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GOP Blocks Oil Spill Liability Bill
« on: May 24, 2010, 09:33:52 AM »
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20005333-503544.html

Republicans for the second time blocked legislation that would increase oil companies' liability for oil spill damages, setting off criticism from Democrats seeking to make BP pay for the disastrous oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.) on Tuesday blocked a bill Democrats have put forward to raise the liability cap from $75 million to $10 billion. He said on the Senate floor he agrees the cap should be raised, but the Senate should "wait and see where the cap should be."

"If you have it too high you are going to be singling out BP and the other four largest majors and the nationalized companies, such as China and Venezuela, and shutting out the independent producers," he said.

Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) blocked the legislation last week.

President Obama released a statement saying he is disappointed by the Republicans' objections.

"This maneuver threatens to leave taxpayers, rather than the oil companies, on the hook for future disasters like the BP oil spill," he said. "I urge the Senate Republicans to stop playing special interest politics and join in a bipartisan effort to protect taxpayers and demand accountability from the oil companies."

Roll Call reports that Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.), one of the sponsors of the legislation, reportedly asked, "This is really about whose side do you stand on? Do you stand up with the taxpayers or with multibillion-dollar oil companies?"

Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.), another co-sponsor, similarly derided the GOP.

"What we're watching here is a sham," Lautenberg said, Politico reports. "We see our friends on the other side--correct that, the people on the other side... not friendly in this case, [and we want them] to stand up and say, 'Yeah. You did it? Pay for it.'"

Meanwhile, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said yesterday that a $10 billion cap is inadequate.
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Re: GOP Blocks Oil Spill Liability Bill
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2010, 11:28:04 AM »
Totally idiotic.Maybe we should make them pay a trillion dollars or a trillion trillion.Where does it end.How about this.When congress passes a bill that fails EVERYONE that voted for it is out.For example the dummy democrats that voted for the stimulus should be now forced out of office.Democrats LOVE to punnish private industry,but never asks for a union to pay for destroying the textile industry or educational system or steel industry;

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Re: GOP Blocks Oil Spill Liability Bill
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2010, 11:53:40 AM »
Totally idiotic.Maybe we should make them pay a trillion dollars or a trillion trillion.Where does it end.How about this.When congress passes a bill that fails EVERYONE that voted for it is out.For example the dummy democrats that voted for the stimulus should be now forced out of office.Democrats LOVE to punnish private industry,but never asks for a union to pay for destroying the textile industry or educational system or steel industry;

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Re: GOP Blocks Oil Spill Liability Bill
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2010, 12:51:23 PM »
Totally idiotic.Maybe we should make them pay a trillion dollars or a trillion trillion.Where does it end.How about this.When congress passes a bill that fails EVERYONE that voted for it is out.For example the dummy democrats that voted for the stimulus should be now forced out of office.Democrats LOVE to punnish private industry,but never asks for a union to pay for destroying the textile industry or educational system or steel industry;

BP should be responsible for the entire clean up...there is a current cap by federal law and the GOP has proven that they are in bed with big oil.  BP should be punished, and so should the government agency that allowed BP to drill knowing that the proper safety switches were not in place. 

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Re: GOP Blocks Oil Spill Liability Bill
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2010, 01:34:07 PM »
BP should be responsible for the entire clean up...there is a current cap by federal law and the GOP has proven that they are in bed with big oil.  BP should be punished, and so should the government agency that allowed BP to drill knowing that the proper safety switches were not in place. 

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Re: GOP Blocks Oil Spill Liability Bill
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2010, 01:49:09 PM »
that rig failed inspections 11 days prior to the explosion, and if i check the calender obama was pres and had been for quite a while, which gave him plenty of time to correct bad policies by the bush admin , after all obama and his admin have been deemed the smartest admin ever !!  so why didnt they fix it? 
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Re: GOP Blocks Oil Spill Liability Bill
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2010, 02:08:26 PM »
BP has already agreed to pay for the entire cleanup BEFORE Obama said "we need to keep the heel of our boots on their throats".

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Re: GOP Blocks Oil Spill Liability Bill
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2010, 06:22:12 AM »
Anger at White House over oil spill role
By Stephanie Kirchgaessner and Anna Fifield in Washington and agencies


Published: May 23 2010 18:43 | Last updated: May 24 2010 14:31

The Obama administration is facing a rising tide of anger against its handling of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill and acknowledged on Sunday that it did not have the technical capabilities to step in and fix the gusher on its own.

Under scrutiny, the White House delivered mixed messages about BP’s role in the Gulf of Mexico disaster. Ken Salazar, secretary of the interior, lashed out against the company at a news conference on Sunday, saying it had missed “deadline after deadline” in attempts to seal the oil well and he was ready to “push [BP] out of the way” if necessary.

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Energy groups warned over accidents - May-23.In depth: BP oil spill - May-06.Obama launches commission into oil spill - May-22.Blog: Energy source - Oct-12.White House accuses BP of ‘falling short’ - May-21.Confusion over scale of oil spill pollution - May-20..BP on Monday acknowledged that it was siphoning less oil than previously estimated from the well. Last week, the company said it was catching up to 5,000 barrels a day, but now says it caught about 2,010 bpd on average. The oil giant said that its next planned effort to contain the spill, which will involve blocking the leak with heavy fluids and then cement, has a 60 per cent to 70 per cent chance of success.

Thad Allen, the coast guard commandant in charge of co-ordinating the administration’s response, said he trusted Tony Hayward, BP chief executive, and stopping the leak was ultimately in the hands of private industry.

“They have the eyes and ears that are down there. They are necessarily the modality by which this is going to get solved,” Mr Allen told CNN.

The sense of helplessness may turn into a big political problem for Barack Obama, elected president on a promise that he would be more competent and responsive in times of national crisis than his predecessor, George W. Bush.

An editorial in The Times-Picayune, a New Orleans newspaper, castigated the administration on Sunday for appearing “timid” in its dealing with BP since the rig explosion.

Mr Obama at the weekend created an independent national commission to study the Gulf spill and make recommendations on how to prevent future spills. The commission, to be headed by former Florida governor and senator Bob Graham and former Environmental Protection Agency chief William Reilly, is due to report in six months.

In a statement on Monday, Mr Hayward said: “We are committed to providing the American people with the information they need to understand the environmental impact from the spill and the response steps that have been taken.”

He added: “BP is working hand-in-hand with federal, state and local governments to gather data on the seabed and in the water, and to incorporate those lessons so that we can continually improve the effectiveness of our response efforts”.

BP said the cost of the response to date amounted to about $760m, including the cost of the spill response, containment, relief well drilling, grants to the Gulf states, claims paid and federal costs. It said it was too early to quantify other potential costs and liabilities.

The fallout from the spill continued to drag on BP’s share price, which fell 3.7 per cent in early London trading to 487.93p. The stock has lost more than 23 per cent of its value since the spill occurred in April.

Separately, the White House is set to release its findings by the end of this week following an initial 30-day probe into the Deep­water accident, which killed 11 men. The report is expected to include recommendations on how the administration should handle deepwater and other offshore drilling applications.

Bruce Babbitt, former secretary of the interior under Bill Clinton, said that, given the administration’s limited ability to stop the leak, Mr Obama needed to “regain the confidence of the American public” by ensuring that the “deep dysfunctions” in the oil industry would be dealt with.

The oil industry had in effect been self-regulating for years, he said.

He urged the administration to issue an extended moratorium on some offshore drilling, at least for a year, while an independent body studied the spill and its causes.
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Re: GOP Blocks Oil Spill Liability Bill
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2010, 07:12:08 AM »
BP should be responsible for the entire clean up...there is a current cap by federal law and the GOP has proven that they are in bed with big oil.  BP should be punished, and so should the government agency that allowed BP to drill knowing that the proper safety switches were not in place. 

Yeah, the GOP is in bed with big oil. Obama doesn't have any ties what so ever with BP and he never received a dime in the form of campaign contribution from them or from any oil corporation. Right? Am I right? LOL. Furthermore, Obama stated months ago he was for off shore drilling. He must be as big as sell out as the GOP. No?

Like another knowledgable poster stated, that rig failed inspection 2 weeks prior to explosion. Who was the President at that time or are Dems going to blame Bush?




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Re: GOP Blocks Oil Spill Liability Bill
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2010, 07:16:02 AM »
Yeah, the GOP is in bed with big oil. Obama doesn't have any ties what so ever with BP and he never received a dime in the form of campaign contribution from them or from any oil corporation. Right? Am I right? LOL. Furthermore, Obama stated months ago he was for off shore drilling. He must be as big as sell out as the GOP. No?

Like another knowledgable poster stated, that rig failed inspection 2 weeks prior to explosion. Who was the President at that time or are Dems going to blame Bush?





They all are that much is apparent...don't try to twist my post into something it wasn't.  It doesn't matter that BP agreed to pay for everything; the law states they are only legally liable for $75 million.  That needs to change...if you want to go that route it was still the GOP that was responsible for blocking the bill.  BP has had many safety concerns on that and other rigs in the past. 

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Re: GOP Blocks Oil Spill Liability Bill
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2010, 07:49:35 AM »
They all are that much is apparent...don't try to twist my post into something it wasn't.  It doesn't matter that BP agreed to pay for everything; the law states they are only legally liable for $75 million.  That needs to change...if you want to go that route it was still the GOP that was responsible for blocking the bill.  BP has had many safety concerns on that and other rigs in the past. 
Some of these guys that defend ANYTHING that's being said against GOP are doing it like puppets, they don't seem to think there is anything wrong even occasionally with their party's position. In this case, they keep screaming Obama's got more money from the oil industry ( claim yet to be verified IMO) but if you look at some facts, so far the Democrats have been FOR raising the liability and GOP clearly AGAINST it. Pretty simple if you ask me...tells me where they're standing.
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Re: GOP Blocks Oil Spill Liability Bill
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2010, 07:52:08 AM »
They all are that much is apparent...don't try to twist my post into something it wasn't.  It doesn't matter that BP agreed to pay for everything; the law states they are only legally liable for $75 million.  That needs to change...if you want to go that route it was still the GOP that was responsible for blocking the bill.  BP has had many safety concerns on that and other rigs in the past. 

Funny but the Obama inspecters said the rig was in great shape.As far as raising liability rates,again,as soon as the government falls into line for the dsame standards then its fine.The stimulus was a 700billion dollar bust,ANYONE paying for that incredible failure?

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Re: GOP Blocks Oil Spill Liability Bill
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2010, 07:53:07 AM »
Some of these guys that defend ANYTHING that's being said against GOP are doing it like puppets, they don't seem to think there is anything wrong even occasionally with their party's position. In this case, they keep screaming Obama's got more money from the oil industry ( claim yet to be verified IMO) but if you look at some facts, so far the Democrats have been FOR raising the liability and GOP clearly AGAINST it. Pretty simple if you ask me...tells me where they're standing.

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Re: GOP Blocks Oil Spill Liability Bill
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2010, 07:55:10 AM »
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Re: GOP Blocks Oil Spill Liability Bill
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2010, 08:01:05 AM »
look who's talking... ::)

Please show me one post ever where I have defended the GOP.   

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« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2010, 08:11:01 AM »
They all are that much is apparent...don't try to twist my post into something it wasn't.  It doesn't matter that BP agreed to pay for everything; the law states they are only legally liable for $75 million.  That needs to change...if you want to go that route it was still the GOP that was responsible for blocking the bill.  BP has had many safety concerns on that and other rigs in the past. 

You don't get to tell me what to post. If I want to twist it, I will twist it. But there was no spin on my post. You just decide to attack the GOP. Why didn't you say the same thing of the scumbag Dems, like Obama, who take hundreds of thousands of dollars from the oil corporation lobbyists? Both parties have members that are in bed with corporations. BOTH PARTIES. One is no better than the other when it comes to special interests.

But, you, as well as many other misguided individuals, try to raise Obama and the Dems to a status of inculpability. As if somehow they are incorruptible and ethically superior to the GOP. Nothing could be further from the proof.

I don't care how many violations BP or that oil rig had. The point is, it failed inspections WHILE Obama was President and he, nor ANY DEMS, did anything about it. Now, there is a massive oil spill and the White House has been slow to react. So what do they do? They try to pass a legislation in order to try to get the focus away from their incompetence in dealing with this ecological disaster that happened UNDER THEIR WATCH.

Sort of reminds me of all the warnings Clinton had about Bin Laden and Al Qaeda but did nothing. But, Dems wanted the whole nation to believe Bush could have done in 8 months what Clinton couldn't do in YEARS. Now, the shoe is on the other foot, but Dems don't like it, so they continue the lame blame Bush game.

This administration is a failure in every aspect and it hasn't even been 2 years since they took over. Bush was the worst president? I think history will be revised in record time.

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Re: GOP Blocks Oil Spill Liability Bill
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2010, 08:37:52 AM »
Funny but the Obama inspecters said the rig was in great shape.As far as raising liability rates,again,as soon as the government falls into line for the dsame standards then its fine.The stimulus was a 700billion dollar bust,ANYONE paying for that incredible failure?

Yeah, the people who continue to be underemployed and unemployed. Remember Obama saying the Stim would keep the UE level at 8% or lower. FAILURE.

That clunker program did not have a lasting economic benefit. FAILURE.

Health care reform. In the latest Rasmussen poll, 63% want it repealed. FAILURE.

Change? More FAILURE.

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Re: GOP Blocks Oil Spill Liability Bill
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2010, 08:44:26 AM »
He's been President 15 months. Multiple inspections have been failed on his watch. He didn't change any of the policies Cheney spearheaded. The govt.'s response to this has been horrible. They've let BP run the show because they're incompetent and now they're acting like they could do the job better.

What a fucking failure. And it's 100% his fault. He's been President 15 months now. Time to start taking responsibility for his fuckups and get off the Bush blame game.

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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2010, 08:53:22 AM »
He's been President 15 months. Multiple inspections have been failed on his watch. He didn't change any of the policies Cheney spearheaded. The govt.'s response to this has been horrible. They've let BP run the show because they're incompetent and now they're acting like they could do the job better.

What a fucking failure. And it's 100% his fault. He's been President 15 months now. Time to start taking responsibility for his fuckups and get off the Bush blame game.

I saw Chris Dodd on tv this morning ,he is also on the Blame Bush bandwaggon.When is something Obamas fault.Incredibly,Bush was in office for 9 months and democrats say 911 was his fault.Obama has been in a year and a half and NOTHING is his fault,but the libs are quick to give him credit when the market goes up past 10,000 and are dead ass silent when it drops under 10,000.Nothing is Obamas fault and any good news is because of him.What a joke.

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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2010, 08:56:28 AM »
This quote was directed at Shipsekki on the G&O and I think hits the nail right on the head with regards to Obama's handling of the situation.

He ran on a GREEN Platform and has shown NO leadership in this situation. It doesn't get any worse than that. You run on a platform and then are faced with our worst environmental event to date and the guy is invisible. Couldn't get him of the fucking TV before. This single event just ensured he's a 1 term president.

Are you illiterate? I stated what I expect him to do. Show some leadership in this situation and get off his fucking ass. If the plug BP is going to try to install doesn't work then the leak could go on for MONTHS. There has been nothing transparent about this situation. He asked for a fucking 30 day report. What would I like to see happen? A lot more than what has.


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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2010, 08:59:40 AM »
What gauls me is how Bush got blamed for Katrina after 72 hours and yet we are post 30 days and people are still blaming bush.  You had Kanye saying bush hated blacks, and the rest of the media jumping up and down crying on the air.  Remember Shep and Whorealdo hyperventilating? 

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« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2010, 09:09:41 AM »
What I find interesting is that the govt. let BP spearhead the cleanup of this. Really goes to show just how incompetent they are as they have no idea how to fix this and instead chose to rely on a shady company. Now, 30+ days later, nothing has changed and it keeps getting worse. Good work Obama!

And like NCNPC said, at one point this guy was on the TV every 2 or 3 weeks lecturing us on the most mundane unimportant shit and now he's completely disappeared, nowhere to be seen. Funny how the works out.

Of course, we've got jerkoffs on both sides pointing fingers instead of actually trying to fix this mess. Way to go! Blaming Bush for Obama's fuckups will fix this leak!  ::)

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« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2010, 09:15:38 AM »
You would think they would have thought about this crap when desgining and or licensing these things.   

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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2010, 09:31:52 AM »
at one point this guy was on the TV every 2 or 3 weeks lecturing us on the most mundane unimportant shit and now he's completely disappeared, nowhere to be seen.
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Re: GOP Blocks Oil Spill Liability Bill
« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2010, 09:55:16 AM »
Easy solution:

Pass the bill, only add the possibility to raise the amount if it goes OVER $10 bil in costs/damages, or the ability to refund the $ if it goes UNDER $10 bil.

At the very least, it keeps the $ in a nice account waiting, so BP can't play broke or declare bankruptcy down the road.  Anyone with a brain knows it's probbaly going to be way more than 10 bil, and some think this actually protects them.

Get the $ with an option to hit them harder later if needed.