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http://thehill.com/homenews/house/102677-panel-commissioned-by-barney-frank-recommends-nearly-1t-in-defense-cuts-to-close-deficit

A panel commissioned by Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) is recommending nearly $1 trillion in cuts to the Pentagon’s budget during the next 10 years.

The Sustainable Defense Task Force, a commission of scholars from a broad ideological spectrum appointed by Frank, the House Financial Services Committee chairman, laid out actions the government could take that could save as much as $960 billion between 2011 and 2020.

Measures presented by the task force include making significant reductions to the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program, which has strong support from Defense Secretary Robert Gates; delaying the procurement of a new midair refueling tanker the Air Force has identified as one of its top acquisition priorities; and reducing the Navy’s fleet to 230 ships instead of the 313 eyed by the service.

Shipbuilding has strong support in the congressional defense committees, which write the Pentagon bills. Efforts to reduce the number of ships would run into resistance from the Pentagon and the shipbuilding lobby.

Frank on Friday warned that if he can’t convince Congress to act in the “general direction” of the task force recommendation, “then every other issue will suffer.” Not cutting the Pentagon's budget could lead to higher taxes and spending cuts detrimental to the environment, housing and highway construction.

The acceptance of the recommendations would depend on a “philosophical change" and a “redefinition of the strategy,” Frank said at press conference on Capitol Hill.

He said the creation of the deficit reduction commission offers the best opportunity for the reduction recommendations. Frank wants to convince his colleagues to write to the deficit reduction commission and warn that they would not approve any of the plans suggested by the commission unless reduction of military spending is included.

The task force has looked at various options to trim the Pentagon’s budget in order to reduce the deficit. Those include a reduction in Army and Marine Corps end-strength by cutting back on personnel stationed in Europe and Asia; and rolling back Army and Marine Corps personnel as the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan end.

The panel also looked into reforming military compensation, which could save about $55 billion; saving $60 billion by reforming the military healthcare system; and reducing recruiting expenditures once the wars wind down to preserve about $5 billion.

All of these recommendations would be expected to engender congressional opposition.

The task force also suggested canceling the V-22 Osprey program and the Marine Corps’s troubled Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle.

The U.S. nuclear arsenal would also be on the chopping block, under the panel’s suggestions.

The task force recommends reducing the U.S. nuclear warhead total to 1,050.

Launchers would include 160 Minuteman missiles and seven Ohio-class submarines with 24 missiles (each with five warheads).

The panel also recommends retiring the Air Force bombers — “the bomber leg of the nuclear triad,” which includes land-based missiles and nuclear submarines — and ending work on the Trident II missile.

Frank acknowledged Friday that making cuts to the military’s healthcare system, known as Tricare, would be a “non-starter” with his congressional colleagues. But he said that suggestions on how to handle the nuclear arsenal and missile defense could get a “great deal” of support on the Hill.

Frank requested the creation of the task force in cooperation with Reps. Walter Jones (R-N.C.) and Ron Paul (R-Texas) and Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.).

The Project on Defense Alternatives coordinated the work of the task force, which included the following members: Carl Conetta, Project on Defense Alternatives; Benjamin Friedman, Cato Institute; William Hartung, New America Foundation; Christopher Hellman, National Priorities Project; Heather Hurlburt, National Security Network; Charles Knight, Project on Defense Alternatives; Lawrence J. Korb, Center for American Progress; Paul Kawika Martin, Peace Action; Laicie Olson, Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation; Miriam Pemberton, Institute for Policy Studies; Laura Peterson, Taxpayers for Common Sense; Prasannan Parthasarathi, Boston College; Christopher Preble, Cato Institute, and Winslow Wheeler, Center for Defense Information.

This story was posted at 10:24 a.m. and updated at 12:14 p.m.
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I see nothing wrong with trimming 1 trillion over 10 years.

You;ll always have the types that say "but but but we have to have the biggest and baddest military"

We still will.  Many times over.  But there comes a time when you're endangering the nation more by deflating its currency by printing $. 

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We spend 7 times more than China right now.

One trillion over ten years = 100 billion less per year.  We'll be fine lol...

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Barney Frank, yeah, he never screwed the pooch on anything in DC  ::)

Many of those cuts suggested are BEYOND critical areas needed by the Military. The USAF has requested a new tanker for years, the KC-135 is flying on band aids and the KC-10 is leased, and both are old and we don't have many of them. They fly a shit load of sorties, because all of our planes need fuel in the air.

The F-35 is a next generation fighter. You guys see these F-15's and 16's and don't realize this is 1960's and 70's technology. Those planes are owned by other militaries all over the planet. Its bad enough that we lost the F-22, but now to try and slash the F-35 is taking to to far.

And to retire our bombers, are you f-ing kidding me. Thats a wonderful idea, the one airplane, BUFF/B-52, that can strike fear into the heart of your enemy without dropping a single bomb, lets retire him. Because slashing the nukes isn't enough to show our enemies that we are willing to bend over and take it.

Now, past all that, the US is down right now. So, lets just send out a message to the world, that while we are down financially and with inner fighting at an all time high, lets chop our military while we are at it. Because I'm sure China, Russia, Iran and South Korea really just want to be our friends. You yes men and left wing nut bags don't understand anything until the bad guy comes and slaps the shit out of you, and then its too late.

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I guess I don't understand what number would keep people happy.  What level of spending is enough?  $1 trillion per year?  Can we stop there? 

This unquantifiable thing... nobody knows how much we should spend... but we know it's gotta bem ore than we're spending now!

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I dont think zero has plans on cutting the military like you think. 




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Barney Frank, yeah, he never screwed the pooch on anything in DC  ::)

Many of those cuts suggested are BEYOND critical areas needed by the Military. The USAF has requested a new tanker for years, the KC-135 is flying on band aids and the KC-10 is leased, and both are old and we don't have many of them. They fly a shit load of sorties, because all of our planes need fuel in the air.

The F-35 is a next generation fighter. You guys see these F-15's and 16's and don't realize this is 1960's and 70's technology. Those planes are owned by other militaries all over the planet. Its bad enough that we lost the F-22, but now to try and slash the F-35 is taking to to far.

And to retire our bombers, are you f-ing kidding me. Thats a wonderful idea, the one airplane, BUFF/B-52, that can strike fear into the heart of your enemy without dropping a single bomb, lets retire him. Because slashing the nukes isn't enough to show our enemies that we are willing to bend over and take it.

We didn't lose the F-22s.  The Air Force just doesn't need more of them right now...like you said, they are more worried about their tankers than more fighters.

The F-35 is a project being funded by DOZENS of countries(of course the U.S. is the major investor).  In other words...several countries will be procurring this next generation fighter.  I'll take the F-22 just because we are the only ones with that technology as far as avionics etc.

The rest of your post...spot on!

Now, past all that, the US is down right now. So, lets just send out a message to the world, that while we are down financially and with inner fighting at an all time high, lets chop our military while we are at it. Because I'm sure China, Russia, Iran and South Korea really just want to be our friends. You yes men and left wing nut bags don't understand anything until the bad guy comes and slaps the shit out of you, and then its too late.

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I guess I don't understand what number would keep people happy.  What level of spending is enough?  $1 trillion per year?  Can we stop there? 

This unquantifiable thing... nobody knows how much we should spend... but we know it's gotta bem ore than we're spending now!

If Obama,the jerk off,wouldnt have completely wasted a trillion on his utterly failed stimulus bill that was little more then flushing it down a toilet,perhaps we wouldnt need such cuts to military.

How about getting rid of DEA,DEPT. OF EDUCATION,ATF,HUD,THE FED, etc. etc.