Israel Attacks Civilian Aid Ships

[Dos Equis]

I don't think what's going on down there is as simple as that and I also don't think either side is free of moral transgressions. 

People will fight for what they believe is right and for many the end justifies the means.   

I don't see anything immoral or illegal that Israel did in this situation, but I see a lot of fault by the people who instigated this dispute. 

Sometimes the ends justifies the means. 

[Colossus_500]

This video has the incident from a couple different angles:

[Dos Equis]

This video has the incident from a couple different angles:

So they gave a warning before boarding the ship and supported delivery of the goods through a different port.  Pretty clear those people wanted a fight. 

[freespirit]

What did you think was goig to happen?

Israel warns you not to come to the military zone border.  Israel asks you again not to come.  Israel repeatedly says they will board and escort you to a detention area if you continue. Israel says all humanitarian goods will go through the proper channels to get to Gaza.

The ships dont care. The ships dont answer. The ships continue to go.  The ships attack the solders that board. The soldiers attack back

If you dont realize that the people on the ships dont care about anything except getting some reaction, you are just plain dumb.

Go yell and scream about the 46 soldiers of the South Korean army that was hit by a sumbmarine missle.

Oh yeah, I guess protests dont matter than.

Same typical crap.

Any other country, it would be called defending themselves.

For Israel, it is something different.

Get your head out of your asses.

You should get YOUR head out of YOUR ass!!

[Skip8282]

Islam is the right way and the only way to peace in this world, that is why it is so important for people to conform and become Muslim or die.  They see the full picture.

Uh...what loco said...

Oh yeah?  Then why are Muslims murdering other Muslims?

[240 is Back]

very sad situation.

US citizen killed on flotilla was reportedly shot four times in head

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0603/citizen-killed-flotilla-reportedly-shot-times-head/

[w8tlftr]

Play with fire and you get burned.

Bravo Zulu, Israel. 

[jtsunami]

Oh yeah?  Then why are Muslims murdering other Muslims?

just like people who label themselves Christians in the United States, but are the furthest from any form of religious person alive...same with Muslims, the people are just saying they are Muslims, and just fronting, they are fair game, not really true Muslims...

jt

[tonymctones]

just like people who label themselves Christians in the United States, but are the furthest from any form of religious person alive...same with Muslims, the people are just saying they are Muslims, and just fronting, they are fair game, not really true Muslims...

jt

kinda like you huh? you think for a second that your ass wouldnt be ripped apart for letting other twinks rip your ass apart? 

im pretty sure they dont take kindly to gays over there but hey what do I know maybe you should make a trip to the mother land and find your islamic roots

[jtsunami]

kinda like you huh? you think for a second that your ass wouldnt be ripped apart for letting other twinks rip your ass apart? 

im pretty sure they dont take kindly to gays over there but hey what do I know maybe you should make a trip to the mother land and find your islamic roots

i have no idea what your talking about

[tonymctones]

i have no idea what your talking about

LOL dont worry there arent any muslims on this board to call you out

[jtsunami]

LOL dont worry there arent any muslims on this board to call you out

back off

[tonymctones]

back off

LMAO did I hit a nerve?

[jtsunami]

LMAO did I hit a nerve?

GRRRRRRRRRR

[Skip8282]

just like people who label themselves Christians in the United States, but are the furthest from any form of religious person alive...same with Muslims, the people are just saying they are Muslims, and just fronting, they are fair game, not really true Muslims...

jt

Just so I have this straight, killing non-Muslims who won't "conform" is being a good, true Muslim.  But, killing another Muslim means that the killer is not a good, true Muslim. 

Are you familiar with the terms "argument of convenience"?

[Soul Crusher]

Praise to the pedophile allah, piss and shit be upon him. 

[jtsunami]

Just so I have this straight, killing non-Muslims who won't "conform" is being a good, true Muslim.  But, killing another Muslim means that the killer is not a good, true Muslim.  

Are you familiar with the terms "argument of convenience"?

no, he was saying Muslims kill other Muslims, this is not the case.  The so called Muslims the REAL Muslims kill are pseudo Muslims, they really don't follow the faith and just claim to be Muslim and deserve to have their blood spilled.  Just like people in US who claim to be Christians yet are about the worst people you know..

[benchmstr]

no, he was saying Muslims kill other Muslims, this is not the case.  The so called Muslims the REAL Muslims kill are pseudo Muslims, they really don't follow the faith and just claim to be Muslim and deserve to have their blood spilled.  Just like people in US who claim to be Christians yet are about the worst people you know..

so whenever a full blown muslim parks a car out in front of a market full of explosives, and kills 150 othe muslims.....he isnt really killing other muslims



bench

[jtsunami]

so whenever a full blown muslim parks a car out in front of a market full of explosives, and kills 150 othe muslims.....he isnt really killing other muslims



bench

depends if there are other full blown Muslims inside as you say.  A targeted killing would be more wise in my opinion.

[Fury]

depends if there are other full blown Muslims inside as you say.  A targeted killing would be more wise in my opinion.

You sound like an idiot. And for what it's worth, there's only one Koran. And Allah's word is absolute. The "non-Muslims masquerading as Muslims" as you claim are following what the book tells them. If you deny that, then you're liable for execution.

That's why all these jerk-offs saying that they're interpreting the Koran wrong crack me up. It's infallible. It's not hard to understand. There are over 110 verses calling for violence against non-Muslims. 

[benchmstr]

depends if there are other full blown Muslims inside as you say.  A targeted killing would be more wise in my opinion.

your opinion?....you shouldnt have an opinion....you dont have any first hand knowledge of any of the shit that spews out of your mouth except semen...

bench

[Fury]

your opinion?....you shouldnt have an opinion....you dont have any first hand knowledge of any of the shit that spews out of your mouth except semen...

bench

The ironic thing is that he's a pro-jihad Muslim and yet his heroes in Al Qaeda would behead him on the spot for being a homosexual. But he's a gimmick anyway, and a retarded one at that. Hi Gene! 

[Skip8282]

The ironic thing is that he's a pro-jihad Muslim and yet his heroes in Al Qaeda would behead him on the spot for being a homosexual. But he's a gimmick anyway, and a retarded one at that. Hi Gene! 

From the pics posted, I thought jtsunami was female?

[Skeletor]

A post by Haaretz (israeli newspaper).

Turkish paper releases 'censored' photos of beaten Israeli commandos

Turkey's highest circulating paper, Hurriyet, reports that photos were deleted by Israel, but restored by Turkish activists.
By Haaretz Service Tags: Gaza flotilla Turkey Israel Turkey IDF

Turkey's highest circulating newspaper Hurriyet on Sunday released photos of Israeli navy commandos who had been embroiled in the clash aboard the Gaza-bound Turkish aid ship Mavi Marmara last week.

The Israel Defense Forces released a video depicting the activists aboard the ship attacking the navy commandos. The activists argued that they had been attacked first. Nine activists were killed in the melee, and dozens, including Israeli soldiers, were hurt.

The photos published by Hurriyet on Sunday, under the headline "tears of a commando", Israeli soldiers are seen beaten and bleeding, being carried below deck by Turkish activists.

In the accompanying article, the paper reported that the photos had been censored and deleted by Israeli fighters aiming to prevent embarrassment for Israel and the IDF, but the activists were able to restore them. The paper further reported that in some of the photos, activists belonging to the IHH organization are seen caring for the wounded soldiers.

IHH is the group that organized the flotilla that attempted to carry tons of aid to the blockaded Gaza Strip last week. The Mavi Marmara was one of eight ships that participated in the effort.

The IDF Spokesperson's Unit issued a response to the Turkish photos, saying that the "published pictures serve as clear and unequivocal proof of Israel's repeated arguments that aboard [the Mavi Marmara] were mercenaries who intended to kill Israeli soldiers."

"The photos would have looked different if the soldiers had chosen to shoot every citizen that came their way," the statement continued. "It was only out of empowerment and a deep understanding of the event that the navy commandos were able to tell the difference between peace activists and terrorists."
 

Meanwhile, senior officials in the Israeli Foreign Ministry said Saturday that Israel has no intention of apologizing for the Mavi Marmara raid. The remarks were made in the wake of Turkish threats to sever diplomatic ties with Israel if the latter failed to apologize for harm caused to Turkish citizens.
 

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/turkish-paper-releases-censored-photos-of-beaten-israeli-commandos-1.294443


Notice how it is mentioned Israel tried to delete and censor the pictures from cameras so they wouldn't hurt morale (instead of using them to show they were attacked), but when the pics were recovered and published they said that the pics show the soldiers were indeed attacked. There are some activists holding some sort of sticks and others manhandling the soldiers.
Not sure how the activists supposedly treated the soldiers' wounds, I doubt they would.
Haaretz has blurred out the soldiers' faces and published some pics, hurriyet has the full uncensored pictures.
http://fotogaleri.hurriyet.com.tr/GaleriDetay.aspx?cid=36575&p=7&rid=2

[powerpack]

This was a trap that the Israelis walked straight into.
Anti Israeli propoganda 101