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Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« on: May 11, 2010, 07:49:26 AM »
Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring
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By Joe Davidson and Ed O'Keefe
Tuesday, May 11, 2010; A01

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If you've spent months trying to get a job with the federal government, things are about to get easier.

President Obama plans to instruct federal agencies to radically overhaul the process now used to hire government workers. The change is expected to cut in half the time it takes to fill vacancies and allow the government to better compete with the private sector for top talent.

It's been a long time coming. The Government Accountability Office has been calling for changes since 2001, and a host of outside voices have criticized the byzantine nature of federal hiring, with its stacks of paperwork and endless rounds of interviews that can keep an applicant hanging for months.

"You want to pull your hair out, you want to scream, you want to shout," said Stephanie Jones, 32, of Hyattsville, who lamented that she is only "killing trees" with her 75 federal job applications over the past three years.

David T. Ellwood, dean of Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government, describes it as a "19th-century hiring system" in which applications disappear into a "black hole." The process, "even at the best of times," he added, "can take nine months or a year."

Those seeking federal jobs apply through the USAjobs.gov Web site, which categorizes available positions by city and type. They must write essays, known as KSAs, that assess their knowledge, skills and abilities. Once the KSAs are submitted, a response can take months, if applicants get one at all.

Obama's plan, to be announced Tuesday morning, would cut hiring time to about 80 days from the date a vacancy is announced to the point a candidate is hired. In some agencies, it can take up to 200 days to process a hire, and 140 days is not uncommon.

The time lag is considered a big deterrent for workers like Jamie Doyle, 30, who are interested in bringing their skills to government but can't afford to wait months for their applications to be considered.

Doyle, of Philadelphia, said she gave up on government work because of the slow process. She received job offers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics and a national security agency, but they came long after she had accepted a position with a private institute.

"The president is committing the power of his office to the importance of this issue, which is trying to streamline our hiring process," said John Berry, director of the Office of Personnel Management.

Although some government managers may like the current process because it weeds out certain applicants, calls for a hiring overhaul have come from across the spectrum, including unions, good-government groups, Democrats and Republicans.

The changes ordered by Obama would be obvious to an applicant from the beginning of the process. The dreaded KSAs would be dropped in favor of a system in which applicants submit résumés and fill out applications, as they do when applying for jobs in the private sector.

Departments within agencies would also switch to a new system known as "category hiring." Under this plan, after the Army has screened candidates and hired an accountant, for example, the Navy also could hire from the Army's list. Currently, the Army picks from the top three candidates and the others must start the process anew, even for a similar position with a different agency in the same department.

Allowing "category hiring" to extend across departmental lines also is under consideration, but Berry said it would take legislation to implement that.

Obama also wants to get managers more involved in the process of deciding on new hires, rather than leaving the final approval to an agency's personnel office.

"The most important part of the process is the final interview," Berry said. "Those interviews really can't be done by HR professionals. They need to be done by hiring managers that are the closest to the job."

Agencies also will be required to tell applicants where they stand at four points in the process: when their application is received, when the applicant is deemed qualified or not, when the applicant is referred for an interview or not, and when the person is selected or not.

The changes are important not just for the mental health of job seekers, officials noted. They also will cut hiring costs and save taxpayer money.

"We need to make sure that every taxpayer dollar counts," said Jeffrey Zients, the administration's chief performance officer. "So there's a real urgency to improving the performance of government. . . . It is clear that the major component for improving performance is people."

The government has been fretting for years about the impending brain drain as the baby boomer generation retires. The GAO labeled hiring a high-risk area in a 2001 report and followed it up two years later with a study criticizing "inefficient or ineffective practices, including . . . unclear job announcements, the quality of certain applicant assessment tools [and] time-consuming panels to evaluate applicants."

The president has placed Berry and Zients in charge of the revamping, which is expected to take six months.

Applicants like Lisa Alfred, 46, said change would be welcomed. She applied for at least 20 federal jobs, but only one agency responded to her application.

"There are a lot of people out here hurting, and if there are jobs, we certainly want a crack at them," Alfred said. "Economically, it's not worth my time to apply for a federal job. Because in the time it takes me to apply for a federal job, I could apply for 20 private-sector jobs, or more."


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In other words, the Stim Bill is a massive flop and the UE is about to go even higher. 

What disgrace this asshole is.  How about finding ways to cut govt workers instead? 

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Re: Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2010, 07:56:10 AM »
SORRY HIS PLAN IS TO EXPAND GOVERNMENT.HE HATES THE PRIVATE SECTOR.He thinks that government is the sollution to everything.This is reallly just another form of welfare.

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Re: Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2010, 07:59:42 AM »
This is what this communist thug os focusing on.  Unreal. 


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Re: Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2010, 08:34:42 AM »
GDP=GOVT SPENDING.

There is no recovery.

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Re: Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2010, 09:25:29 AM »
suppose he slashed 500k Govt jobs tomorrow.

What would the political ramifications be?

You'd have repubs on every channel crying for the half-million victims of obama's terrible economic policy.  You'd have FOX news on 24/7, bitching about the "500,000 families destroyed by Obamanomics."

The exact same way - without the auto bailouts - you'd have Rush saying, every damn day, "Obama killed the American Auto Industry", even though the truth would be that he inherited a shitty situation of 50 years of Unions.

So - POLITICALLY - not morally, you silly ppl who cannot tell them apart - Obama would make a terrible mistake by slashing Govt jobs.  it could cost him his job, no doubt.  Those 500k workers would RATHER keep their unneeded job, and let their grandchildren pay for it, than be without work suddenly.

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Re: Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2010, 09:29:02 AM »
240 - seriously - what the hell is wrong with you lately? 

Do you even read what you type? 

Do you see republicans doing that in NJ? 


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Re: Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2010, 09:32:50 AM »
I'm going to go out on a limb here, and guess that you're not exactly a "fan" of Obama? ???
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Re: Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2010, 09:36:27 AM »
Not a fan?

I have socialists, marxists, and wannabe dictators.  Hence, I am not a fan of ZERO.   

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Re: Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2010, 09:37:45 AM »
suppose he slashed 500k Govt jobs tomorrow.

What would the political ramifications be?

You'd have repubs on every channel crying for the half-million victims of obama's terrible economic policy.  You'd have FOX news on 24/7, bitching about the "500,000 families destroyed by Obamanomics."

The exact same way - without the auto bailouts - you'd have Rush saying, every damn day, "Obama killed the American Auto Industry", even though the truth would be that he inherited a shitty situation of 50 years of Unions.

So - POLITICALLY - not morally, you silly ppl who cannot tell them apart - Obama would make a terrible mistake by slashing Govt jobs.  it could cost him his job, no doubt.  Those 500k workers would RATHER keep their unneeded job, and let their grandchildren pay for it, than be without work suddenly.

His spending is going to cost him his job,because those with kids care more about them then ourselves and we dont want them paying for a leftist radicals loony spending schemes and union pay offs.

I cant wait for Nov.Of course Im sure you will be one of the many libs blaming Obamas slap down as racism and of course you will add in 'Palin would have been worse".

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Re: Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2010, 09:40:29 AM »
"Do you see republicans doing that in NJ?  "

Explain what you mean, I dont follow.




Quick question for everyone---  If Obama were to slash, say, two MILLION govt jobs tomorrow... and we suddenly had two MILLION newly unemployed americans, two MILLION families without food or rent, two MILLION homes facing eviction or foreclosure...

Regardless of whether or not this would be the econmoincally sensible move (which it would be).... What would be the POLITICAL effects for Obama?  Would repubs PRAISE him for slashing the jobs/spending, or CRITICIZE him for crippling two million American families?

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Re: Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2010, 09:41:09 AM »
240 - you earned it. 

 

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Re: Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2010, 09:42:26 AM »
"Do you see republicans doing that in NJ?  "

Explain what you mean, I dont follow.




Quick question for everyone---  If Obama were to slash, say, two MILLION govt jobs tomorrow... and we suddenly had two MILLION newly unemployed americans, two MILLION families without food or rent, two MILLION homes facing eviction or foreclosure...

Regardless of whether or not this would be the econmoincally sensible move (which it would be).... What would be the POLITICAL effects for Obama?  Would repubs PRAISE him for slashing the jobs/spending, or CRITICIZE him for crippling two million American families?

I would say, do you want to eat now or starve your grandkids and their grandkids and have them slaves to the chinese?  your choice. 

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Re: Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2010, 09:53:24 AM »
Not a fan?

I have socialists, marxists, and wannabe dictators.  Hence, I am not a fan of ZERO.   

stop watching fox news.  ;D
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Re: Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2010, 09:56:01 AM »
I don't watch TV. 

Do you want my proof that Obama is a marxist?  Tell me if you want me to start now going backwards or from his birth to today.

The scumbag is intentionally following policies to bankrupt this country as fast as possible.  Its called Cloward and Piven, look it up.     

 

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Re: Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2010, 10:00:14 AM »
I don't watch TV. 

Do you want my proof that Obama is a marxist?  Tell me if you want me to start now going backwards or from his birth to today.

The scumbag is intentionally following policies to bankrupt this country as fast as possible.  Its called Cloward and Piven, look it up.     

 

The level of paranoia on the right is absolutely astonishing. ;D Why would he try to bankrupt the country? have you asked yourself? and you keep saying he wants to move the country toward communism......why would he do that when we all know how well that concept worked in the past... ::) C'mmon dude...have some common sense..oh wait, nevermind.  ;D
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Re: Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2010, 10:06:18 AM »
Ok Danny: 

1.  His parents were communists. 

2.  His mentor was a well known communist.

3.  His friends were commnunists.

4.  Many of his czars are declared marxists or have written sympathetic articles to communism. 

5.  In college he said he sought out the "marxists".

6.  He complained that the Warren Court was not radical enough and did not achieve "redistribution of wealth".

7.  He stayed in a radical church led by a marxist for 20 years.


You want more?   

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Re: Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2010, 10:14:45 AM »
Ok Danny: 

1.  His parents were communists. 

2.  His mentor was a well known communist.

3.  His friends were commnunists.

4.  Many of his czars are declared marxists or have written sympathetic articles to communism. 

5.  In college he said he sought out the "marxists".

6.  He complained that the Warren Court was not radical enough and did not achieve "redistribution of wealth".

7.  He stayed in a radical church led by a marxist for 20 years.


You want more?   

Waste of time.They are blinded by his ability to read a teleprompter.They ask  "why would he do that"?Why?Because he hates America and everything it stands for.He thinks WE are the problem,not the sollution to the problem.He thinks this country needs to be taken down a peg,we are arrogant and we got rich off the backs of impoverished countries.He despises this country and wants it to be just another country and have as many dependant on the government as possible so his power expands.THATS why he loves government hiring.More people depending on him.

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Re: Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2010, 10:18:52 AM »
How anyone doubts that he hates almost everything is beyond me.  This marxist schmuck is complaining about Ipods and Ipads for Gods sake. 

Why?  Because he is pissed off that he himself is not the sole source of news and other cant challenge his stream of lies and bs.   

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Re: Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2010, 10:28:22 AM »
"I would say, do you want to eat now or starve your grandkids and their grandkids and have them slaves to the chinese?  your choice.  "


How would most ppl answer?

(you are correct, of course.  I'm not arguing that.)

I think most ppl would take the $ today.

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Re: Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2010, 10:31:25 AM »
Hey, sounds like Obama wants US to emulate Greece.

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Re: Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2010, 10:32:07 AM »
"I would say, do you want to eat now or starve your grandkids and their grandkids and have them slaves to the chinese?  your choice.  "


How would most ppl answer?

(you are correct, of course.  I'm not arguing that.)

I think most ppl would take the $ today.

Which is why I am so pessimistic about the future of this country.  As a people we really are a bunch of selfish pigs who dont give a rats ass about the fiscal recklessness so long as a few lazy slobs get paid today.  

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Re: Obama wants federal agencies to hit the gas on hiring.
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2010, 10:32:57 AM »
Hey, sounds like Obama wants US to emulate Greece.

Nah, more like Kenya.  He would fell more at home that way.