Stevan Segal - accomplished martial arts expert!

[XFACTOR]

Carradine had such good BJJ he could choke himself.

You should see MuscleMcMary's BJ

[MuscleMcMannus]

I'm no boxer or jiu-jitsu expert but what fights I have been in ended up mostly me grabbing the guy and either slamming his head on the ground or table or into a wall.  I have never had anyone get away from me once I grab them.  I have knocked out quite a few people too. I even choked a guy out once back when I was with Rorian Gracie. My friends used to say I hit harder than anyone they've seen.  But in reality my old friend Craig Kukuk hit harder than me and anyone I have ever seen up close.  Anyone who has taken Gracie Jiu-Jitsu would know who Craig is.  If he was allowed to fight in the UFC back in the early 90's he would have been champion no doubt.  And anyone who knows Craig would say the same thing.  In fact the Gracies themselves said the same thing (till their falling out).  Craig was the first american black belt in Gracies jiu-jitsu in which I introduced him too.  In addition, I have a feeling not many of you have actually seen Segal in person.  I know he is fat now but that comes with age.  I saw him back in the early 90's or late 80's at a casino as we walked by each other.  And I gotta tell you he is a very big guy.  I know several people who know him and he was very solid and strong.  It comes with being tall with the long arms.  There is no doubt he can fight no matter what people are saying.  Just his size and strength make him somewhat of a threat.

John Petrone who I trained under for a few years fucking grappled with and associated with several of the Gracies you fat fuck!  Get a fucking life!  You're a fat, out of shape can of crisco living off the fumes of your 20's and 30's.  pathetic! 

[Power]

John Petrone who I trained under for a few years fucking grappled with and associated with several of the Gracies you fat fuck!  Get a fucking life!  You're a fat, out of shape can of crisco living off the fumes of your 20's and 30's.  pathetic! 

Wow, such anger and animosity.  Is it that time of the month at the VAJ school?  Perhaps it would help you to post another video to show us what a great place it is.  You know, give them a plug.

[noworries]

John Petrone who I trained under for a few years fucking grappled with and associated with several of the Gracies you fat fuck!  Get a fucking life!  You're a fat, out of shape can of crisco living off the fumes of your 20's and 30's.  pathetic! 

yea yea yea yea.  I have a feeling your way of grappling is different from actual grappling.  Rolling on the floor naked with another man and having a goal of achieving a north/south position is NOT grappling to real men.  Please keep your shit to yourself.  Where are those videos of you fighting and the pics of all your medals you won in the 5 wars you fought in. 

[Natural Man]

  Who the fuck are you dumbass?  Keith is one of the biggest fucking losers on this board.  A grown 40 year old pre diabetic marshemellow fat ass living off his pathetic past accomplishments.  I mean fuck........any grown man that spends as much time posting on getbig and trying to own others has got no life.  I mean seriously, does this guy have a woman in his life?  Kids?  A family?  A career?  Is he independently wealthy?  Yeah I'm sure.......that's why he runs a t-shirt company..........   He's one of those old burn out dudes that never grew up to handle his responsbilities.  He'll be living off disability and sucking off social security posting on getbig about his recent weighloss and health problems well into his 60's.  LOL...utter pathetic!  The reason he has such a hard on for me is because he knows what I say about him is true!  You can read guys like him like a fucking book.  We see them in the gym, at the bars, walking down the street. 

Accomplishments ? what did he accomplish lol. You cant even give him that.

[Natural Man]

That's an ignorant and bullshit claim. I've been practicing Aikido for 8.5 years now and trust me, what you see in Above The Law is the REAL SHIT. These MMA guys would not be able to TOUCH, let alone do ANYTHING to Segal.

lol...i doubt it... he would be smashed into jam in 10 seconds.

[pellius]

I'm no boxer or jiu-jitsu expert but what fights I have been in ended up mostly me grabbing the guy and either slamming his head on the ground or table or into a wall.  I have never had anyone get away from me once I grab them.  I have knocked out quite a few people too. I even choked a guy out once back when I was with Rorian Gracie. My friends used to say I hit harder than anyone they've seen.  But in reality my old friend Craig Kukuk hit harder than me and anyone I have ever seen up close.  Anyone who has taken Gracie Jiu-Jitsu would know who Craig is.  If he was allowed to fight in the UFC back in the early 90's he would have been champion no doubt.  And anyone who knows Craig would say the same thing.  In fact the Gracies themselves said the same thing (till their falling out).  Craig was the first american black belt in Gracies jiu-jitsu in which I introduced him too.  In addition, I have a feeling not many of you have actually seen Segal in person.  I know he is fat now but that comes with age.  I saw him back in the early 90's or late 80's at a casino as we walked by each other.  And I gotta tell you he is a very big guy.  I know several people who know him and he was very solid and strong.  It comes with being tall with the long arms.  There is no doubt he can fight no matter what people are saying.  Just his size and strength make him somewhat of a threat.

I've had the pleasure of being brutally tooled on the mat with Craig back in the early-mid 1990s. I still have some video of Renzo and him doing an instructional video. Should be a collectors item by now.

[noworries]

I've had the pleasure of being brutally tooled on the mat with Craig back in the early-mid 1990s. I still have some video of Renzo and him doing an instructional video. Should be a collectors item by now.

I never saw Craig and how good he was.  I moved to Hawaii.  He was really strong.  His grip was unreal.  You know the story behind the videos don't you.   They all hate each other now.  Did you ever see me at Tequilla Willies

[drkaje]

Carradine had such good BJJ he could choke himself.

I'd be willing to bet most of our internet experts are barely skilled enough to choke much more than their chickens.

[pellius]

I never saw Craig and how good he was.  I moved to Hawaii.  He was really strong.  His grip was unreal.  You know the story behind the videos don't you.   They all hate each other now.  Did you ever see me at Tequilla Willies

I remember you use to bounce at Tequilla Willies. I remember once when a friend of mine starting really getting unruly and I noticed it caught your eye and you started making your way toward him. I immediately got up and grabbed my friend and said, "Lets go outside for a sec. I have to tell you something." It was just an excuse to get him out of there. As I was taking him outside I just nodded at you to let you know it was OK. I then started in on my bud on how I just saved him from an ass whipping. But, that's why I never and have never been drunk.

I only got Renzo's side of the story. He said Craig was stealing from him. I didn't really know Craig other than just getting crushed in his side mount but I know Renzo. You will not find a better more honorable man than Renzo Gracie. His brothers Ralph and, the thankfully decease, Ryan were thugs with Ryan being a border line psychopath but Renzo came out as a man I wanted to aspire to be. Anybody who likes to poke fun at Jiu-Jitsu and think it's nonsense should spend an hour with Renzo. You will leave there loving Jiu-Jitsu and loving Renzo.

[Ropo]

Hey fuck stick I trained under David James out of New York City and Bayonne New Jersey.  Come on up to our schools and I'll show you what real "martial arts" is all about.  www.veearnisjitsu.com  Steven Segal is fucking bullshit.  Sorry to ruin your world and everything you believe in .  LMAO! Fucking getbig.........

How nice it must be, when you can claim anything you want without any evidence about anything claimed. Like in a sandbox when you were a little boy not so long time ago. MY dad is stronger then YOUR dad etc. Fact is that Segal has some evidence for his claims, it is a known fact that he was the first foreigner who has been allowed to start his own dojo for teaching japanese martial art in japan, long time before he start his so called acting career, which has make him a millionaire. Your world and his world meet only when he stops on the traffic lights and you come up to wash the windshield of his car to get few coins for your drugs. You may have been under David and James among plenty of other guys, but what has the fact that you are gay has to do with this matter? You are little just a little boy who think that he is something while everybody knows that you aren't nothing. Try to live with that  

[noworries]

I remember you use to bounce at Tequilla Willies. I remember once when a friend of mine starting really getting unruly and I noticed it caught your eye and you started making your way toward him. I immediately got up and grabbed my friend and said, "Lets go outside for a sec. I have to tell you something." It was just an excuse to get him out of there. As I was taking him outside I just nodded at you to let you know it was OK. I then started in on my bud on how I just saved him from an ass whipping. But, that's why I never and have never been drunk.

I only got Renzo's side of the story. He said Craig was stealing from him. I didn't really know Craig other than just getting crushed in his side mount but I know Renzo. You will not find a better more honorable man than Renzo Gracie. His brothers Ralph and, the thankfully decease, Ryan were thugs with Ryan being a border line psychopath but Renzo came out as a man I wanted to aspire to be. Anybody who likes to poke fun at Jiu-Jitsu and think it's nonsense should spend an hour with Renzo. You will leave there loving Jiu-Jitsu and loving Renzo.

Yea tequilla willies was a fun fun place.  The story I heard was that Craig wanted to do a set of instructional tapes.  Renzo told him to go ahead because Craig needed some money to get things going and Renzo I guess didn't want to put any money into it.  So Craig did them and put up the money himself (I think his wife did it since she came from a very wealthy family and in fact paid for the first couple academys).  Nothing came from it (selling of the tapes) until they took off and he sold over a million dollars worth.  Then Rorian got involved and whoever else and Craig told them sorry he got permission to use their name and they were shit out of luck.  Which in reality they were.  Rorian then began charging family members a fee to use the gracie name.  He trademarked it and owned it.  So no gracie could open a school using their name unless they paid Rorian a license fee.  I think it was for 5 years and then after that they could use it without paying.  It really got the family in a battle.  I am not really sure of all the details but that is what I got.  It was to bad at the time.  The gracies are a great family and I really am honored I got to know them

[oldtimer1]

I trained under Craig when he was in that Red Bank, NJ martial arts school.  I don't think he owned it.  I think it was David Lenz (spelling).  I brought the Gracie training tapes at the time.  What I didn't realize at the time is that they kept the good techniques off the instructional tapes.  If you used the shown method of passing the guard you just gave your opponent a perfect triangle opportunity. I got choked everytime until I learned that it was a horrible way to pass the guard and no Gracie would even think about using it. At least at the time Craig's tapes were the cutting edge in instruction. 

[noworries]

I trained under Craig when he was in that Red Bank, NJ martial arts school.  I don't think he owned it.  I think it was David Lenz (spelling).  I brought the Gracie training tapes at the time.  What I didn't realize at the time is that they kept the good techniques off the instructional tapes.  If you used the shown method of passing the guard you just gave your opponent a perfect triangle opportunity. I got choked everytime until I learned that it was a horrible way to pass the guard and no Gracie would even think about using it. At least at the time Craig's tapes were the cutting edge in instruction. 

I think Craig opened a couple locations in Philly.  I have not seen Craig since around 94 or so.  And then it was only when I went over to our friends house he was there.  We used to be close back in the 80's.  He was a good friend.

[delta9mda]

I'm no martial arts expert, but that looks a tad choreographed.

i am an aikido shodan, i dont fall down for people on purpose. until you get thrown by one of these guy you will never understand.

[WhiteCastle]

People take martial arts because they dream of getting thrown around and dancing with other men.