I did my first cycle with sust and dbol. Never bothered with PCT and gained 50lbs of mass. I'd say 3/4 of it was muscle. Came off cold turkey and although I lost weight never had any problems with libido, gyno etc. In fact after a handful of cycles I never used PCT. Now that I'm older though I hate the bloat and the water retention (causes high BP) so I'll use adex throughout my cycles from now on. Also I'll end my cycles with a dose of HCG for a few weeks. But in my early 20's. Never used any of it. I think you're best off just using good old test at 500mg a week twice a week. Prop if you can stand the injections. I wouldn't worry too much about PCT if you're youngn in your 20s. Some of the sides of HCG and clomid etc. are worse than the benefits and just prolong recovery. Just depends on how you respond and react to the steroids.