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Re: The U.S. economy has added 982,000 jobs so far in 2010
« Reply #50 on: June 04, 2010, 02:13:14 PM »
By the way,your enthusiasm for the job numbers arent reflected by the stock market as it dropped over 300pts today in response to Hussein Obamas stimulus job growth numbers.

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Re: The U.S. economy has added 982,000 jobs so far in 2010
« Reply #51 on: June 04, 2010, 02:28:25 PM »
wait, i thought DOW wasn't related to obama?  He inherited it at what, 7000, and raised it to over 10,000....

can't shit on him for it dropped, i fyou can't credit him when it grows

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« Reply #52 on: June 04, 2010, 03:33:12 PM »
The purpose of any "Stimulus Bill" is to mortgage the future a bit (or a lot) and spend/borrow/print money to "jump start" the economy. The problem is that most of these bills simply create temporary jobs and govt. jobs. This stim. bill, like all stim bills, is a failure and a waste. It was a HUGE WASTE OF CAPITAL and a HUGE MIS-ALLOCATION of CAPITAL. And poof! It's GONE. The jobs report from last month was bad and this one is worse. The media machines can't even spin it in a positive light, the tickers actually admitted that it was bad and that the "gain" was totally because of govt. hiring. When govt. hiring begins to replace private sector hiring as a means of "growth"....the economy is toast and wealth will no longer be created. Also, keep an eye on the numbers for Total Tax Receipts from State And Federal levels. High or growing receipts under stable tax rates usually = growth. Tanking numbers usually = not good.

The bill and by extension, the Democrats/Obama have failed to jump start anything. MASSIVE expansion of government hiring, tons of debt and  totally anemic private sector hiring does not equal success. I think even if the UE goes under 8% the bill and Obama's "vision" is a total failure. All that money, all the capital, all the time, all the talk and all the propaganda should have UE under 6 or 7% at least.

For all that was expended and wasted to push this garbage and this agenda (both are the same) UE is still at 9.7%? 41k private sector jobs were "stimulated"? 785 Billion dollars for this?

What a joke.

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Re: The U.S. economy has added 982,000 jobs so far in 2010
« Reply #53 on: June 04, 2010, 04:08:56 PM »
Most of the private sector hiring was for service jobs and many of those are temporary as well. It's not like many of these temp jobs are going to help in the grand scheme of things.


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Re: The U.S. economy has added 982,000 jobs so far in 2010
« Reply #54 on: June 04, 2010, 04:15:15 PM »
A good take on things....

Where’s the Beef?
Submitted by madhedgefundtrader on 06/04/2010 15:45 -0500

recovery Unemployment

That was the thorny question wracking the brains of investors Friday morning on the heels of the hugely disappointing nonfarm payroll report showing that 430,000 jobs were gained in May.

Never mind that this was the best report in several years. The problem arises when you dig deeper and find that 411,000 were temporary census workers who are going to be let go in a few months, leaving the “real” job gain at a measly 19,000.
So this is all $887 billion in stimulus and 19 months of zero interest rates get you?

Traders wasted no time tanking the market, taking the Dow down a nausea inducing 350 points. Private sector hiring actually plunged from 218,000 in April to only 41,000, and the overall labor force shrank by 322,000, as if it had just taken a dip in a frigid lake. Construction took a big hit as usual, losing 35,000 jobs, while manufacturing gained a miniscule 29,000 jobs.

There are now more than 15 million unemployed, including 6.8 million who have been jobless for more than six months. Until today’s number, our nine month long recovery produced a net loss of 133,000 jobs! At this stage of the 2003 recovery, we were regularly clocking 200,000-300,000 a month in job gains.


Administration officials wasted no time trumpeting the decline in the headline unemployment figure from 9.8% to 9.7%, while privately wringing their hands over the true meaning of the report. Is Michele Obama already secretly scoping out new private elementary schools in Chicago?

To see the data, charts, and graphs that support this research piece, as well as more iconoclastic and out-of-consensus analysis, please visit me at www.madhedgefundtrader.c om . There, you will find the conventional wisdom mercilessly flailed and tortured daily, and my last two years of research reports available for free. You can also listen to me on Hedge Fund Radio by clicking on the “Today’s Radio Show” menu tab on the left on my home page.

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Makes you think. What an absolute bust and waste this whole exercise in Keynesian Economics has given us. How sad is it that we are on here arguing about the success or failure of 887 billion in Stim. Zero % interest rates, printing of trillions, housing tax credits etc etc for over 2 years....and the deciding factor is if UE gets below 8%......EIGHT PERCENT.

Again....who the fuck are you crappin'?

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Re: The U.S. economy has added 982,000 jobs so far in 2010
« Reply #55 on: June 04, 2010, 04:32:58 PM »
For some of you that still don't get it.




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Re: The U.S. economy has added 982,000 jobs so far in 2010
« Reply #56 on: June 04, 2010, 06:03:54 PM »
So we actually lost private sectors jobs? 

Just great.  Hey 240 - hows that Stim Bill working out?

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Re: The U.S. economy has added 982,000 jobs so far in 2010
« Reply #57 on: June 04, 2010, 11:19:58 PM »
UE dropped from 9.9 to 9.7%.

Now, we'll all just call BS, claim it's all BS, etc...

But be honest... if UE had jumped from 9.9 to 10.1%, we'd all be hearing about how obama ushered in double-digit destruction once again.  it would be his fault.

This is another case of "Blame obama when it's bad, but when it's good, it's obviously a lie".

When Obama rose the DOW from 7000 to 11,000 - it was not his credit.
When the DOW dropped from 11k to 10k?  it's obama's fault.

It's hard to have it both ways. 

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Re: The U.S. economy has added 982,000 jobs so far in 2010
« Reply #58 on: June 05, 2010, 12:21:28 AM »
UE dropped from 9.9 to 9.7%.

  


You do know the real result of that right?

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« Reply #59 on: June 05, 2010, 04:13:20 AM »
UE dropped from 9.9 to 9.7%.

Now, we'll all just call BS, claim it's all BS, etc...

But be honest... if UE had jumped from 9.9 to 10.1%, we'd all be hearing about how obama ushered in double-digit destruction once again.  it would be his fault.

This is another case of "Blame obama when it's bad, but when it's good, it's obviously a lie".

When Obama rose the DOW from 7000 to 11,000 - it was not his credit.
When the DOW dropped from 11k to 10k?  it's obama's fault.

It's hard to have it both ways. 


Stop embarassing yourself.  The numer would have went up but fort he fact they took many workers out of the "looking for work" figure. 

Shilling for obama makes you look like a complete fool 240.  You are smarter than that.

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Re: The U.S. economy has added 982,000 jobs so far in 2010
« Reply #60 on: June 05, 2010, 04:26:14 AM »
You do know the real result of that right?


I don't think he does....

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« Reply #61 on: June 05, 2010, 04:57:23 AM »

I don't think he does....

I also heard they played with the "looking for work" figure and that there were 322,000 less people working than last month, net.

I think the market also tanked because they realize how:

Out of touch
Clueless
Ignorant
Confused
Wrong Headed
Full of themselves

the entire government is when you have absolute idiots like obama and biden on moday -teusday claiming we would get a great report on friday only to see a disaster unfold.