But yes that is what I believe also their original reasons were.

Now there is no reason to not let them run. At least let them have a chance.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #33 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:06:40 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on April 30, 2010, 12:21:13 PM

I understand only a handful of people might be able to intellectually defend or agree and make valid arguments and these I wish to hear from.
So, 240, uberman, Wavelength, Unsung, guys like this that have half a brain? It doesn't matter if you are American or not. Pick a side and defend.

Guys like Chaos in the 80-95 IQ range please get someone to explain what I wrote.

Why do you wish to hear from people who are not even from this country?

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #34 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:08:35 PM »

The only person that I can see on this site that can even remotely answer something like this would be 333386.

tbombz · « **Reply #35 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:09:19 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on April 30, 2010, 02:03:08 PM

Yes but there are too many checks and balances for anyone to do anything crazy. In addition, because religion seems to be the flavor of the month, it would be like Obama going in and putting in Muslims (since right wingers seem to believe he is) and doing damage that way... Point is the President could never really get out of control no matter who he or she is because there are tons of checks and balances. But yes that is what I believe also their original reasons were.

Now there is no reason to not let them run. At least let them have a chance.

If the requirement was repealed then i dont think there would be any problems in the near future with it.

but i do think thta over time, maybe hundreds, or even thousands of years (if life is still here on earth) from now there would be some instance of this occuring....

maybe a big country like the USA gets a "manchurian candidate" elected and he fucks things up pretty bad before they get a handle on things...

or maybe a big country like the USA systematically gets US born patriots into the presidency of every other coutry n the planet and then rules the world..or something similar

.....

whatever may by the event, i do think that history will/would eventually advocate this measure.. its valid

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #36 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:11:33 PM »

Sheriff Joe Arpaio for President

Wiggs · « **Reply #37 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:12:38 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on April 30, 2010, 02:06:40 PM

Why do you wish to hear from people who are not even from this country?

Because the limited intellect of the Americans on this board, I have to outsource to other countries for better talent...I'm sure you understand that being "Publican" and all.
It doesn't matter if they're American, can they not have an opinion because they're not American? Most of the greatest ideas and ideologies come from people NOT American.

You care to weigh on this or are you too xenophobic cause I let none Americans in?

Eyeball Chambers · « **Reply #38 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:13:52 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on April 30, 2010, 02:12:38 PM

Because the limited intellect of the Americans on this board, I have to outsource to other countries for better talent...I'm sure you understand that being "Publican" and all.
It doesn't matter if they're American, can they not have an opinion because they're not American? Most of the greatest ideas and ideologies come from people NOT American.

You care to weigh on this or are you too xenophobic cause I let none Americans in?

I don't know about that...

tbombz · « **Reply #39 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:15:39 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on April 30, 2010, 02:06:40 PM

Why do you wish to hear from people who are not even from this country?

lmao! dude! why do you insist on speaking? do you see the title of this thread?? founding fathers!!! do you know where our founding fathers came from, and their influences ??

dude!! you have zero clue!!! politics isnt a game, this isnt high school, government policy has the potential for extreme good and extreme bad... you really need to rethink this whole thing pal

ThaRealist · « **Reply #40 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:16:02 PM »

I agree, naturalized citizens should be allowed to run for president, BUT only after they have lived in the USA x number of years to qualify for presidential election...

wavelength · « **Reply #41 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:16:38 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on April 30, 2010, 12:21:13 PM

I understand only a handful of people might be able to intellectually defend or agree and make valid arguments and these I wish to hear from.
So, 240, uberman, Wavelength, Unsung, guys like this that have half a brain? It doesn't matter if you are American or not. Pick a side and defend.

Guys like Chaos in the 80-95 IQ range please get someone to explain what I wrote.

LOL

Wiggs · « **Reply #42 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:17:18 PM »

Quote from: Eyeball Chambers on April 30, 2010, 02:13:52 PM

I don't know about that...

Don't kid yourself we've only been around 200+ years. The world wasn't created 200+ years ago.

Wiggs · « **Reply #43 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:17:51 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on April 30, 2010, 02:08:35 PM

The only person that I can see on this site that can even remotely answer something like this would be 333386.

Gee I wonder why?

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #44 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:20:14 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on April 30, 2010, 02:15:39 PM

lmao! dude! why do you insist on speaking? do you see the title of this thread?? founding fathers!!! do you know where our founding fathers came from, and their influences ?? dude!! you have zero clue!!! politics isnt a game, this isnt high school, government policy has the potential for extreme good and extreme bad... you really need to rethink this whole thing pal

Ok "pal". Haha, don't insult my intelligence little man unless you know EXACTLY where I'm coming from. Fucking 19 years old, no job, doesn't pay taxes, depends on parents for survival yet you're an "expert" in everything. You don't even fucking vote (admittedly).

Eyeball Chambers · « **Reply #45 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:20:55 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on April 30, 2010, 02:17:18 PM

Don't kid yourself we've only been around 200+ years. The world wasn't created 200+ years ago.

We didn't invent democracy, we just mastered it.

Wiggs · « **Reply #46 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:22:03 PM »

Quote from: Eyeball Chambers on April 30, 2010, 02:20:55 PM

We didn't invent democracy, we just mastered it.

Look around, we haven't mastered jack shit.

wavelength · « **Reply #47 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:22:11 PM »

I don't think there has ever been a native American president anyway.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #48 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:22:20 PM »

Quote from: ThaRealist on April 30, 2010, 02:16:02 PM

I agree, naturalized citizens should be allowed to run for president, BUT only after they have lived in the USA x number of years to qualify for presidential election...

So do you think Arnold should qualify?

Eyeball Chambers · « **Reply #49 on:** April 30, 2010, 02:23:09 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on April 30, 2010, 02:22:03 PM

Look around, we haven't mastered jack shit.

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