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« Reply #50 on: May 12, 2010, 06:59:45 AM »
Though the Arizona immigration law passed, it has not yet gone into effect.

The articles that I posted above are in response to your question:

All a cop in Arizona has to do is confuse an innocent Latino American citizen with a criminal, just like what happened in Seattle.  The cop will then ask for proof of citizenship since this guy looks like a "Fucking Mexican."  If this American citizen happens to have forgotten his wallet at home, or if his wallet just got stolen, the cops won't believe this "Fucking Mexican" and will turn him in to Homeland Security who will detain him for a while and then deport him, just like in the articles that I posted.

Even if the guy is just detained By Homeland Security for a while and then released, he and his family will suffer.  He may lose his job too for disappearing for days without calling.
WRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! again youve shown that you know nothing about this law you are so vehimently against...

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« Reply #51 on: May 12, 2010, 07:14:55 AM »
WRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! again youve shown that you know nothing about this law you are so vehimently against...

I'm wrong?  Really?  Tell me, how am I wrong?

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« Reply #52 on: May 12, 2010, 08:23:00 AM »
scared with good reason???  loco have you ever been to arizona and any of the smaller towns or cities?   99.99999% of law enforcement are latino. Are latinos being racist to other latinos?  I go through this state many times a year. I said what i said because I have seen it for myself and have observed the police along with many other public service in that state, who are latino, not from watching t.v.  like many who assume this is a racist law. Too bad florida isnt doing this same law, and it was the haitians that were the majority that make up the illegal problem. that way all these cry baby ass latinos would see is not just about them.
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« Reply #53 on: May 12, 2010, 09:17:53 AM »
scared with good reason???  loco have you ever been to arizona and any of the smaller towns or cities?   99.99999% of law enforcement are latino. Are latinos being racist to other latinos?  I go through this state many times a year. I said what i said because I have seen it for myself and have observed the police along with many other public service in that state, who are latino, not from watching t.v.  like many who assume this is a racist law. Too bad florida isnt doing this same law, and it was the haitians that were the majority that make up the illegal problem. that way all these cry baby ass latinos would see is not just about them.

99.99999% of law enforcement in Arizona are Latino?  Really?  Got any sources to back that up?  You came up with that figure by eye balling the state?

Two thirds of Arizona's population are Non-Hispanic White Americans, while only one third of the population are Latinos.  So I seriously doubt your figures about Arizona's law enforcement demographics is anywhere close to accurate.

And by the way, only 7.9% of the population in Arizona are estimated to be illegal immigrants.

http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/ACSSAFFFacts?_event=Search&geo_id=&_geoContext=&_street=&_county=&_cityTown=&_state=04000US04&_zip=&_lang=en&_sse=on&pctxt=fph&pgsl=010

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/29/AR2010042904970.html?sid=ST2010042905051

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/How-immigration-crackdowns-backfire-91842259.html

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« Reply #54 on: May 12, 2010, 09:40:16 AM »
99.99999% of law enforcement in Arizona are Latino?  Really?  Got any sources to back that up?  You came up with that figure by eye balling the state?

Two thirds of Arizona's population are Non-Hispanic White Americans, while only one third of the population are Latinos.  So I seriously doubt your figures about Arizona's law enforcement demographics is anywhere close to accurate.

And by the way, only 7.9% of the population in Arizona are estimated to be illegal immigrants.

http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/ACSSAFFFacts?_event=Search&geo_id=&_geoContext=&_street=&_county=&_cityTown=&_state=04000US04&_zip=&_lang=en&_sse=on&pctxt=fph&pgsl=010

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/29/AR2010042904970.html?sid=ST2010042905051

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/How-immigration-crackdowns-backfire-91842259.html


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« Reply #55 on: May 12, 2010, 09:43:30 AM »
I'm wrong?  Really?  Tell me, how am I wrong?
you act as if they take you from your car and deport you if you cant produce papers... ::)

the police as I have heard it report the person to ICE and ICE begins steps to deport...meaning they dont detain you indefinitely until they deport you...you have many opportunities to prove your citizenship

by your logic we shouldnt convict anyone for crimes b/c we do sometimes convict innocent ppl...you dont throw out the entire system, you work to limit the mistakes

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« Reply #56 on: May 12, 2010, 10:25:14 AM »
you act as if they take you from your car and deport you if you cant produce papers... ::)

the police as I have heard it report the person to ICE and ICE begins steps to deport...meaning they dont detain you indefinitely until they deport you...you have many opportunities to prove your citizenship

by your logic we shouldnt convict anyone for crimes b/c we do sometimes convict innocent ppl...you dont throw out the entire system, you work to limit the mistakes

tonymctones,

Please post a link to an official source describing in detail ICE deportation procedure!

You apparently completely ignored the several articles I posted showing that American citizens have been deported.

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« Reply #57 on: May 12, 2010, 10:41:44 AM »
tonymctones,

Please post a link to an official source describing in detail ICE deportation procedure!

You apparently completely ignored the several articles I posted showing that American citizens have been deported.
LMAO Im not debating whether or not american citizens have been accidentally deported from time to time just like you cant deny that innocent citizens have been convicted of crimes they didnt commit from time to time...you think we should stop prosecuting laws too?  ::)

my statement was in regards to your post about this bill and how this bills operates and your misleading BS...

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« Reply #58 on: May 12, 2010, 10:48:02 AM »
LMAO Im not debating whether or not american citizens have been accidentally deported from time to time just like you cant deny that innocent citizens have been convicted of crimes they didnt commit from time to time...you think we should stop prosecuting laws too?  ::)

my statement was in regards to your post about this bill and how this bills operates and your misleading BS...

It happens a lot more often then you think.  Read the articles.  And I am not misleading.  I wish you were right and I was wrong.  I have posted links to sources to back up my concerns.  If I'm wrong, just show me.  You keep saying things like "from what I have heard", "from what I have seen", "the way I understand it."

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« Reply #59 on: May 12, 2010, 10:51:31 AM »
I'm still confused as to how this law is any different than the Federal one on the books.

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« Reply #60 on: May 12, 2010, 10:52:19 AM »
It happens a lot more often then you think.  Read the articles.  And I am not misleading.  I wish you were right and I was wrong.  I have posted links to sources to back up my concerns.  If I'm wrong, just show me.  You keep saying things like "from what I have heard", "from what I have seen", "the way I understand it."
LOL dude when you enforce any law you will always convict ppl who arent guilty, are you for the repeal of all laws or just this one? and why or why not

you have shown where one citizen has been deported by this bill, youre using incidents that used different procedures to prove that this procedure is faulty...do you not see the idiocy of that?

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« Reply #61 on: May 12, 2010, 10:53:46 AM »
I'm still confused as to how this law is any different than the Federal one on the books.
I dont think there is much of a difference now, before the changes I think this bill was a little far reaching and even I said it needed to be tightened up

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« Reply #62 on: May 12, 2010, 11:00:29 AM »
LOL dude when you enforce any law you will always convict ppl who arent guilty, are you for the repeal of all laws or just this one? and why or why not

you have shown where one citizen has been deported by this bill, youre using incidents that used different procedures to prove that this procedure is faulty...do you not see the idiocy of that?

Lot of people have been wrongfully convicted of murder or rape. Maybe we should legalize murder and rape to avoid that happening.

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« Reply #63 on: May 12, 2010, 11:13:05 AM »
Lot of people have been wrongfully convicted of murder or rape. Maybe we should legalize murder and rape to avoid that happening.
Exactly according to loco's logic we should throw out the entire system instead of trying to limit the mistakes...

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« Reply #64 on: May 12, 2010, 11:22:30 AM »
LOL dude when you enforce any law you will always convict ppl who arent guilty, are you for the repeal of all laws or just this one? and why or why not

you have shown where one citizen has been deported by this bill, youre using incidents that used different procedures to prove that this procedure is faulty...do you not see the idiocy of that?

I've shown where one citizen has been deported?  Only one?   ::)  Please go back and read the several articles I posted.

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« Reply #65 on: May 12, 2010, 11:33:06 AM »
I've shown where one citizen has been deported?  Only one?   ::)  Please go back and read the several articles I posted.

A lot of people have been falsely convicted of crimes like rape and murder. Should rape and murder be legalized to prevent this?

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« Reply #66 on: May 12, 2010, 11:46:05 AM »
How is an American citizen in the US illegal?
They're not. If you are legal, you have nothing to worry about. This is the same BS we heard when Bush passed the Patriot Act. They will listen to our phone calls, waa waa waaaaaa... No, unless you are calling Osama Bin Laden, then you have nothing to worry about.

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« Reply #67 on: May 12, 2010, 11:48:29 AM »
A lot of people have been falsely convicted of crimes like rape and murder. Should rape and murder be legalized to prevent this?

Those laws don't target Latinos.

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« Reply #68 on: May 12, 2010, 11:49:11 AM »
I've shown where one citizen has been deported?  Only one?   ::)  Please go back and read the several articles I posted.
im sorry it was a typo i meant to say that you havent shown where one person has been deported using this law and its procedures...youve shown how other procedures have accidentally deported ppl but again all laws convict innocent ppl from time to time, you DO NOT SCRAP THE ENTIRE SYSTEM, YOU TRY TO MINIMIZE THE MISTAKES...

you cant point to failures in other procedures to condemn this bills procedure b/c they are different PROCEDURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #69 on: May 12, 2010, 11:50:27 AM »
Those laws don't target Latinos.
youre right they target murders and rapists...just like this bill targets illegal immigrants

blacks could say that murder laws target blacks since the majority of murders are commited by blacks but that wouldnt make it true...JUST LIKE YOUR STATEMENTS!!!!!!!!! ;)

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« Reply #70 on: May 12, 2010, 11:51:39 AM »
Those laws don't target Latinos.

You didn't answer my question. I'll ask again. A lot of people are falsely convicted of rape and murder. Should rape and murder be legalized to prevent this?

By the way, saying that those laws don't target latinos implies that latinos are more important than American citizens. Not that I didn't already know you thought that. ;)

im sorry it was a typo i meant to say that you havent shown where one person has been deported using this law and its procedures...youve shown how other procedures have accidentally deported ppl but again all laws convict innocent ppl from time to time, you DO NOT SCRAP THE ENTIRE SYSTEM, YOU TRY TO MINIMIZE THE MISTAKES...

you cant point to failures in other procedures to condemn this bills procedure b/c they are different PROCEDURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He just argued that a few incidents of American citizens being kidnapped due to mistaken identity or whatever isn't a problem yet a few incidents of Americans being mistakenly deported is. What a pathetic double standard.

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« Reply #71 on: May 12, 2010, 11:55:25 AM »
im sorry it was a typo i meant to say that you havent shown where one person has been deported using this law and its procedures...youve shown how other procedures have accidentally deported ppl but again all laws convict innocent ppl from time to time, you DO NOT SCRAP THE ENTIRE SYSTEM, YOU TRY TO MINIMIZE THE MISTAKES...

you cant point to failures in other procedures to condemn this bills procedure b/c they are different PROCEDURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This new law hasn't gone into effect yet.  According to you, if a cop has reasonable suspicion that an American citizen is an illegal immigrant, and asks him for paper, and he doesn't have papers on him, the cop will turn him in to ICE.  At that point, ICE follows the same detention and deportation procedures that got all these other American citizens deported.  Only difference is that now it will happen much more often once the cops start to enforce this new law.

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« Reply #72 on: May 12, 2010, 11:58:06 AM »
This new law hasn't gone into effect yet.  According to you, if a cop has reasonable suspicion that an American citizen is an illegal immigrant, and asks him for paper, and he doesn't have papers on him, the cop will turn him in to ICE.  At that point, ICE follows the same detention and deportation procedures that got all these other American citizens deported.  Only difference is that now it will happen much more often once the cops start to enforce this new law.
again its "probable cause" not reasonable suspicion try to keep up with the facts...

they have mutiple opportunities to prove they are citizens its not like they throw you over the border the instant you cant prove it

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« Reply #73 on: May 12, 2010, 11:59:15 AM »
youre right they target murders and rapists...just like this bill targets illegal immigrants

blacks could say that murder laws target blacks since the majority of murders are commited by blacks but that wouldnt make it true...JUST LIKE YOUR STATEMENTS!!!!!!!!! ;)
I would really like you to understand this statement loco...

why do yo think that this bill targets latinos?

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« Reply #74 on: May 12, 2010, 12:00:09 PM »
You didn't answer my question. I'll ask again. A lot of people are falsely convicted of rape and murder. Should rape and murder be legalized to prevent this?

By the way, saying that those laws don't target latinos implies that latinos are more important than American citizens. Not that I didn't already know you thought that. ;)

No, rape and murder should not be legalized to prevent that.  The system and laws need to be improved to prevent this.  It doesn't justify passing new laws that target a certain race or ethnic group.

Latino American citizens are American citizens.    ::)

He just argued that a few incidents of American citizens being kidnapped due to mistaken identity or whatever isn't a problem yet a few incidents of Americans being mistakenly deported is. What a pathetic double standard.

I never said the kidnappings of American citizens, or anybody for that matter, is not a problem.  I said one American citizen accidentally being kidnapped does not justify passing new laws that target a certain race or ethnic group of American citizens.