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25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« on: May 07, 2010, 06:06:31 PM »
Didn't the president say we are leaving Iraq?   ???

25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
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The Department of Defense has notified Headquarters 25th Infantry Division that it will deploy to Iraq as part of the next force rotation, the Army Pacific Public Affairs Office said today.
 
Approximately 800 soldiers from Tropic Lightning' division headquarters at Schofield Barracks will replace a redeploying unit.

The deployment will take place sometime at the end of the year and will last for a year.

The deployed headquarters will provide command and control, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance in support of security operations.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20100507/BREAKING01/100507025/25th+Infantry+Division+HQ+to+deploy+to+Iraq+late+this+year
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2010, 06:23:43 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on May 07, 2010, 06:06:31 PM
Didn't the president say we are leaving Iraq?   ???


LOL @ believing a black man when he makes a promise. ;D


Didn't he say he wasn't going to raise taxes?
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2010, 06:26:49 PM »
Quote from: chaos on May 07, 2010, 06:23:43 PM
LOL @ believing a black man when he makes a promise. ;D


Didn't he say he wasn't going to raise taxes?

Except he's white.   :)

Yes he lied about not raising taxes. 

I'm trying to understand this deployment when we're supposed to be leaving (according to Obama). 
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2010, 06:32:56 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on May 07, 2010, 06:26:49 PM
Except he's white.   :)

Yes he lied about not raising taxes. 

I'm trying to understand this deployment when we're supposed to be leaving (according to Obama). 
Only when it's convenient to blame whitey. ;)

He lied, what's to understand?
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2010, 06:39:20 PM »
Quote from: chaos on May 07, 2010, 06:32:56 PM
Only when it's convenient to blame whitey. ;)

He lied, what's to understand?

I don't know.  I know he lied about taxes, because I think he had every intention of raising taxes when he took office.  But this?  I'm not sure if the mission has changed?  The timetable? 

Maybe HH6 knows?
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2010, 08:57:55 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on May 07, 2010, 06:26:49 PM
Except he's white.   :)

Yes he lied about not raising taxes. 

I'm trying to understand this deployment when we're supposed to be leaving (according to Obama). 

Soldier/Units/HQ's are still over there and deployed. So, they still need to be rotated from Iraq to the U.S. and back. The soldiers there just won't stay there indefinitely until we "leave".

It's normal.
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2010, 09:39:16 PM »
Quote from: GigantorX on May 07, 2010, 08:57:55 PM
Soldier/Units/HQ's are still over there and deployed. So, they still need to be rotated from Iraq to the U.S. and back. The soldiers there just won't stay there indefinitely until we "leave".

It's normal.

Here is what he said in his State of the Union speech:

"As a candidate, I promised that I would end this war, and that is what I am doing as President. We will have all of our combat troops out of Iraq by the end of this August. (Applause.) We will support the Iraqi government -- we will support the Iraqi government as they hold elections, and we will continue to partner with the Iraqi people to promote regional peace and prosperity. But make no mistake: This war is ending, and all of our troops are coming home. (Applause.)"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/27/state-of-the-union-2010-full-text-transcript_n_439459.html

He very clearly said "all of our troops are coming home."  Not possible if 800 troops from the 25th ID are going over at the end of the year.  And I'm sure they're not the only group going. 
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2010, 09:47:28 PM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on May 07, 2010, 09:39:16 PM
Here is what he said in his State of the Union speech:

"As a candidate, I promised that I would end this war, and that is what I am doing as President. We will have all of our combat troops out of Iraq by the end of this August. (Applause.) We will support the Iraqi government -- we will support the Iraqi government as they hold elections, and we will continue to partner with the Iraqi people to promote regional peace and prosperity. But make no mistake: This war is ending, and all of our troops are coming home. (Applause.)"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/27/state-of-the-union-2010-full-text-transcript_n_439459.html

He very clearly said "all of our troops are coming home."  Not possible if 800 troops from the 25th ID are going over at the end of the year.  And I'm sure they're not the only group going. 
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2010, 09:54:01 PM »
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2010, 10:18:21 PM »
I don't like obama anymore than the next guy, but he said combat troops.
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2010, 10:32:29 PM »
Quote from: grab an umbrella on May 07, 2010, 10:18:21 PM
I don't like obama anymore than the next guy, but he said combat troops.

"But make no mistake: This war is ending, and all of our troops are coming home. (Applause.)"  I think "all" means everyone. 

In any event, the 25th "deployed headquarters will provide command and control, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance in support of security operations."  Sounds like "combat troops" to me.  Doesn't matter if they're from a support unit.  Kinda hard to do surveillance and recon without being in harm's way. 
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2010, 12:10:49 AM »
25th ID will replace my higher HQ's in USF-N. They will oversee the "advise and assist" BDE's that currently training the IA/IP. My battlespace is currently run by a BDE's worth of stuff..we'll be turning it over to a reinforced BN.
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2010, 12:17:20 AM »
Quote from: headhuntersix on May 08, 2010, 12:10:49 AM
25th ID will replace my higher HQ's in USF-N. They will oversee the "advise and assist" BDE's that currently training the IA/IP. My battlespace is currently run by a BDE's worth of stuff..we'll be turning it over to a reinforced BN.

Thanks.  Are all the infantry, artillery, etc. boys leaving? 
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2010, 12:46:52 AM »
No...FA doesn't do anything artillery. They act as infantry. All the guns are headed home. We'll be replaced by a Stryker BN...
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2010, 12:50:15 AM »
thanks hh6.
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2010, 05:51:24 AM »
We are drawing down to 50K by Aug 31st. Thats a hard date. Our first guys start to leave next week. I'm here till Nov
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2010, 05:56:11 AM »
Good to see you HH6. You seem to have mellowed a bit.  ;) 
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2010, 06:07:27 AM »
Omfg.  Are you freaking me?
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2010, 06:19:08 AM »
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2010, 09:17:55 AM »
Quote from: headhuntersix on May 08, 2010, 05:51:24 AM
We are drawing down to 50K by Aug 31st. Thats a hard date. Our first guys start to leave next week. I'm here till Nov
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2010, 09:48:04 AM »
Quote from: headhuntersix on May 08, 2010, 12:46:52 AM
No...FA doesn't do anything artillery. They act as infantry. All the guns are headed home. We'll be replaced by a Stryker BN...

So the "all of our troops are coming home" statement by Obama was false.  The media should be all over this.   ::)

Be safe. 
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2010, 09:52:16 AM »
I don't see any date or deadline in this statement:

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But make no mistake: This war is ending, and all of our troops are coming home

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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2010, 09:54:10 AM »
 ::)  "We will have all of our combat troops out of Iraq by the end of this August. (Applause.)"
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Re: 25th Infantry Division HQ to deploy to Iraq late this year
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2010, 10:11:37 AM »
Quote from: Beach Bum on May 08, 2010, 09:54:10 AM
::)  "We will have all of our combat troops out of Iraq by the end of this August. (Applause.)"

are the combat troops coming home in August or not?

I'm not clear on that point by HH's statements above
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