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By SCOTT GOTTLIEB

Posted: 1:16 AM, June 14, 2010


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Late last week saw the first leaks of the administration's draft regulations for imple menting the ObamaCare law -- and everything is playing out just as the critics warned.

The 3,000-odd pages of legislation left most of the really important (and controversial) policy decisions to the regulations that government agencies were told to issue once the bill passed. Now that those regs are starting to take shape, it's clear that the Obama team is using its new power to exert tight control over the payment and delivery of all formerly "private" health insurance.

The ObamaCare law references the Secretary of Health and Human Services almost 2,200 times and uses the phrase "the secretary shall" more than 725. Each reference requires HHS to set new rules on medical care, giving control to an existing federal office or one of 160 new agencies that the bill created.

HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius (who was once the Kansas state-insurance commissioner) has taken to these tasks with zeal. In some circles, she's now known as the nation's "insurance regulator in chief."

She's starting off by applying new regs to health plans offered by large employers -- even though these costly rules were supposedly only going to apply to plans sold in the state insurance "exchanges" that don't get created until 2014. This twist is spelled out in an 83-page draft of a new regulation that leaked late last week.

Bottom line: Sebelius means to dictate what your insurance plan must look like almost from day one, no matter how you get your coverage.

Indeed, the draft regs envision more than half of all policies having to change within three years -- an unmistakable break with President's Obama's oft-repeated promise, "If people like their insurance, they will be able to keep it."

Yet that may be the least of the broken promises.

Ultimately, these rules force consumers to buy one of just four health policies -- which vary mostly only by trading off higher co-payments for lower premiums, while offering essentially the same actual benefits. In arguing for passage of the law, ObamaCare's defenders claimed the rules were aimed at health plans sold in the "exchanges." Oops: Now Sebelius is applying them to employer plans. Eventually, this would force all but the very wealthiest Americans into a single government-designed insurance scheme.

This is far from the only area where Secretary Sebelius is exploiting the law's fuzzy language to tighten her control over the private insurance market. In recent weeks, she has said that the new law gives her authority to review and even set the rates on health policies sold in private markets, a role previously left to state insurance regulators.

The ObamaCare bills were written to paper over an intellectual divide between White House economists and HHS policy wonks. Some economists wanted genuine competition to take root in the new federally managed insurance "exchanges." The HHS crew favored a one-sized government plan with tight federal regulation over benefits.

The law itself didn't explicitly side with either school -- but it did leave the writing of the implementing regs to those same HHS wonks. Unfortunately, those more moderate White House economists are now leaving the administration, including the rumored departure of widely admired businessman and health-care expert Robert Kocher.

Washington insiders refer to this HHS team as "true believers" -- a group of earnest, left-leaning activists who've long favored a single nationalized health plan. They are massaging the law's vagueness to give themselves the tight federal control over health care that will bring their vision into practice.

Critics warned that the Obama bill meant a federal takeover of health care, with Washington bureaucrats making core decisions about medical care. With ObamaCare taking shape, that's exactly what consumers are getting. Saying "we told you so" is no consolation to those who took the president at his word.

Scott Gottlieb, a physician and American Enterprise Institute fellow, was a senior official at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. He is partner in a firm that invests in health-care companies.

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So lets see, those of us who attacked this admn have been proven correct on another issue. 

Stim Bill = failure just likew e said it would.

ObamaCare equals govt takeover of health care just like we said it would.   

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My insurance just went up about 20% for my company. 

I thought Obama said these types of raises were unsustainable and the reason we had to pass ObamaCare? 

More lies, trash, filth, manipulation, and schemes from this pofs admn.   

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Administration: 51% Of Companies’ Health Plans Won’t Pass Muster 
By Sean Higgins and David Hogberg     
Fri., June 11, 2010 5:05 PM ET 

www.ibdeditorials.com

Internal White House documents reveal that 51% of employers may have to relinquish their current health care coverage by 2013 due to ObamaCare. That numbers soars to 66% for small-business employers.

The documents — product of a joint project of the Labor Department, the Health and Human Services Department and the IRS — examine the effects new regulations would have on existing, or “grandfathered,” employer-based health care plans.

Draft copies of the documents were reportedly leaked to House Republicans earlier in the week. Rep. Bill Posey, R-Fla., posted them on his Web site Friday afternoon.  (View the full report here.)

Under interim regulations, current employer-based coverage would not be grandfathered and hence subject to the health care laws’ consumer provisions if:

* The plan eliminates benefits related to diagnosis or treatment of a particular condition.

* The plan increases the percentage of a cost-sharing requirement (such as co-insurance) above the level at which it was on March 23, 2010.

* The plan increases the fixed amount of cost sharing such as deductibles or out-of-pocket limits by a total percentage measured from March 23, 2010, that is more than the sum of medical inflation plus 15 percentage points.

* The plan increases co-payments as a total percentage measured from March 23, 2010, that is more than the sum of medical inflation plus 15 percentage points or medical inflation plus $5.

* The employer’s share of the premium decreases more than 5 percentage points below what the share was on March 23, 2010.

According to the report, by 2013 51% of all employers — 66% of small employers (3-99 employees) and 45% of large employers — would have to relinquish current coverage. In a worst-case scenario, 69% of firms would lose their grandfathered status.

This could pose a serious threat to President Obama’s claim that if you like your coverage, you’d get to keep it.

Check out IBD's full story at investors.com and in Monday’s print edition.

Welcome Real Clear Politics and Instapundit readers.

 
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Hey 333...my best friend is a pharmaceutical rep.  He just had a conference to let him know that not only will he be taxed at 39% of his income...but he will have to pay taxes on ALL of his benefits.  He just got a raise a few months ago but will actually lose roughly 200$ a month because of this.  How fucked up is that?

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thats the hope and change all the welfare  freeloading people in this country voted for
down with hussein

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Hey 333...my best friend is a pharmaceutical rep.  He just had a conference to let him know that not only will he be taxed at 39% of his income...but he will have to pay taxes on ALL of his benefits.  He just got a raise a few months ago but will actually lose roughly 200$ a month because of this.  How fucked up is that?

We warned everyone many times. 

We really need to have a KTFO an Obama supporter day about once a month until they wake the hell up. 

People like Straw, Blacken, Mons, Danny, Benny, are so friggin blind and deluded its sad.  however, their delusions are one thing, but they embolden these pieces of human filth like obama to do what he is doing.     

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This is only the beginning, it will get worse.

This Bill is a POS

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Glen Beck blasting this story on the radio. 

You left wing communist pofs should all croak and die first.

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We warned everyone many times. 

We really need to have a KTFO an Obama supporter day about once a month until they wake the hell up. 

People like Straw, Blacken, Mons, Danny, Benny, are so friggin blind and deluded its sad.  however, their delusions are one thing, but they embolden these pieces of human filth like obama to do what he is doing.     

Let me quote him..."I didn't put myself in debt to get an education to give this shitty government a handout; the government is a fucking freeloader and I'm sick of it."


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Seniors and military are already feeling the pain, with this crap.

It seems the ObamaCare supports forget that, just because you have health insurance, doesn't mean that a private entity has to ACCEPT it.

Case in point, the Walgreens pharmacies in Washington state that no longer accept Medicare. Not to mention certain places don't accept Tricare insurance, which affects active duty and retired military and their families.

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Re: ObamaCare playing out exactly as the critics said it would. (SUCKERS)
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2010, 06:54:46 AM »
Seniors and military are already feeling the pain, with this crap.

It seems the ObamaCare supports forget that, just because you have health insurance, doesn't mean that a private entity has to ACCEPT it.

Case in point, the Walgreens pharmacies in Washington state that no longer accept Medicare. Not to mention certain places don't accept Tricare insurance, which affects active duty and retired military and their families.

I just want to know when and if 240, Benny, Straw, Blacken, Mons, Danny, KC and others will admit the folly of their support for this admn. 

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Re: ObamaCare playing out exactly as the critics said it would. (SUCKERS)
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2010, 07:06:11 AM »
I just want to know when and if 240, Benny, Straw, Blacken, Mons, Danny, KC and others will admit the folly of their support for this admn. 

I know firsthand, what it's like to have health insurance for yourself and your family, but NOT BE ABLE TO USE IT, except at some practice/facility that's out in the boonies, beyond where you live. It happens to families of active duty/retired armed forces members quite a bit in towns that ain't so military-friendly.


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Re: ObamaCare playing out exactly as the critics said it would. (SUCKERS)
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2010, 07:35:18 AM »
I know firsthand, what it's like to have health insurance for yourself and your family, but NOT BE ABLE TO USE IT, except at some practice/facility that's out in the boonies, beyond where you live. It happens to families of active duty/retired armed forces members quite a bit in towns that ain't so military-friendly.



I know what's it like to have insurance, and have your insurance not cover a dime in the time of Injury.  I got injured.
However, the alleged injury was a result of direct trauma to the area. It wasn't a pre-existing condition. I had to pay $9K out of my pocket, while paying insurance the whole time. At least the company was kind enough to cover about $90 worth of medicine.

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Re: ObamaCare playing out exactly as the critics said it would. (SUCKERS)
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2010, 07:43:49 AM »
I know what's it like to have insurance, and have your insurance not cover a dime in the time of Injury.  I got injured.
However, the alleged injury was a result of direct trauma to the area. It wasn't a pre-existing condition. I had to pay $9K out of my pocket, while paying insurance the whole time. At least the company was kind enough to cover about $90 worth of medicine.


As I told a certain buffoonery-laden poster, who supports ObamaCare, several months back: If you think Shameka from the ghetto, or Becky from the trailer park, will get the same quality healthcare that Nancy Pelosi gets, you are smoking crack.

That's what, as 333386 calls them, Obama "kneepadders" believe will be the case.

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Re: ObamaCare playing out exactly as the critics said it would. (SUCKERS)
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2010, 07:50:46 AM »

As I told a certain buffoonery-laden poster, who supports ObamaCare, several months back: If you think Shameka from the ghetto, or Becky from the trailer park, will get the same quality healthcare that Nancy Pelosi gets, you are smoking crack.

That's what, as 333386 calls them, Obama "kneepadders" believe will be the case.

ha-ha, funny shit. ;D

Imagine if shameka, and becky did get the same insurance that Obama has. They would be going to the doctor for for cuts they received with Plastic forks and knives. That promise about the Public options was utter non-sense by Obama. How could anyone believe what he says?


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Re: ObamaCare playing out exactly as the critics said it would. (SUCKERS)
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2010, 08:00:17 AM »
ha-ha, funny shit. ;D

Imagine if shameka, and becky did get the same insurance that Obama has. They would be going to the doctor for for cuts they received with Plastic forks and knives. That promise about the Public options was utter non-sense by Obama. How could anyone believe what he says?



Because he tells them what they want to hear just like this guy and they eat it up.