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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2010, 03:24:10 PM »
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-06-08-immigration_N.htm

No Toxie... they got it WRONG!!!

The actual headline is "HISPANICS" not "illegals".

The law clearly targets hispanics, and hispanics have chosen to leave a state that essentially targets them.
Only on the premise that the law was racially motivated by white supremacists, can one say 'they got it right'

I doubt you would understand unless and until the islamophobia got so heated that your family decided to pack up and leave the USA for some other country that won't target them, harrass them, or assume they are criminal terrorists simply because of their ethnicity.
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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2010, 04:40:35 PM »
No Toxie... they got it WRONG!!!

The actual headline is "HISPANICS" not "illegals".

The law clearly targets hispanics, and hispanics have chosen to leave a state that essentially targets them.
Only on the premise that the law was racially motivated by white supremacists, can one say 'they got it right'

I doubt you would understand unless and until the islamophobia got so heated that your family decided to pack up and leave the USA for some other country that won't target them, harrass them, or assume they are criminal terrorists simply because of their ethnicity.
explain how this targets hispanics please...

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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2010, 04:58:34 PM »
Other than USA today no one will ever notice or care, LOL! Even better, Arizona can probably save tons of money on crap like social services and creating bilingual signs, paperwork and everything else to help people who refuse to speak American.

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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2010, 05:03:07 PM »
They should offer free busing to Los Angeles. :)

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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2010, 05:24:09 PM »
They should offer free busing to Los Angeles. :)

I was thinking Mexico..... to balance out some of the illegals always sneaking in. :)

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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2010, 05:29:22 PM »
Juan Carlos Cruz, an illegal immigrant who has worked in plant nurseries for 20 years, huddled with dozens of relatives over the Memorial Day Weekend in the backyard of his brother's Phoenix-area home to plot out the family's next move to avoid what they say will be harassment by police. Virginia and California are the front-runners.

"If I were alone, I'd try to stay. But I have a family, and I have to find a place where we can live with more freedom," said Cruz, who hopes to move July 4 to blend in with holiday weekend traffic. "This is getting too hard."


What the heck kind of right does an illegal immigrant have to "live with more freedom"?  What kind of whacky weed is that guy smoking? 

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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2010, 05:51:59 PM »
From the article:  "About 100,000 illegal immigrants left Arizona after the state passed a law in 2007 that enhanced penalties on businesses that hired them, according to the Department of Homeland Security. Some early signs suggest another exodus. "


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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2010, 07:30:37 PM »
From the article:  "About 100,000 illegal immigrants left Arizona after the state passed a law in 2007 that enhanced penalties on businesses that hired them, according to the Department of Homeland Security. Some early signs suggest another exodus. "


haha

And that's EXACTLY how you handle the illegal immigration problem Skip, by targetting those who employ them.

I just think it is wrong, shameful, and disgraceful that legal Americans feel the need to leave a state because of the inevitable persecution they will feel simply because of their ethnicity.  :'(
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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2010, 07:32:17 PM »
"If I were alone, I'd try to stay. But I have a family, and I have to find a place where we can live with more freedom," said Cruz, who hopes to move July 4 to blend in with holiday weekend traffic. "This is getting too hard."

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH AHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA H

WTF?  ;D
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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2010, 07:38:46 PM »
And that's EXACTLY how you handle the illegal immigration problem Skip, by targetting those who employ them.

I just think it is wrong, shameful, and disgraceful that legal Americans feel the need to leave a state because of the inevitable persecution they will feel simply because of their ethnicity.  :'(

Puhlese!

Let them all move to Canada and then smuggle relatives in.

Give it a few years and see how liberal you're feeling. :)

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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2010, 07:40:38 PM »
And that's EXACTLY how you handle the illegal immigration problem Skip, by targetting those who employ them.

I just think it is wrong, shameful, and disgraceful that legal Americans feel the need to leave a state because of the inevitable persecution they will feel simply because of their ethnicity.  :'(
LMAO again I can show you a number of problems that targeting employers wont get rid of...but of course you turn a blind eye to them.  ::)

explain how this targets hispanics please...
Still waiting jagson

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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2010, 08:04:30 PM »
I was thinking Mexico..... to balance out some of the illegals always sneaking in. :)

Even better. I was suggesting LA to spite all the assholes looking to boycott Arizona there.

Puhlese!

Let them all move to Canada and then smuggle relatives in.

Give it a few years and see how liberal you're feeling. :)

I already suggested that to Jag. She wanted nothing to do with housing illegals in her own home or town.  ;)

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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2010, 09:33:31 PM »
Even better. I was suggesting LA to spite all the assholes looking to boycott Arizona there.

I already suggested that to Jag. She wanted nothing to do with housing illegals in her own home or town.  ;)

Dude, I have a 6 bedroom home, not even including the basement with room for 3 apartments,
and I won't even house legal people in my own home. If I'm unwilling to rent these spaces out to legal residents for an extra $5K - $6K a month, why would I want to house illegals?
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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2010, 04:32:28 AM »
Dude, I have a 6 bedroom home, not even including the basement with room for 3 apartments,
and I won't even house legal people in my own home. If I'm unwilling to rent these spaces out to legal residents for an extra $5K - $6K a month, why would I want to house illegals?

Where are those spirits of diversity and compassion you're always accusing Americans of not having? :)

Of course millions of illegals are a great idea here they weaken the American economy and dollar. What a perfect way to create parity between the dollar/loony without having to significantly grow the Canadian economy.

Illegals suck and need to go before it's too late. I'd be fine with giving them free tickets to Canada and a stipend.

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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2010, 05:50:43 AM »
From the article:  "About 100,000 illegal immigrants left Arizona after the state passed a law in 2007 that enhanced penalties on businesses that hired them, according to the Department of Homeland Security. Some early signs suggest another exodus. "


haha

If that's true, then great!  But I wonder how they know this.  How do they come up with the number of illegals in the country, how many come in, how many leave?  I thought nobody knew who the illegals are for sure.

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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2010, 05:57:54 AM »
Where are those spirits of diversity and compassion you're always accusing Americans of not having? :)

NIMBY  :)   ...'besides, ...I like my privacy. It's the only reason I don't have a live-in maid.

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Of course millions of illegals are a great idea here they weaken the American economy and dollar. What a perfect way to create parity between the dollar/loony without having to significantly grow the Canadian economy.

Considering Canada's largest trading partner is in the grips of a severe de recession, growing the Canadian economy right now is a bit of a challenge. Dju suppose that's why they're allowing these things to happen?  ;)

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Illegals suck and need to go before it's too late. I'd be fine with giving them free tickets to Canada and a stipend.

As unpleasant as the prospect of illegals may seem, make no mistake, your economy NEEDS illegals.
If you had any idea how much your costs would soar without them, ...you wouldn't be so quick to disparage them.
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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2010, 06:10:55 AM »
I think if I ever relocate, it will be to Arizona... 

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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2010, 06:29:29 AM »
Jag is clearly getting owned in this thread by her sheer ignorance.  I'm enjoying watching you guys just rip her a new one with just some common sense!

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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2010, 06:33:22 AM »
Jag is clearly getting owned in this thread by her sheer ignorance.  I'm enjoying watching you guys just rip her a new one with just some common sense!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA ;D

I'm laughing at how she started out YELLING it was targeting hispanics, yet when someone quoted the article and it was clearly about illegals, rather than apologize she just shift gears into another argument......hahaha

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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2010, 06:35:35 AM »
I think if I ever relocate, it will be to Arizona... 

Why?

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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2010, 06:36:30 AM »
I would like to have 3 or 4 illegals living at my house. 

A couple of 22-year old russian brides/models would be cool

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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2010, 07:02:51 AM »
I would like to have 3 or 4 illegals living at my house. 

A couple of 22-year old russian brides/models would be cool

Is this the type of Russian model you were thinking? I think your wife might object.  :-X :-X
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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2010, 07:14:36 AM »
I'm laughing at how she started out YELLING it was targeting hispanics, yet when someone quoted the article and it was clearly about illegals, rather than apologize she just shift gears into another argument......hahaha

Did you actually READ the article Showstoppa? because I did.

Not only did Toxie change the title from "Hispanics flee...", but the article was about hispanics in general.
It did touch upon illegals briefly... having mentioned how effective laws targetting employers had been very effective in the past in tackling the issue of illegals, however, the thrust of the article was about 'hispanics leaving the state'



Arizona's tough new immigration enforcement law is fueling an exodus of Hispanics from the state seven weeks before it goes into effect, according to officials and residents in the state.

Though no one has precise figures, reports from school officials, businesses and individuals indicate worried Hispanics — both legal and illegal — are leaving the state in anticipation of the law, which will go into effect July 29.

Schools in Hispanic areas report unusual drops in enrollment. The Balsz Elementary School District is 75% Hispanic, and within a month of the law's passage, the parents of 70 students pulled them out of school, said District Superintendent Jeffrey Smith. The district lost seven students over the same one-month period last year, and parents tell Smith the Arizona law is the reason for leaving.

TRENDS: Ariz. Latinos register as Democrats
CENSUS: Ariz. immigration law makes count tougher
POLL: More Americans want tight immigration laws
IN CALIFORNIA: Boycotts over Ariz. immigration law

"They're leaving to another state where they feel more welcome," he said.

The measure, signed into law April 23 by Republican Gov. Jan Brewer, requires a police officer to determine a person's immigration status if they are stopped, detained or arrested and there is "reasonable suspicion" they are in the country illegally.

About 100,000 illegal immigrants left Arizona after the state passed a law in 2007 that enhanced penalties on businesses that hired them, according to the Department of Homeland Security. Some early signs suggest another exodus.




It would be nice if people actually read an article, and actually understand exactly what the article states, rather than what they want it to state. I won't fault you too harshly since afterall, ...I understand you are the product of a US education.  :)
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Re: Illegals flee AZ....guess they got it RIGHT!!!
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2010, 10:15:22 AM »
explain how this targets hispanics please...
STILL WAITING JAGSON!!!!!!!!!!!

HOW DOES THIS LAW TARGET HISPANICS?