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« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2010, 01:05:47 PM »

TRENDING: Paul takes heat for Civil Rights comments
Posted: May 20th, 2010 12:00 PM ET

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Paul is facing fire for comments on the Civil Rights Act.
Paul is facing fire for comments on the Civil Rights Act.

(CNN) - Kentucky Democratic Senate candidate Jack Conway is putting the heat on GOP rival Rand Paul over Paul's recent comments regarding the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

Paul - the Tea Party favorite who easily beat Kentucky Secretary of State Trey Grayson in the state's May 18 Senate primary - repeatedly dodged questions in recent media interviews about whether he thinks parts of the landmark legislation amount to a constitutional overreach.

An interview with the Louisville Courier-Journal last month highlighted Paul's controversial views during which he said: "I don't like the idea of telling private business owners-I abhor racism-I think it's a bad business decision to ever exclude anybody from your restaurant. But at the same time I do believe in private ownership. But I think there should be absolutely no discrimination on anything that gets any public funding and that's most of what the Civil Rights Act was about to my mind."

Following his primary victory on Tuesday, Paul was again questioned over his views regarding the legislation on National Public Radio and MSNBC's Rachel Maddow. In response to questions, Paul said he supports the 46-year old measure except for the provisions that outlaw private businesses from discriminating on the basis of race.

While stressing that he is opposed to discrimination in any form, Paul suggested the measure runs up against individuals' First Amendment and property rights.

"I think what's important in this debate is not getting into any specific 'gotcha' on this, but asking the question 'What about freedom of speech?' Should we limit speech from people we find abhorrent? Should we limit racists from speaking? I don't want to be associated with those people, but I also don't want to limit their speech in any way in the sense that we tolerate boorish and uncivilized behavior because that's one of the things that freedom requires," he said.
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« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2010, 01:07:45 PM »

Great, I can't wait for this debate. 

The Ron Paul wing is coming forward and is ready for this battle. 
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« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2010, 01:10:26 PM »

Well,again,it is a motel and to get there you are travelling on government roads.So its a sticky issue.Id ask can the miss blac America contest discriminate against whites,couldnt this harm a potential white women the opportunities that come with the title?

I'm not sure a contest is really similar to a motel, restaurant, etc. (e.g., a contest doesn't really engage in interstate commerce), but I do think they should get rid of race-exclusive contests. 

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« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2010, 01:12:12 PM »

TRENDING: Paul takes heat for Civil Rights comments
Posted: May 20th, 2010 12:00 PM ET

From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney
Paul is facing fire for comments on the Civil Rights Act.
Paul is facing fire for comments on the Civil Rights Act.

(CNN) - Kentucky Democratic Senate candidate Jack Conway is putting the heat on GOP rival Rand Paul over Paul's recent comments regarding the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

Paul - the Tea Party favorite who easily beat Kentucky Secretary of State Trey Grayson in the state's May 18 Senate primary - repeatedly dodged questions in recent media interviews about whether he thinks parts of the landmark legislation amount to a constitutional overreach.

An interview with the Louisville Courier-Journal last month highlighted Paul's controversial views during which he said: "I don't like the idea of telling private business owners-I abhor racism-I think it's a bad business decision to ever exclude anybody from your restaurant. But at the same time I do believe in private ownership. But I think there should be absolutely no discrimination on anything that gets any public funding and that's most of what the Civil Rights Act was about to my mind."

Following his primary victory on Tuesday, Paul was again questioned over his views regarding the legislation on National Public Radio and MSNBC's Rachel Maddow. In response to questions, Paul said he supports the 46-year old measure except for the provisions that outlaw private businesses from discriminating on the basis of race.

While stressing that he is opposed to discrimination in any form, Paul suggested the measure runs up against individuals' First Amendment and property rights.

"I think what's important in this debate is not getting into any specific 'gotcha' on this, but asking the question 'What about freedom of speech?' Should we limit speech from people we find abhorrent? Should we limit racists from speaking? I don't want to be associated with those people, but I also don't want to limit their speech in any way in the sense that we tolerate boorish and uncivilized behavior because that's one of the things that freedom requires," he said.

This is really amusing.Let me get this straight.Paul said he would have wanted a debate on the issue and the left dubs him a racist.Obama sits in a church for twenty years listening to rev. Wright,wrote a book based on his sermon,said he couldnt throw wright under the bus and NONE of that makes Obama a racist.Even when Wright said the reason he doesnt see Obama in the white house is because "dem jews wont let me see him".[which was just another example of his racism].NONE of that points to Obama being a racist,but Paul,because he said he would have wanted a debate on the issue is a racist.WOW!!!!!!!!!!

TO BEACH BUM,THE CONTEST HAS MONEY PRIZES AND IS A BUISINESS.
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« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2010, 01:12:53 PM »

BILLY - dont confuse Danny with reality.   
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« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2010, 01:19:03 PM »


TO BEACH BUM,THE CONTEST HAS MONEY PRIZES AND IS A BUISINESS.

I guess you can make an argument that a beauty contest engages in interstate commerce because women compete from different states for money. 

I wonder if any woman has ever tried to compete in one of those contests and was precluded based on race?  Although you'd have to wonder why, for example, a Hispanic woman would try and compete in the Cherry Blossom contest (Asian). 
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« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2010, 01:25:04 PM »

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« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2010, 01:27:06 PM »

That's going to help him.  most people like Ron Paul and are sick of the panzie, patsy, punk ass GOP brand. 

Like it helped Ron Paul? Ron Paul is pretty underground. Unless either of them are running a resistance movement, I'd imagine they'd be better focusing their energies elsewhere. I respect your right to your opinion.
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« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2010, 01:29:04 PM »

BILLY - dont confuse Danny with reality.   

riiiiiight.....like you would know anything about reality. Roll Eyes You keep calling everybody who doesn't share your far right point of view a communist, socialist..heck probably even fascist, basically pushing your own opinion  and trying to make people AGREE with it,regardless how stupid, ignorant, divisive and  extreme it is. Let me tell you something, that is EXACTLY how communists used to work, that was their MO, for somebody who uses the word "communist" as much as you do, you certainly associate your behaviour with their basic principle, which is "it's either the way the communist party says it is or you're a traitor". Pretty ironic....isn't it??  Grin
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« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2010, 01:30:33 PM »

I guess you can make an argument that a beauty contest engages in interstate commerce because women compete from different states for money. 

I wonder if any woman has ever tried to compete in one of those contests and was precluded based on race?  Although you'd have to wonder why, for example, a Hispanic woman would try and compete in the Cherry Blossom contest (Asian). 

By the way,I think they should be allowed to keep others out.Paul is simply saying he would have liked to have had a discussion.Even the farthest lib would have to admit its a sticky issue.Where do private rights start and government rights take over.
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« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2010, 01:34:56 PM »

riiiiiight.....like you would know anything about reality. Roll Eyes You keep calling everybody who doesn't share your far right point of view a communist, socialist..heck probably even fascist, basically pushing your own opinion  and trying to make people AGREE with it,regardless how stupid, ignorant, divisive and  extreme it is. Let me tell you something, that is EXACTLY how communists used to work, that was their MO, for somebody who uses the word "communist" as much as you do, you certainly associate your behaviour with their basic principle, which is "it's either the way the communist party says it is or you're a traitor". Pretty ironic....isn't it??  Grin

Obama is a communist and admitted it many times. 
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« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2010, 01:36:31 PM »

By the way,I think they should be allowed to keep others out.Paul is simply saying he would have liked to have had a discussion.Even the farthest lib would have to admit its a sticky issue.Where do private rights start and government rights take over.

I don't think it's all that complicated.  I like the public accommodations, interstate commerce limitation.  That still allows a private school, private club, etc. to do whatever they want, so long as they don't get government funds.  

Paul ought to leave this issue alone, because it will only become a major distraction.    
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« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2010, 01:47:17 PM »

riiiiiight.....like you would know anything about reality. Roll Eyes You keep calling everybody who doesn't share your far right point of view a communist, socialist..heck probably even fascist, basically pushing your own opinion  and trying to make people AGREE with it,regardless how stupid, ignorant, divisive and  extreme it is. Let me tell you something, that is EXACTLY how communists used to work, that was their MO, for somebody who uses the word "communist" as much as you do, you certainly associate your behaviour with their basic principle, which is "it's either the way the communist party says it is or you're a traitor". Pretty ironic....isn't it??  Grin

Ok Danny, I have been nice so far.  Since apparently you and your fellow traveling liberal morons refused to do any homework on the pofs traitorous communist radical you voted for in 2008, I will help you out.  Tell me when you want to cry uncle.  Here is obama admitting he sought out the marxist profressors in college. 

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« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2010, 01:50:31 PM »

Not sure if this has been posted or not -

In a May 30, 2002, letter to the Bowling Green Daily News, Paul's hometown newspaper, he criticized the paper for endorsing the Fair Housing Act, and explained that "a free society will abide unofficial, private discrimination, even when that means allowing hate-filled groups to exclude people based on the color of their skin." (Hat tip: Page One Kentucky.)

"The Daily News ignores," wrote Paul, "as does the Fair Housing Act, the distinction between private and public property. Should it be prohibited for public, taxpayer-financed institutions such as schools to reject someone based on an individual's beliefs or attributes? Most certainly. Should it be prohibited for private entities such as a church, bed and breakfast or retirement neighborhood that doesn't want noisy children? Absolutely not."

In language similar to the language he's used talking about the Civil Rights Act, Paul criticized racism while defending the right of businesses to discriminate.

"A free society will abide unofficial, private discrimination," wrote Paul, "even when that means allowing hate-filled groups to exclude people based on the color of their skin. It is unenlightened and ill-informed to promote discrimination against individuals based on the color of their skin. It is likewise unwise to forget the distinction between public (taxpayer-financed) and private entities."
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« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2010, 01:54:00 PM »

I agree 100000000% with that KC.  Rand is speaking the truth.  It goes on all over country especially between blacks and hispanics. 

We are supposed to free in this country and if i dont like you cause you are chinese - too fucking bad.  You dont like me cuz i'm a wop - too bad for me. 

Finally we have someone speaking the damn truth for once rather than the color by numbers left wing pap.   
 
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« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2010, 02:10:25 PM »

good donation 333386, you the man!
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« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2010, 02:28:35 PM »

LMAO this whole issue is a distraction and wont work...he is not going to author legislation to this end and the only reason its in the news is b/c idiotic liberals bring it up for as he stated political talking points...

How long before ppl start calling him a racist? ill say 3 days

if he stays the course and doesnt stray he is going to win come november
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« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2010, 02:30:00 PM »

you are three days too late tony.  The marxists have already started to call him a racist. 
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« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2010, 02:31:03 PM »

Well the problem with that 333 is that all men are created equal according to the founding fathers.  By that standard you can not discriminate against anyone else based on skin colour in the United States of America.  Private does not mean 'above the law' you can not have a private murder club or rape club either.  
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« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2010, 02:34:58 PM »

Equality and Freedom are not the same thing. 

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« Reply #45 on: May 20, 2010, 02:39:26 PM »

Well the problem with that 333 is that all men are created equal according to the founding fathers.  By that standard you can not discriminate against anyone else based on skin colour in the United States of America.  Private does not mean 'above the law' you can not have a private murder club or rape club either.  

You can have a private club that discriminates.  That's why we still have things like the Augusta National Golf Club (men only). 

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« Reply #46 on: May 20, 2010, 02:40:22 PM »

Equality and Freedom are not the same thing. 



hahaha according to the klan maybe but a real interpretation would be without equality you have no freedom.  
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« Reply #47 on: May 20, 2010, 02:41:26 PM »

You can have a private club that discriminates.  That's why we still have things like the Augusta National Golf Club (men only). 



Sexual segregation is still a legal and permissible thing.  It is NOT the same as racial discrimination in the eyes of the law or the constitution. 
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« Reply #48 on: May 20, 2010, 02:42:38 PM »

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« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2010, 02:46:27 PM »

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