I was feeling good about my roid gains until....

[The True Adonis]

Not self promotion, just a reminder at how sad most fools at the gym are.

Come on man, who cares what other people are doing or not doing in the gym.

Even if you did own everybody, what does that prove and what does that really mean?  Nothing.

[Croatch]

Now I am very curious what your physique looks like.

Only creabloat here.
No gains through drugs.
So, from 150-220lbs here.  Clean or no drugs.

[SF1900]

Wow, great build!!!

[The True Adonis]

Only creabloat here.
No gains through drugs.
So, from 150-220lbs here.  Clean or no drugs.

You need to lose about 40-60 lbs or so to be ripped.

[Croatch]

Sorry I can`t see the point.  Honestly, what are you exactly trying to elicit with such a shirt?

I don`t really care what anyone wears to the gym, but in this case you want people to know what is on the shirt and how it may apply to you.  I also don`t know why you would feel superior to someone taking Steroids?  

I personally don`t care one way or the other with who is doing what.  What if you were to run into Serge Nubret in his prime or Frank Zane in his prime as you watched them lift light weights and you heavier weights?

Would you proclaim that an owning?

I personally don't like what gyms today have become.  Just a fake fest.  Fake tits, muscle, butts...it's atrocious.  People need to quit being pussy's and man up.  Get some real gains, I'm never impressed with these drug users.
I am not superior to someone on gear, just my gains are...haha  Earned all mine, most users...sad gains, mainly drugs.
Embrace it.

[4thAD]

Not self promotion, just a reminder at how sad most fools at the gym are.

Its nothing but self promotion. I could see it if you had some great genetics, but you really look like an every day gym rat. Nothing impressive at all, drugs or no drugs.

[The True Adonis]

I personally don't like what gyms today have become.  Just a fake fest.  Fake tits, muscle, butts...it's atrocious.  People need to quit being pussy's and man up.  Get some real gains, I'm never impressed with these drug users.
I am not superior to someone on gear, just my gains are...haha  Earned all mine, most users...sad gains, mainly drugs.
Embrace it.

You should actually try becoming ripped.  You do realize you have at least 40-60 lbs to shed to be considered shredded.  I wonder if you would carry the same attitude once that fat is dropped...

[SF1900]

Its nothing but self promotion. I could see it if you had some great genetics, but you really look like an every day gym rat. Nothing impressive at all, drugs or no drugs.

You really think he looks like an every day gym rat? I see guys after years of training that don't look like him. I think he looks like your typical guy with pretty good genetics and probably a great work ethic. He is not a monster, but he doesn't look like your every day guy walking around in the gym.

Just my humble opinion.  

[Ex Coelis]

serious respect for posting a picture

solid build, Croatch

[Croatch]

You need to lose about 40-60 lbs or so to be ripped.

I'm a ripped at 200lbs, there about 220lbs.
This shot was from a few years back.

Honestly, I could care less about my physique and is not why I wear a natural shirt.  It's how gains are attained that matters.  Ask anyone how "impressed" they are by steroid users, it'll be the same across the board...cheater, juicehead, etc.
The only people who praise it, are users themselves.  And it's fine, if it's your thing, just don't make it out to be some achievement or pretend you're "hardcore", you're a guy who works out with a drug problem...the end.

[4thAD]

I personally don't like what gyms today have become.  Just a fake fest.  Fake tits, muscle, butts...it's atrocious.  People need to quit being pussy's and man up.  Get some real gains, I'm never impressed with these drug users.
I am not superior to someone on gear, just my gains are...haha  Earned all mine, most users...sad gains, mainly drugs.
Embrace it.

Trust me, real BB'ers using steroids earn their gains. Most train much harder than you ever have. Get some discipline brother, from the looks of that last pic you need it. I'm not trying to hammer you, because you and I could prob be friends in another world. Just saying get off the gym drama.

[Croatch]

You should actually try becoming ripped.  You do realize you have at least 40-60 lbs to shed to be considered shredded.  I wonder if you would carry the same attitude once that fat is dropped...

Is this good enough?

[The True Adonis]

I'm a ripped at 200lbs, there about 220lbs.
This shot was from a few years back.

Honestly, I could care less about my physique and is not why I wear a natural shirt.  It's how gains are attained that matters.  Ask anyone how "impressed" they are by steroid users, it'll be the same across the board...cheater, juicehead, etc.
The only people who praise it, are users themselves.  And it's fine, if it's your thing, just don't make it out to be some achievement or pretend you're "hardcore", you're a guy who works out with a drug problem...the end.

YOU are NOT ripped at your height at 200 lbs unless you are on roids.  Sorry.  Try getting really ripped and you will see.  You are 40-60 lbs overweight from being ripped.

[Croatch]

Trust me, real BB'ers using steroids earn their gains. Most train much harder than you ever have. Get some discipline brother, from the looks of that last pic you need it. I'm not trying to hammer you, because you and I could prob be friends in another world. Just saying get off the gym drama.

You sure know a lot about me, for never having trained or met me.  Congratulations on your intuitiveness.
One shot is bulking, the other is cut.  Only difference...a little less food, 7 hours of boring cardio per week.
Not really much harder.

[ThaRealist]

For all these natural assholes....What do they claim now that "prohoromones" and like products have been deemed steroids???

[4thAD]

Is this good enough?

Def looking better in that pic. Not trying to show any disrespect at all, but you are constantly beating the natty drum.

[Croatch]

For all these natural assholes....What do they claim now that "prohoromones" and like products have been deemed steroids???

Any test booster would be void, I'd assume.

Def looking better in that pic. Not trying to show any disrespect at all, but you are constantly beating the natty drum.

Def looking better in that pic. Not trying to show any disrespect at all, but you are constantly beating the natty drum.

I hear that.  It's a broken fucking record.  Once all the trash clears out of my gym, I'll stop posting.

[Palpatine Q]

So if i were to be training in your gym Croatch...are you going to assume im a gearhead because im bigger and stronger than you ??

[4thAD]

You really think he looks like an every day gym rat? I see guys after years of training that don't look like him. I think he looks like your typical guy with pretty good genetics and probably a great work ethic. He is not a monster, but he doesn't look like your every day guy walking around in the gym.

Just my humble opinion.  

I guess thats the difference of training at a family fitness center and a real hardcore gym huh? You see guys after years of training with no real diet, sleep, or training discipline not look like croatch. He definitely looks like a lot of everyday dedicated lifters in the gym.

[ThaRealist]

Any test booster would be void, I'd assume.I hear that.  It's a broken fucking record.  Once all the trash clears out of my gym, I'll stop posting.

Well, since you want to split hairs....When will naturals be deemed "using" when synthetic supplements get deemed "steroids" (because synthetic vitamins and minerals have been proven to enhance natural testosterone levels)

[Croatch]

So if i were to be training in your gym Croatch...are you going to assume im a gearhead because im bigger and stronger than you ??

Probably.
If you didn't go up or down by 20lbs in 2 months, I'd probably consider you for a natural.  Or, have extreme bloat face...not creatine bloat.  No severe acne breakouts, the no heart look, or other various things giving away these pretenders.

[4thAD]

So if i were to be training in your gym Croatch...are you going to assume im a gearhead because im bigger and stronger than you ??

LOL

[che]

Croatch had bitch tits at the age of 27  natural  .

[4thAD]

Probably.
If you didn't go up or down by 20lbs in 2 months, I'd probably consider you for a natural.  Or, have extreme bloat face...not creatine bloat.  No severe acne breakouts, the no heart look, or other various things giving away these pretenders.

Pretenders LMFAO @ U! Some of us put more heart into what we do than you will ever think of, and you deem us all pretenders. Talk about intuition. Oh btw, I have zero bloat, and zero acne. Those sides can be controlled simply by watching your diet and keeping estrogen in control.

[4thAD]

Croatch had bitch tits at the age of 27  natural  .

looks like a little gyno in that last pic too. Imagine that.