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America Has Made The Whole World Its Enemy...
« on: May 30, 2010, 04:02:32 PM »
IT is never a good thing to create enemy upon enemy as surely your enemies will gather together one day and say at some point...it is time we bring OUR enemy's existence to an end...and to whom will YOU as a nation (america) turn to for help? Though this is a movie it is grounded in truth...america in all of its fakeness, quickly does a 180 degree turn on its "friends/allies" as soon as even the thought of the friend or ally achieving greatness/recognition in any field of sports, military, finance, education etc.

Notice in this remake that CHINA is now the enemy...Amazingly the same China puts over 3 BILLION dollars in the pocket of americas economy everyday; manufactures all of americas trinckets and junk as well as its  top of the line products, and makes much of what you know as america possible...yet the movie maker and america depicts China as the enemy. In the original movie RUSSIA was the enemy...at least at that time the cold war was going on and RUSSIA was NOT putting a single dime into the american economy. America needs to be put across someone knee and its hiney thoroughly tanned.

Red Dawn is being remade, but China ousts Russia as America's new enemy

A remake of the 1984 cold war teen action film says much about America's fear of its declining influence in the world

   
Patrick Swayze, C Thomas Howe and Charlie Sheen fighting a Russian invasion in the original 1984 film Red Dawn. Photograph: Supplied By Alpha

The film was a classic piece of 1980s teen cinema framed against the paranoid geopolitics of the cold war. Red Dawn starred Patrick Swayze and Charlie Sheen as all-American teens leading an armed resistance movement against Soviet troops who had invaded the US.

Feeding on Hollywood's recent appetite for recycling old films, Red Dawn is being remade with a handsome new cast. But there is one vital difference: this time the invading communist army that takes over America is Chinese.

The new-look enemy reflects the changes that have swept the world since the fall of the Berlin Wall. First, the Soviet Union no longer exists, thus hampering any plot driven by its invasion of America. Second, a rich vein of paranoia about the rise of Chinese economic might now runs through American politics.

That would explain the viral spread of leaked stills from the movie showing mocked-up Chinese propaganda posters draped over a "Chinese/American Friendship Centre". The posters play on American fears about their nation's declining economic influence.

"Helping You Back On Your Feet" states one, showing a Chinese hand reaching down to pull up an American one. "Rebuilding Your Reputation" states another, with a Chinese communist star imposed over a map of America that has a large crack down the middle.

The film, due to be released later this year, is being shot on a budget of $75m and, like the original, features a roster of emerging stars rather than established A-list names. They include Connor Cruise, the son of Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman; Chris Hemsworth, who was in the last Star Trek movie; and Isabel Lucas, who starred in Transformers.

However, the appeal of the film lies not in its acting talent but, like the first one, in its ability to reflect the worries of a troubled nation. The original Red Dawn, written by John Milius, who wrote the original script for Apocalypse Now, was a huge hit on its release in 1984. Its hyper-patriotism and depiction of ordinary American teenagers fighting off the "red menace" chimed with the mood of Ronald Reagan's America. It might not have been subtle, but it was a box-office hit that went on to be named a favourite conservative movie of all time. The hunt for Saddam Hussein after the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was named Operation Red Dawn in tribute to the movie.

The new Red Dawn is expected to follow in those cultural footsteps, albeit with a different enemy and reflecting not a nuclear-armed global stand-off, but rather America's fears over economic decline. The plot appears fairly close to the original. The invading Chinese troops use the pretext of America's economic problems to invade. Patriotic young people fight back against China's People's Liberation Army and the collaborators who work with them.

The Awl, a New York-based satirical website, last week obtained a leaked early copy of the script, which contained numerous scenes of high patriotism and a soundtrack that featured country star Toby Keith singing the song Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue. That theme has been taken up by the Asian media too. "US paranoia seen in new Red Dawn," said a headline on the Asia Times's website. Writer Ben Shobert went on to note: "The movie and its villains say much about current insecurities."

But cultural paranoia is only effective if based on some level of reality, and there is little doubt that America now regards the rise of China as the next major threat to its global dominance. Over the past decade China has pursued an active foreign policy in Africa and Latin America. Its rapidly growing economy is quickly catching up with the United States and it has recovered much quicker from the recent recession, which the US is still feeling. Such things have led to a strain of anti-Chinese sentiment in some parts of American politics and the media.

Those themes are played on in the new film, especially when depicting the surprise Chinese military attack that takes over the country. Yet perhaps the strongest symbol of America's decline and China's rise in the Red Dawn remake does not come from the movie's sets or script or even its plot. It comes from the fact that much of the movie was shot in and around the battered industrial city of Detroit. The city's emptying streets and many abandoned factories were seen as the perfect real-life backdrop for the city's war scenes.
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Re: America Has Made The Whole World Its Enemy...
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2010, 04:18:07 PM »


You are sooooo gonna piss 333 off with that post.
It's his favourite movie. Infact, he probably jerks off to it,
and would most likely marry it if he could.  :D
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2010, 04:20:00 PM »


You are sooooo gonna piss 333 off with that post.
It's his favourite movie. Infact, he probably jerks off to it,
and would most likely marry it if he could.  :D
How you been, sweetie?
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Re: America Has Made The Whole World Its Enemy...
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2010, 04:22:05 PM »
How you been, sweetie?

I've been great! How about you? Are you home now... or back in China?
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2010, 06:57:04 PM »


You are sooooo gonna piss 333 off with that post.
It's his favourite movie. Infact, he probably jerks off to it,
and would most likely marry it if he could.  :D

I am ready for him...lol. 3 needs a good hiney tanning himself in this regard. The blind belief in government, in government military actions, in government LIES AND CORRUPTION, in politics is down right annoying at times. I just wonder how much must happen for someone to finally see what their country is all about.

I wanna see this picture when it comes out as well as see the fallout from China if it really depicts them in a very bad light. Just the idea that a movie shows China invading america already says too much. It doesn't take much to scare and mentally manipulate the minds of the average american. This will have quite a blowback if done incorrectly.
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Re: America Has Made The Whole World Its Enemy...
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2010, 08:04:29 PM »
I am ready for him...lol. 3 needs a good hiney tanning himself in this regard. The blind belief in government, in government military actions, in government LIES AND CORRUPTION, in politics is down right annoying at times. I just wonder how much must happen for someone to finally see what their country is all about.

I kind of got the impression he doesn't believe in government, just grab yer guns and go vigilante style.

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I wanna see this picture when it comes out as well as see the fallout from China if it really depicts them in a very bad light. Just the idea that a movie shows China invading america already says too much. It doesn't take much to scare and mentally manipulate the minds of the average american. This will have quite a blowback if done incorrectly.

Yep,The mindless propaganda that's sure to be in it, or the delicate walk on egg shells so as not to offend china will be interesting to watch, ...either way it should be a good for a laugh.

I had an ex-boyfriend who used to cry every time he saw the Godfather.  ::)
I can picture 333 in the theatre with tears rolling down his cheeks, making his popcorn all soggy.  ;D
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2010, 08:29:07 PM »
I kind of got the impression he doesn't believe in government, just grab yer guns and go vigilante style.

He talks much about the Commando type operations, but truth is those type will never use the guns they have when they have to use them. He believes in politicians: Chris Christy, Rand and the type that speak the things he likes/wants to hear, but history shows that these type NEVER deliver on their promises...as none of the others do as well.

Yep,The mindless propaganda that's sure to be in it, or the delicate walk on egg shells so as not to offend china will be interesting to watch, ...either way it should be a good for a laugh.

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I had an ex-boyfriend who used to cry every time he saw the Godfather.  ::)
I can picture 333 in the theatre with tears rolling down his cheeks, making his popcorn all soggy.  ;D

Why was your boyfriend crying over the Godfather? If you said Beaches, Steel Magnolias etc or one of those tear jerker movies...yeah maybe...but the Godfather..What the....

As for 3, lets hope he does not carry his gun into the theatre and get carried away in the film believing he is going to save america by getting the "commie Chinese"  ::)  Oh boy... I have to see what he says about this. He hasn't been on the board today it seems... Either his keyboard is broken or motherboard has died..
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Re: America Has Made The Whole World Its Enemy...
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2010, 08:53:30 PM »
Anyone who draws conclusions from movies should wake up and realize they are just that, movies.

It would be like saying we're all lunatic psychopathic murderers after watching "American Psycho". 

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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2010, 09:01:44 PM »
He talks much about the Commando type operations, but truth is those type will never use the guns they have when they have to use them. He believes in politicians: Chris Christy, Rand and the type that speak the things he likes/wants to hear, but history shows that these type NEVER deliver on their promises...as none of the others do as well.

Why was your boyfriend crying over the Godfather? If you said Beaches, Steel Magnolias etc or one of those tear jerker movies...yeah maybe...but the Godfather..What the....

Let's just say he was Italian, and saw a way of life that hit a little too close to home... nuff said.  :-X

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As for 3, lets hope he does not carry his gun into the theatre and get carried away in the film believing he is going to save america by getting the "commie Chinese"  ::) 


OMG ...I was thinking the exact same thing. lol. 333 opening up in the theatre screaming "Wolverines!"

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Oh boy... I have to see what he says about this. He hasn't been on the board today it seems... Either his keyboard is broken or motherboard has died..


He'd probably try to divert attention away from himself, and start screaming something off base about gas caps  :-\

Maybe he can't get a signal on his IPhone... or maybe... dju think he got rounded up and sent to a camp?  :D
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Re: America Has Made The Whole World Its Enemy...
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2010, 09:03:10 PM »
Anyone who draws conclusions from movies should wake up and realize they are just that, movies.

It would be like saying we're all lunatic psychopathic murderers after watching "American Psycho". 

In case you haven't noticed, SamsonEnterprises is arguably the stupidest person on Getbig. Given her posting history, do you really expect that dumb bitch to be able to distinguish reality from fiction?

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Re: America Has Made The Whole World Its Enemy...
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2010, 09:08:44 PM »
Anyone who draws conclusions from movies should wake up and realize they are just that, movies.

It would be like saying we're all lunatic psychopathic murderers after watching "American Psycho". 

Movies aren't always "just movies". They can be a huge propaganda tool in the hands of those who know how to use it for that purpose, ...and trust me when I tell you, there are plenty that do.

The flickering screen has the ability to induce a trance-like state in people making them susceptible to subtley placed messages. And reinforcing and anchoring those messages through music and the manipulation of body chemistry. I'm not necessarily referring to subliminals either. I'm talking about the message of a film whatever that message may be.
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2010, 10:36:50 PM »
Anyone who draws conclusions from movies should wake up and realize they are just that, movies.

It would be like saying we're all lunatic psychopathic murderers after watching "American Psycho". 

Agree.

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Re: America Has Made The Whole World Its Enemy...
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2010, 10:47:23 PM »
SAMSON enterprises has made logic and personal hygiene his/her enemy.

So far, the enemy is losing big time.

It takes discipline and an unbreakable streak of delusion to post comments to yourself with a gimmick over and over and over again.

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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2010, 11:01:35 PM »
It takes discipline and an unbreakable streak of delusion to post comments to yourself with a gimmick over and over and over again.

my sentiments exactly.

youre a first-class shitbag samson/jag. I appreciate the dedication, though.  :)

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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2010, 11:58:11 PM »
{sigh} I'm surrounded by imbeciles!  ::)
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Re: America Has Made The Whole World Its Enemy...
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2010, 12:06:22 AM »
Almost an entire post of one person talking to themselves. Red Dawn......classic..new Red Dawn...just dumb.
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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2010, 09:21:22 AM »
Almost an entire post of one person talking to themselves. Red Dawn......classic..new Red Dawn...just dumb.

Yeah,  i can't see them doing anything but screwing up that movie. 

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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2010, 03:24:34 PM »
From the title of your thread SAMSON, with this post here:

Americans have lived like dainty women. No discomfort, no pain, no ills and as I said earlier no famines, no pestilences, no droughts...NOTHING!


Envy's a bitch, eh?

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Re: America Has Made The Whole World Its Enemy...
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2010, 03:51:55 PM »


You are sooooo gonna piss 333 off with that post.
It's his favourite movie. Infact, he probably jerks off to it,
and would most likely marry it if he could.  :D

1.  Its one of my favorite movies. 

2.  I dont jerk off to it.


3.  Yeah, i am going to marry it.  Brilliant.  Whats' your iq again? 

4.  The USSR really worked out well no? 

5.  We have our problems, and they are many, but guess what, most of the world is in as bad a shape or worse than we are. 

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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2010, 05:09:48 PM »
1.  Its one of my favorite movies.  

2.  I dont jerk off to it.


3.  Yeah, i am going to marry it.  Brilliant.  Whats' your iq again?  

4.  The USSR really worked out well no?  

5.  We have our problems, and they are many, but guess what, most of the world is in as bad a shape or worse than we are.  

1. I know that.

2. Thank Goodness for small mercies.

3. I forgot, in the US one can only marry someone of the opposite sex and no one has classified movies as feminine or masculine yet. sorry my bad. but as Jesse Jackson likes to say you can always keep hope alive.  :D btw: 160

4. no it didn't. one would think the US would look at the example set by the USSR and reign in the spending. guess not. But hey, ...you can always look to the USSR as a precursor to your future.

5. Canada isn't one of them.  :D  Infact, we came through this with surprisingly very minimal damage
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Re: America Has Made The Whole World Its Enemy...
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2010, 07:02:51 PM »
my sentiments exactly.

youre a first-class shitbag samson/jag. I appreciate the dedication, though.  :)

IP's are logged. If Jag / Samson are one in the same the moderators could easily verify it via the IP addresses. Unless he is remotely logging in to a computer at a different location and posting from there. How do you know for a fact the accounts are the same person?

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« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2010, 07:19:43 PM »
IP's are logged. If Jag / Samson are one in the same the moderators could easily verify it via the IP addresses. Unless he is remotely logging in to a computer at a different location and posting from there. How do you know for a fact the accounts are the same person?
not true, we can't see their IP. Ron can.  Plus just about everyone here knows how to use a proxy if they want.

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« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2010, 07:53:13 PM »
not true, we can't see their IP. Ron can.  Plus just about everyone here knows how to use a proxy if they want.
Ok. Most proxies are slow as hell though. I last used a proxy in 1995.

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« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2010, 08:02:03 PM »
Ok. Most proxies are slow as hell though. I last used a proxy in 1995.
There's pretty cheap anonymous programs that use fast proxies.  And I'm sure there are some here that use the slower ones anyway.

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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2010, 08:31:58 PM »
not true, we can't see their IP. Ron can.  Plus just about everyone here knows how to use a proxy if they want.

Then Ron needs to get his ass in gear and settle this once & for all!  >:(

Not entirely true... I don't know how to use one, ...but learning sounds like fun.  :D
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