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Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« on: May 21, 2010, 12:47:28 PM »
Strikeforce heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem has tested negative for anabolic steroids and drugs of abuse based upon independent testing that was administered by the promotion, CEO Scott Coker told Sherdog.com on Friday.

Let's see what Fedor's excuse is now ::)
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Re: Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2010, 01:01:07 PM »
dunno ask these guys.


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Re: Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2010, 03:18:47 PM »
it's been 5 years since he fought a real opponent ::)
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Re: Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2010, 07:21:15 PM »
it's been 5 years since he fought a real opponent ::)

You're so fucking retarded you shouldn't even be allowed access to a computer..

I'm sure you'd kill any of his last 5 years opponents stud.

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Re: Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2010, 08:39:47 PM »
Everybody here should be familiar enough with performance enhancers to know that passing a drug test means absolutely nothing.
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Re: Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2010, 11:27:13 PM »
omg this guy is a HATER  >:(

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Re: Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2010, 04:21:07 AM »
Strikeforce heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem has tested negative for anabolic steroids and drugs of abuse based upon independent testing that was administered by the promotion, CEO Scott Coker told Sherdog.com on Friday.

Let's see what Fedor's excuse is now ::)
Is this a joke? Of course that Overeem in on drugs...Who believes that AO is not on drugs is naive!
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Re: Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2010, 06:24:59 AM »
amen to short esters

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Re: Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2010, 11:07:49 AM »
You're so fucking retarded you shouldn't even be allowed access to a computer..

I'm sure you'd kill any of his last 5 years opponents stud.


This is not about who anyone on here would beat a pro figher...

Fedor has been padding his record for years.

His is running out of UFC rejects to fight though.

Within a year or so Fedor will either be exposed or he will step up and at least fight Overeem.


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Re: Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2010, 02:25:27 PM »


Within a year or so Fedor will either be exposed or he will step up and at least fight Overeem.

wait a minute i thought you said you wouldn't call him overrated if he lost ::)

and overeem is as natural as pamela anderson's breasts

fedor should fight josh barnett before overeem, he's more deserving

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Re: Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2010, 03:47:21 PM »
You're so fucking retarded you shouldn't even be allowed access to a computer..

I'm sure you'd kill any of his last 5 years opponents stud.


LOL!
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Re: Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2010, 03:56:13 PM »
Maybe you guys just hate Fedor so much because NO ONE ELSE IN MMA has a 31-0 record or EVEN CLOSE to it.. (no I don't count his 1 NC a loss because it was due to ilegal elbows)

the man has fought literally everybody.. from UFC and Pride.. if the UFC actually had a semi-decent heavyweight division (with guys that have more then 9 fights on their record) and the champions both didn't have less then 10 fights to their name (LOL) then maybe I would say ok , fine Fedor is ducking the competition but considering what a joke the UFC's heavyweight div is there's really not much to say..

Fedor has walked through 31 pro fights, with only hints of being in trouble in 2 fights and you guys still hate on him, sad..just sad.

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Re: Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2010, 05:15:45 PM »
Maybe you guys just hate Fedor so much because NO ONE ELSE IN MMA has a 31-0 record or EVEN CLOSE to it.. (no I don't count his 1 NC a loss because it was due to ilegal elbows)

the man has fought literally everybody.. from UFC and Pride.. if the UFC actually had a semi-decent heavyweight division (with guys that have more then 9 fights on their record) and the champions both didn't have less then 10 fights to their name (LOL) then maybe I would say ok , fine Fedor is ducking the competition but considering what a joke the UFC's heavyweight div is there's really not much to say..

Fedor has walked through 31 pro fights, with only hints of being in trouble in 2 fights and you guys still hate on him, sad..just sad.


Yep...he used to be great, but not today.
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Re: Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2010, 05:37:57 PM »
Yep...he used to be great, but not today.

who has he lost to "today" and who has beaten more high quality opponents?

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Re: Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2010, 09:11:41 PM »
Maybe you guys just hate Fedor so much because NO ONE ELSE IN MMA has a 31-0 record or EVEN CLOSE to it.. (no I don't count his 1 NC a loss because it was due to ilegal elbows)

the man has fought literally everybody.. from UFC and Pride.. if the UFC actually had a semi-decent heavyweight division (with guys that have more then 9 fights on their record) and the champions both didn't have less then 10 fights to their name (LOL) then maybe I would say ok , fine Fedor is ducking the competition but considering what a joke the UFC's heavyweight div is there's really not much to say..

Fedor has walked through 31 pro fights, with only hints of being in trouble in 2 fights and you guys still hate on him, sad..just sad.


I am hating on him because he has only been fighting UFC rejects fresh off a shit-canning.
His next fight is against a guy that is barely in the top 10.
That is the problem. This has nothing to do with what he has done in the past.

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Re: Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2010, 10:29:01 PM »
I am hating on him because he has only been fighting UFC rejects fresh off a shit-canning.
His next fight is against a guy that is barely in the top 10.
That is the problem. This has nothing to do with what he has done in the past.

Fair enough, but it's not like the UFC heavyweight division is spectacular... the top heavyweight UFC guys have less then 10 fights under their belt, do I wish he was fighting in the UFC (just to shut dana and all the ufc nuthuggers up) hell yeah, but it is what it is.. sometimes politics don't allow for dream matchups to happen, as much as you guys praise dana white as jesus christ, there's a shitload of ufc (and ex) fighters saying that they screw you over to no end..now this is debatable in most cases but after the ufc let the media in on it's policy (via TUF) you can plainly see how much money they make off these guys and how little they get back.

That guy dana white just added another way to screw the fighters out of money about 8 months ago when he made it mandatory that the fighters main sponsor PAYS THE UFC $100,000 (or somewhere around there) for the fighter to be able to wear their products inside the octagon, which is just ridiculous.

Either way, Fedor is the man..no one has beat him, EVER, his record is 31 and 0, not much else to say other then that.. people keep trying to name guys that will knock him off but we've been hearing of who might knock Fedor out for 5,6 years now... and let's be real, no one has come even close.

Does he fight a lot of ex-UFC champions? YES, but think about that for a sec, these guys were the no.1's of the biggest organization ever and it's not like he's fighting them 10 years after they were champion... on average its a year or two later.

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Re: Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2010, 11:16:32 PM »
Fair enough, but it's not like the UFC heavyweight division is spectacular... the top heavyweight UFC guys have less then 10 fights under their belt, do I wish he was fighting in the UFC (just to shut dana and all the ufc nuthuggers up) hell yeah, but it is what it is.. sometimes politics don't allow for dream matchups to happen, as much as you guys praise dana white as jesus christ, there's a shitload of ufc (and ex) fighters saying that they screw you over to no end..now this is debatable in most cases but after the ufc let the media in on it's policy (via TUF) you can plainly see how much money they make off these guys and how little they get back.

That #### dana white just added another way to screw the fighters out of money about 8 months ago when he made it mandatory that the fighters main sponsor PAYS THE UFC $100,000 (or somewhere around there) for the fighter to be able to wear their products inside the octagon, which is just ridiculous.

Either way, Fedor is the man..no one has beat him, EVER, his record is 31 and 0, not much else to say other then that.. people keep trying to name guys that will knock him off but we've been hearing of who might knock Fedor out for 5,6 years now... and let's be real, no one has come even close.

Does he fight a lot of ex-UFC champions? YES, but think about that for a sec, these guys were the no.1's of the biggest organization ever and it's not like he's fighting them 10 years after they were champion... on average its a year or two later.


Thanks for a well thought out reply. Seriously. Although I do not agree with everything, I see your points and respect your views.

We all just want to see Fedor fight the biggest and most intriguing match-ups.

All you other chumps need to take note...CEq at least can back up his opinions without all the Dick n Ball talk as his only rebuttal.
Nice to see on here for a change.

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Re: Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2010, 08:21:02 AM »
Thanks for a well thought out reply. Seriously. Although I do not agree with everything, I see your points and respect your views.

We all just want to see Fedor fight the biggest and most intriguing match-ups.

All you other chumps need to take note...CEq at least can back up his opinions without all the Dick n Ball talk as his only rebuttal.
Nice to see on here for a change.


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Believe me dude I would love to see Fedor in the UFC, I was as shocked over last summer's M-1/UFC bullshit as anyone and to be quite honest I agree with most of your opinions about M-1 it's a bunch of nobodies trying to ride on the coattails of the originators and creators of the sport of MMA, and realistically they only have one significant name that is Fedor... all the other guys that idiot vadim names are irrelevant nobodies that nobody in the American market is interested in. I really do think that Dana did all he could to sign Fedor, the guy literally said he would stand on his head to sign him and it showed with the numerous meetings they all had over the phone together (with M-1)

I think the biggest problem is Fedor left control of his life and career to that bastard finkelstein and this is the result..
all finkelstein cares about is himself, Fedor doesn't seem like a greedy person ( he still lives in an old mining town and drives an old toyota) while being a multi-multi-millionaire, something is not right there.. for all we know his managers could be tied to the mob and pulling the strings for Fedor from there (threatening his family, etc.) as was common with a lot of big time Eastern European athletes.

Either way, I think Fedor has 2 fights left on his M-1 contract, hopefully he puts down the vodka, sees the light and gets new management and fights in the UFC before his name is worthless.

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Re: Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2010, 08:33:41 AM »
Brock Lesnar's last 3 fights:

Win   Frank Mir   TKO (Punches)   UFC 100 - Lesnar vs. Mir 2   7/11/2009   2   1:48                                          Garbage can, product of UFC marketing
Win   Randy Couture   TKO (Punches)   UFC 91 - Couture vs. Lesnar   11/15/2008   2   3:07                                  45 years old at the time, LOL
Win   Heath Herring   Decision (Unanimous)   UFC 87 - Seek and Destroy   8/9/2008   3   5:00                          Hasn't been good since 2004

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Fedor's last 3 fights:

Win   Brett Rogers   TKO (Punches)   Strikeforce / M-1 Global - Fedor vs. Rogers   11/7/2009   2   1:48           Top 10 HW, also KO'd Brock 3+ times in training
Win   Andrei Arlovski   KO (Punch)   Affliction - Day of Reckoning   1/24/2009   1   3:14                                           Ranked #2 in the world by most MMA experts at the time. Former UFC HW champ
Win   Tim Sylvia   Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)   Affliction - Banned   7/19/2008   1   0:36                           Top 10 HW, former UFC champ

Not much more needs to be said.

But for the sake argument, let's note that Brock has fought exactly one time since November 2008. One time. Looking at this, it's clear who is really fighting top competition and who isn't. Not only that, Brock can't even make it into the ring, let alone win some fights. And this 4-1 fighter with one win over a "top 10 HW" who is really a product of UFC marketing is the best the UFC HW division has? No wonder Fedor stayed outside of it. Ubereem, Barnett, Aleks and a few other guys are clearly better fighters.

Once upon a time, fighters had to earn their title shots against the #1 guy. That usually involved fighting top competition for a while and proving yourself worthy, not having 5 fights against cans under your belt. Of the guys in Strikeforce and the UFC, Ubereem is really the only guy deserving of a shot against Fedor right now. Brock should come back in 3 years when he breaks 10 fights against legit, in-their-prime fighters (LOL) and actually manages to step into the ring without faking an illness.

And let's be honest. Would Dana White be any better than Finklestein? I seriously, seriously doubt that. Dana White is a scumbag that is constantly throwing his "buddies" under the bus when he no longer has any use for them. I have no doubt in my mind that he would shit all over Fedor and treat him like his lapdog, something Fedor would never accept nor should he be expected to.  

Bring on the Mindspin, I mean WeightPSHR, excuses.  ::)

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Re: Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2010, 09:24:36 AM »
Brock Lesnar's last 3 fights:

Win   Frank Mir   TKO (Punches)   UFC 100 - Lesnar vs. Mir 2   7/11/2009   2   1:48                                          Garbage can, product of UFC marketing
Win   Randy Couture   TKO (Punches)   UFC 91 - Couture vs. Lesnar   11/15/2008   2   3:07                                  45 years old at the time, LOL
Win   Heath Herring   Decision (Unanimous)   UFC 87 - Seek and Destroy   8/9/2008   3   5:00                          Hasn't been good since 2004

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Fedor's last 3 fights:

Win   Brett Rogers   TKO (Punches)   Strikeforce / M-1 Global - Fedor vs. Rogers   11/7/2009   2   1:48           Top 10 HW, also KO'd Brock 3+ times in training
Win   Andrei Arlovski   KO (Punch)   Affliction - Day of Reckoning   1/24/2009   1   3:14                                           Ranked #2 in the world by most MMA experts at the time. Former UFC HW champ
Win   Tim Sylvia   Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)   Affliction - Banned   7/19/2008   1   0:36                           Top 10 HW, former UFC champ

Not much more needs to be said.

But for the sake argument, let's note that Brock has fought exactly one time since November 2008. One time. Looking at this, it's clear who is really fighting top competition and who isn't. Not only that, Brock can't even make it into the ring, let alone win some fights. And this 4-1 fighter with one win over a "top 10 HW" who is really a product of UFC marketing is the best the UFC HW division has? No wonder Fedor stayed outside of it. Ubereem, Barnett, Aleks and a few other guys are clearly better fighters.

Once upon a time, fighters had to earn their title shots against the #1 guy. That usually involved fighting top competition for a while and proving yourself worthy, not having 5 fights against cans under your belt. Of the guys in Strikeforce and the UFC, Ubereem is really the only guy deserving of a shot against Fedor right now. Brock should come back in 3 years when he breaks 10 fights against legit, in-their-prime fighters (LOL) and actually manages to step into the ring without faking an illness.

And let's be honest. Would Dana White be any better than Finklestein? I seriously, seriously doubt that. Dana White is a scumbag that is constantly throwing his "buddies" under the bus when he no longer has any use for them. I have no doubt in my mind that he would shit all over Fedor and treat him like his lapdog, something Fedor would never accept nor should he be expected to.  

Bring on the Mindspin, I mean WeightPSHR, excuses.  ::)

Cliffs please?

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Re: Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2010, 09:30:59 AM »
Cliffs please?

To sum it up, you embarrassed yourself...again.  :-\

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Re: Overeem passes Strikeforce independent drug testing
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2010, 09:38:05 AM »
To sum it up, you embarrassed yourself...again.  :-\
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