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problems after coming off gh
« on: May 30, 2010, 05:37:12 PM »
Iv been having some fucked up side effects after coming off gh...I was using 5ius a day for about a year now and I discontinued it just about two weeks ago..lately iv been getting tremors, feeling dizzy, brain feeling foggy..heart palpitations...I went to the ER and they told me my blood work was good and that my heart was good also..they didn't check my blood sugar tho and I'm thinkin it has something to do with insulin resistance or my thyroid? Has anyone else had any issues like this from prolonged growth use? I don't think this could be from AAS...anyways I'm gonna see another doctor this week but I'm pretty nervous because these symptoms can get pretty intense...I appreciate the feedback

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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2010, 06:30:49 PM »
sounds like you are mildly hypo, are you eating enough? 
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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2010, 06:40:20 PM »
I was very strict with low carbs but now I'm taking in a lot more carbs so the sides aren't bad...this fucking sucks dude...hoping my hormones will bounce back soon

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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2010, 06:40:32 PM »
Had the same problems last christmas, i went clean off everything, AAS and HGH, for 2 months, had tremors,dizzy,weak feeling, eating food made it go away,try eating as often as you can, it worked for me ;)
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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2010, 06:57:41 PM »
How long did it take for the tremors,dizzy, weak feeling to go away?

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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2010, 07:13:08 PM »
How long did it take for the tremors,dizzy, weak feeling to go away?

as long as i ate it went away, soon as i got the feeling i would eat something, after a few weeks i was fine
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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2010, 07:21:04 PM »
Thanks bro I'm hoping this symptoms go away ASAP its fuckin scary at times

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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2010, 07:35:09 PM »
honestly i had felt like that after a really hard AAS cycle

basicly what i was doing and stopped doing was

go from junk to clean food only while having a couple meals a day
from few cigarettes to none
drinking barely any water to atleast 4L a day
going from 5-6 hours sleep to 8-9
from eca to nothing (im back on though right now)
took a month off training and going back to 5 days

it took me a SOLID 2-3 months to recover and i haven't felt better ever since

take what you need from what i wrote and implement it to your situation.. gives you an idea

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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2010, 07:51:23 PM »
It took you a solid 2 to 3 months to recover from feeling dizzy,weak, having tremors and heart palpitations? I came off everything except I'm cruising right now with 250mgs of test

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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2010, 11:44:56 AM »
GH can mess with your body and cause this, might want to get your blood sugar checked. This might take a while to get back to normal.

If you are having dizzy spells you need to get your BS checked ASAP.

This has happen to quite a few people i know.

Good luck and keep us posted.


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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2010, 03:53:28 PM »
Have you had a panic attack before?

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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2010, 10:28:08 PM »
It took you a solid 2 to 3 months to recover from feeling dizzy,weak, having tremors and heart palpitations? I came off everything except I'm cruising right now with 250mgs of test

pretty much actually it took longer, i was broken up in january and only lately couple weeks i've been feeling like my normal self
when i stopped the cycle i had also broken up with my gf which made it worse....

depression is no laughing matter i was suicidal before..

i had no motivation, no energy, always tired, etc

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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2010, 11:35:01 AM »
My blood sugar is in check...yes I believe I have had a panic attack during this cycle mayb because I was taking 800mgs of eq and suspected it was overdosed.I also did break up with my gf had a lot of shit goin on in my life..the problems really got bad when I stopped the growth hormone..all my blood tests come up good...overload what is a BS test? Hopefully I can bounce back from this soon cuz Iv been out of work because of how lethargic I feel

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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2010, 12:17:57 PM »
overload what is a BS test?

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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2010, 01:17:28 PM »
Yea I just got that checked out nd my thyroid is also good to go...I guess my body isn't producing growth hormone on its own...the sides are startin to get a little better but not thast much...I'm just going to wait it out nd see an endocrinologist at the end of the month...I def didn't expect this to happen after coming off...I'm goin to be on test and dbol for now nd bump the dosage back up once I feel better

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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2010, 04:17:38 AM »
Yea I just got that checked out nd my thyroid is also good to go...I guess my body isn't producing growth hormone on its own...the sides are startin to get a little better but not thast much...I'm just going to wait it out nd see an endocrinologist at the end of the month...I def didn't expect this to happen after coming off...I'm goin to be on test and dbol for now nd bump the dosage back up once I feel better
Been using gh since 2002 and never had any of the syptoms you've described when I quit.  Let me ask you AGAIN, why aren't you using peptides?

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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2010, 09:34:33 AM »
I honestly thought those ghrp6 peptides or whatever its called were bullshit...i didnt really know much about them...im going to look into that for the next time i go on gh...my sides are starting to get better each day...you always used peptides when coming off gh?

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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2010, 05:25:19 PM »
Been using gh since 2002 and never had any of the syptoms you've described when I quit.  Let me ask you AGAIN, why aren't you using peptides?

The peptide market is unreliable. End of story.

If we could obtain legit peptides then I'm sure we could make a fair assessment. Until that time...

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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2010, 05:55:30 PM »
Agreed

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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2010, 10:19:16 PM »
I've got a few vials of GHRP-6 and I don't even think its worth cracking open a new vial of bacteriostatic water to be honest.

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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2010, 02:55:28 AM »
I've got a few vials of GHRP-6 and I don't even think its worth cracking open a new vial of bacteriostatic water to be honest.
You're supposed to use it with a ghrh.  G-6 alone isn't very potent.



GHRH (and analogs) + GHSs = a lot of synergistic growth hormone release

There is not a lot of deviation in the published studies on the effect of these peptides and the saturation dose needed to bring about the effect in normal people (who often act as a control group).




We need only to examine the results of the normal test subjects from three oft-cited studies that established the relevant protocol.

In the first study "Inhibition of growth hormone release after the combined administration of GHRH and GHRP-6 in patients with Cushing's syndrome", Alfonso Leal-Cerro..., Clinical Endocrinology 1994, 41 (5) , 649–654, three different peptide/peptide combinations were used.

GHRH was administered alone at 100mcg. This resulted in area under the curve (AUC) measured for 120 minutes of GH secretion of 1420 ± 330.

GHRP-6 was administered alone at 100mcg. This resulted in area under the curve (AUC) measured for 120 minutes of GH secretion of 2278 ± 290.

GHRH plus GHRP-6 was administered together at 100mcg each. This resulted in area under the curve (AUC) measured for 120 minutes of GH secretion of 7332 ± 592.

As a single dose these results show that GHRP-6 is about twice as effective as GHRH.

The synergy between GHRH & GHRP-6 is clearly evident as co-administration resulted in twice the benefit of the additive values of single doses of the two peptides.

The second study is the one that established the saturation dose for these peptides often used in other studies. "Growth hormone (GH)-releasing peptide stimulates GH release in normal men and acts synergistically with GH-releasing hormone ", CY Bowers..., J. Clin. Endocrinol. Metab., Apr 1990; 70: 975-982.

In that study GHRH at a dose of 1.0 microgram/kg was administered alone and then together with various doses of GHRP-6 (0.1, 0.3, and 1.0 microgram/kg). They found that the submaximal dosages of 0.1 and 0.3 microgram/kg GHRP-6 plus 1 microgram/kg GHRH did have the effect of stimulating GH release synergistically.

However the larger dose of 1 mcg/kg of GHRP-6 was found to be the saturation dose when used in combination w/ 1 mcg/kg of GHRH.

It is also noteworthy that serum prolactin and cortisol levels rose about 2-fold above base levels only at the 1 microgram/kg dose of GHRP-6 and not at the submaximal dosages.

The final study, "Preserved Growth Hormone (GH) Secretion in Aged and Very Old Subjects after Testing with the Combined Stimulus GH-Releasing Hormone plus GH-Releasing Hexapeptide-6", Micic D..., J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 1998 Jul;83(7):2569-72 is fascinating for several reasons.

By reference to citation it is noted that "GHRH plus GHRP-6 (both at saturating dose) is nowadays considered the most potent stimulus of GH secretion in man being able to restore the GH secretion in states associated with chronic blockade of somatotroph activity.


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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2010, 03:06:20 AM »
I honestly thought those ghrp6 peptides or whatever its called were bullshit...i didnt really know much about them...im going to look into that for the next time i go on gh...my sides are starting to get better each day...you always used peptides when coming off gh?
GH is a peptide and you use it don't you, but the others are bullshit?
Look at the red line on the graph obtained from the test subjects.  Does that look like bullshit?
That spike in natural gh production is from the combination of ghrp + ghrh.

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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2010, 08:30:35 AM »
Recently i've been reading a lot about peptides and you said that ghrp-6 isn't very potent by itself. How about when you combine it with low to average dose aas cycle and/or insulin. Isn't ghrp-6 supposed to spike hgh levels much higher when combined with slin and it must be synergistic with aas... Also there are legal supplements like Hemogex by VPX that contain ghrp-2 but are ment to be taken orally, taken orally it must break down and became useless, because of the stomach acids. They (vpx) say it has been "esterified" but this product must be BS. There have been guys who have injected it, but i have no idea what it, if anything it did for them, also currently there's cheaper "real injectable" peptides than the OTC hemogex... :) Any opinions on the above pray4surf ?
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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2010, 09:27:56 AM »
Yea but the gh i get is made in a US compounding pharmacy...who makes these peptides?

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Re: problems after coming off gh
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2010, 10:03:29 AM »
Yea but the gh i get is made in a US compounding pharmacy...who makes these peptides?

Yeah, who knows? The Chinese, well at least we are not injecting it... Oh wait... :)
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