All In The Family

[Tre]

I laughed as a child, but now, 30+ years later, I get ALL the jokes.

That's the mark of truly brilliant comedy.

[65stew]

Short Version (Aired at beginning of episodes)
"Boy the way Glen Miller played, songs that made the hit parade, guys like us we had it made, those were the days, and you know where you were then, girls were girls and men were men, mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again, didn't need no welfare states everybody pulled his weight, gee our old Lasalle ran great, those were the days!"

Classic!

[Tre]

... didn't need no welfare states everybody pulled his weight...

Greatest. Line. Ever.

A classic indeed.  Man, modern TV sure could use an enema. 

[Howard]

Short Version (Aired at beginning of episodes)
"Boy the way Glen Miller played, songs that made the hit parade, guys like us we had it made, those were the days, and you know where you were then, girls were girls and men were men, mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again, didn't need no welfare states everybody pulled his weight, gee our old Lasalle ran great, those were the days!"

Classic!

My fav line is ; "...we sure could use a man like Herbert Hoover again"

[65stew]

Even Better!

Full Version
"Boy, the way Glen Miller played. Songs that made the Hit Parade. Guys like us, we had it made. Those were the days! Didn't need no welfare state. Everybody pulled his weight Gee, our old LaSalle (a car) ran great. Those were the days! And you knew where you were then! Girls were girls and men were men. Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again. People seemed to be content. Fifty dollars paid the rent. Freaks were in a circus tent. Those were the days! Take a little Sunday spin, go to watch the Dodgers win. Have yourself a dandy day that cost you under a fin (five dollar bill). Hair was short and skirts were long. Kate Smith really sold a song. I don't know just what went wrong! Those Were the Days!"

[Howard]

Let us hear from the master

[James Blunt]

[65stew]

That's not Gloria!

[Disgusted]

One of the best shows ever!

[Tapeworm]

Meathead.

[pellius]

Even Better!

Full Version
"Boy, the way Glen Miller played. Songs that made the Hit Parade. Guys like us, we had it made. Those were the days! Didn't need no welfare state. Everybody pulled his weight Gee, our old LaSalle (a car) ran great. Those were the days! And you knew where you were then! Girls were girls and men were men. Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again. People seemed to be content. Fifty dollars paid the rent. Freaks were in a circus tent. Those were the days! Take a little Sunday spin, go to watch the Dodgers win. Have yourself a dandy day that cost you under a fin (five dollar bill). Hair was short and skirts were long. Kate Smith really sold a song. I don't know just what went wrong! Those Were the Days!"

All conservative values. Why does it seem that the majority on this board are flaming liberals?

[gh15]

best show on tv right there with 3s company both are what made america name brand,,,now days america is full of shit back then america was model it went down hill after reagan,,infact now days id say 90 percent of americans are junk that includes everything they produce and the whole usa is simply dissapearing slowly and safely into one big cyberzone controlled by world goverment,,america sadly became niggerville,, and now days most girls are straight out whores and the guys ,,,well the guys are drunks
 
gh15 approved

[Tapeworm]

All conservative values. Why does it seem that the majority on this board are flaming liberals?

I can't speak for others but, despite my general dislike of humans, I remain optimistic that if you provide a suitable environment for people they will tend to thrive.  Welfare is only a finger in the dyke.  I'd like to see a massive urban rescue project that provides actual solutions for the lower class.  Done properly, I believe it would fund itself after awhile.

I'd like to see hardnosed capitalism tempered with a little common sense.  When a vast majority of the wealth has gravitated to a very powerful few, so much so that they can make or break any rule they want, it strikes me that unrestrained capitalism is incompatible with democracy.  How people continue to fail to notice this astounds me.

The so-called conservative take on things strikes me a cynical.  It seems to boil down to the position that there are two kinds of people: the worthy (smart, hardworking, etc) and the unworthy, and that it is unjust for the worthy to have to carry the unworthy.  I am more optimistic and believe that there is no such actual distinction other than the one we have created by mismanagement.  There's no real problem with people, a problem we couldn't hope to fix, but just a problem with how we run shit, and that can be fixed, which is why I consider my view optimistic.  I'm not optimistic that anything will be fixed, however.

I also consider the view that everyone gets what he deserves to be mistaken.  From the claim that I am an exceptionally smart hard worker (assuming I actually am), it does not follow that the garbage man should be paid as little as the next guy willing to be a garbage man would accept.  The hierarchy of society is not unconnected.  I may be a CEO but I still need to have my garbage collected.  To claim that it is justified to screw the garbageman as much as I possibly can seems indecent and contrary to the principal of law, which I interpret basically as protecting the weak from abuses of the strong.  If you want a more practical reason, then there have been garbagemen and other less capable people performing tasks for me all my life, and it is the intact fabric of the society in which I live, as much as my smart hard work, which has allowed me to rise to the position of CEO.  

I question whether the American fabric isn't unraveling.  It seems obvious to me that hardnosed capitalism will yield an oligarchy, not a democratic republic.  I don't see the rightness in dividing a society into haves and have-nots.  When I'm frightened to walk through urban areas, it's better to find out why the people in those areas are so pissed off than it is to just build a higher wall around them while telling them that they're in the Land of Opportunity.  I'd like to see the return of the American Democratic Ideal which seems to have been sold.

[gh15]

america of today is built of racist,,disgusting ,,selfish ,,poor ,,individuals with no souls,,the little americano woman in middle of no where only think about cock and how to get prego on her drunk monthly boyfriend,,the average americano kid is severly overweight,,really today people only come to america to make money since economy is very fucvked and everything is cheap and ready to be bought,,americano goverment will now put 12 million illegal and make them legal which is good step but the country is fallin apart due to the internet age and the severe degration of society into minority groups,,aka usa is no more one it is group of individual smaller groups that hate eachother with passion and only stay together due to financial needs and comfortability,,

the only thing that is good in america is the space,,lots of space ,,the english is no english its american and that should be the language declaired,,everyone should be able to be american and every one shoudl be able to talk and write american ,,,majority of music is garbage beside few groups like the fray etc,,tv is garbage ALL OF IT ,,movies are 95 percent garbage ,,and food is still eatable due to the foreigners who make good asian dishes ,,americanos dissapear faster than they can say poop because they stopped caring,,its huge problem ,,the only thing that wiull fix america is new blood most likley the 12 million illegal will add some new blood but much more is needed to fix america,,mainly new approach from the core,,aka a third party that will be able to sustain and do small goverment with conservative values yet liberal approach to freedom

gh15 approved

[pellius]

All the social ills we experience today stem of the sixties revolution. So many bad ideas came from that era and they are taking fruition today beginning in the late eighties and the leaders of that movement are now teaching in our universities. Even a couple of the good things like civil rights and womens rights eventually became corrupted. Civil rights just devolved from pro minority to anti White and womens rights went from pro women to anti men -- FOR MEN. It's OK for women to be masculine. The New Deal gave people an entitlement mentality were they feel someone else owes them a living. A man use to be ashamed and did everything he could to get off the government dole. Not now. People brag about how they abuse the giveaway programs and get something at someone else's expense. Affirmative action, welfare, rehabilitation over punishment, break down in morals as society became more secular and anti religion, self esteem over self control, moral relativism (who am I to say something is wrong), lack of social stigma on offensive behavior.... the list goes on.

But as bad as America is, it's worse in the Western European countries. The are like the canary in the mine. As they go down the tubes we will shortly follow. I was just watching a Muslim leader bragging how easy it is conquering Europe. They don't even fight back. Just allow the Muslims to slowly take over.

Nothing last forever and I think our days are numbered. When the aptly named, generation nothingness, comes to power and full control then the "slouching towards gomorrah" will be in full swing. But America is still our last best hope. It's no coincidence that we are the only major power, if not the only country, that supports Israel when it would be so easy to throw them to the wolves since we get nothing out of our support but only condemnation.
  

[Matt C]

All the social ills we experience today stem of the sixties revolution. So many bad ideas came from that era and they are taking fruition today beginning in the late eighties and the leaders of that movement are now teaching in our universities. Even a couple of the good things like civil rights and womens rights eventually became corrupted. Civil rights just devolved from pro minority to anti White and womens rights went from pro women to anti men -- FOR MEN. It's OK for women to be masculine. The New Deal gave people an entitlement mentality were they feel someone else owes them a living. A man use to be ashamed and did everything he could to get off the government dole. Not now. People brag about how they abuse the giveaway programs and get something at someone else's expense. Affirmative action, welfare, rehabilitation over punishment, break down in morals as society became more secular and anti religion, self esteem over self control, moral relativism (who am I to say something is wrong), lack of social stigma on offensive behavior.... the list goes on.

But as bad as America is, it's worse in the Western European countries. The are like the canary in the mine. As they go down the tubes we will shortly follow. I was just watching a Muslim leader bragging how easy it is conquering Europe. They don't even fight back. Just allow the Muslims to slowly take over.

Nothing last forever and I think our days are numbered. When the aptly named, generation nothingness, comes to power and full control then the "slouching towards gomorrah" will be in full swing. But America is still our last best hope. It's no coincidence that we are the only major power, if not the only country, that supports Israel when it would be so easy to throw them to the wolves since we get nothing out of our support but only condemnation.
  

Great post!!!

[dr.chimps]

'Haaaa-aaaaah.'

[pellius]

Great post!!!

Now it's your turn my friend. Please explain to the reasonable Tapeworm why it shouldn't bother him that there is a huge gap between the super rich and the rest of us. If someone gets richer does that make you poorer? And how does someone attain great wealth?  If Bill Gates became less productive and successful and his personal wealth dropped by 50% how will that help the poor people? Would the economic pie get bigger or smaller if a successful and profitable person/company becomes less successful and profitable? As a rich man gets richer does his capacity to enrich others (expanding employment) grow or shrink?

[Dreadlifter]

america of today is built of racist,,disgusting ,,selfish ,,poor ,,individuals with no souls,,

gh15 approved

To quote you a few posts earlier ",,america sadly became niggerville,,". Hmm I guess that proves you to be one of individuals you lament. Looks like a self-owning to me.

[drkaje]

It's likely many still don't get that show, LOL!

[Parker]

It's likely many still don't get that show, LOL!

I got early on why a grumpy, bigotted man was married to a slow witted, screachy voiced, dunce of a woman..."Control!"

[Tapeworm]

Now it's your turn my friend. Please explain to the reasonable Tapeworm why it shouldn't bother him that there is a huge gap between the super rich and the rest of us. If someone gets richer does that make you poorer? And how does someone attain great wealth?  If Bill Gates became less productive and successful and his personal wealth dropped by 50% how will that help the poor people? Would the economic pie get bigger or smaller if a successful and profitable person/company becomes less successful and profitable? As a rich man gets richer does his capacity to enrich others (expanding employment) grow or shrink?

I'm no economist bro but it doesn't look to me like much is trickling down.  The rich are richer than ever, and it's not like they're doing a bang-up job of watchdogging economic health for their serfs.

At least Gates is producing something instead of just accruing interest on interest.  But how would I like to see him help the poor?  Not by running a less successful company.  I'd like him to keep $100 million in personal assets, because he's such a clever guy he deserves it, and put the rest toward a worthy cause.  Not a gift to the unemployed, but how about a training program for the poor, including a job placement service in a position where you can make a living wage with just the one job?  How about Bill Gates University, where you can attend for the same cost as going to high school?  I'll accept that the rich deserve to be rich, but there is a point where enough wealth is enough and they should use the rest to help people or enrich their society in some way.  And if someone won't we should nationalize their shit and boo them out of the country.

Money flows up and shit flows down.  That's the way it is and that's fine by me, but only up to a point.  We have passed that point imo and things are getting awfully stacked up at both ends, and that tells me something ought to change.

[newmom]

At least Gates is producing something instead of just accruing interest on interest.  But how would I like to see him help the poor?  Not by running a less successful company.  I'd like him to keep $100 million in personal assets, because he's such a clever guy he deserves it, and put the rest toward a worthy cause.  Not a gift to the unemployed, but how about a training program for the poor, including a job placement service in a position where you can make a living wage with just the one job?  How about Bill Gates University, where you can attend for the same cost as going to high school?  I'll accept that the rich deserve to be rich, but there is a point where enough wealth is enough and they should use the rest to help people or enrich their society in some way.  And if someone won't we should nationalize their shit and boo them out of the country.

I really don't know how much he gives but there is a Bill Gates Foundation, if Im not mistaken the name of his charity. You know what erks me, all these rich celebraties, that give to such relief as Haitian earthquake and the alike (Im not knocking them for giving and do realize they do give some to charities in the US). How about pumping more into such aspects as Tapeworm stated. Oprah opens a school for girls in S. Africa which is all fine and well, but what about US kids whos only decent meal is what they get at school.

[drkaje]

I got early on why a grumpy, bigotted man was married to a slow witted, screachy voiced, dunce of a woman..."Control!"

I really think he was more ignorant than bigoted.

Still, Archie was a good person, took care of his family and generally treated every one the same. Even back then, the world was passing him by.

[Tapeworm]

I really don't know how much he gives but there is a Bill Gates Foundation, if Im not mistaken the name of his charity. You know what erks me, all these rich celebraties, that give to such relief as Haitian earthquake and the alike (Im not knocking them for giving and do realize they do give some to charities in the US). How about pumping more into such aspects as Tapeworm stated. Oprah opens a school for girls in S. Africa which is all fine and well, but what about US kids whos only decent meal is what they get at school.

I'm sure Bill and many others give away plenty, which is good of them.  I just wanted to respond to the 'captains of industry' argument that Pellius presented with the same Bill Gates example he used.

Don't worry.  I won't run Bill Gates out of the country until I have all the facts of his case.