Layne Norton 16 weeks out

[WillGrant]

He claims natural because he does not have the extra gifts needed to make it in pro BB , he is still on a fuk load of gear and other drugs but realises he does not have what it takes so has found a niche in this whole "natural" bullshit.

You guys are so naive its laughable.

[njflex]

gh15 has elaborated on the point that most users achieve a 3d thickness to there muscle from all angles,its gives that pop look with tighter thin skin and hardened look with extreme vascularity in a bulk mode and extreme as one diets down to contest form .is layne achieving this look now?

[gh15]

fellas,, i have trained them all and seen them all,, it now is not a matter of looks its matter of muscle mesurements,,ofcourse he has the look of hormonized lifter,,but the mesurments are in the top of the top of hormonized bodybuilding,,his problem is that he has VERY VERY AVERAGE GENERIC RESPOND TO HORMONES WITH GOOD DEDICATION ,,and this is what you get when your genetic respond is average yet youre very dedicated,,,

the best of the best top amatuers npc are walkin around with 28 inch quads at 6 feet,,the best of the best hormonized bodybuilderd step on stage with 18 inch arms and not even quarter inch over,,the best of the best of hormonizec npc lifters lift the weights he lift and are on a lot of drugs they buy on a regular monthly basis,,

the problem this kid has is that he suck as a bodybuilder,,so he decided to do a natural spin on things and concentrate on the healthy aspect of fitness selling it to the masses of goolible kids that wanna start supplemtns etc,,

it doesnt matter what anyone says on this thread only thing you need to read is this post im writing here,,im NEVER wrong ,,i know exactly the products he uses and the exact sources he get it from ,, the guy is not playing with igf balonie,,he is playing with real deal anabolic steroids and not only when he feels like but for a long consistant time,,

]he is smart in the way he uses them because liek skip he try to make a buck out of bodybuilding,,kalev did it ,,skip did it and norton does it ,,many more do it they lie their way around but be assured that he like anyother lifter sit and beg for products on a monthly basis

gh15 approved

[Natural Man]

exactly, he s the poster boy for all the young naive idiots over there at bbing.com who believe buying all these useless powders will make em look like him...

[Krankenstein]

He claims natural because he does not have the extra gifts needed to make it in pro BB , he is still on a fuk load of gear and other drugs but realises he does not have what it takes so has found a niche in this whole "natural" bullshit.

You guys are so naive its laughable.

Ok Billy   Layne owns your mind without even trying...HA HA

BTW...GH1538763276237864 2  I am never wrong either.....you are still a douche behind a screen.  What ever happened to your "In January 2010 I will reveal myself".  HA HA HA 

This is all getting so funny....

[WillGrant]

Ok Billy   Layne owns your mind without even trying...HA HA

BTW...GH1538763276237864 2  I am never wrong either.....you are still a douche behind a screen.  What ever happened to your "In January 2010 I will reveal myself".  HA HA HA 

This is all getting so funny....

Does he? I could care less about some lying guy who sells supplements and bullshit to kids.

I think he looks great but is not drug free end of story.

[dj181]

I'm curious, when someone gives a quad measurement, when do they take this measurement? Is it at the thickest part, upper thigh, or is it a few inches above the kneecap, at the bottom of the thigh sweep?

[Krankenstein]

Does he? I could care less about some lying guy who sells supplements and bullshit to kids.

I think he looks great but is not drug free end of story.

Absolutely, 100% end of story.  Prove he isn't.  Or does it just come down to a simple fact of "Because I couldnt do it...no way Layne could either".

BTW..its "I couldn't care less"....hope this helps Billy

[Ursus]

Out of curiosity what do the people who dispute his natural status look like?

I really don't know if he is natural or not. I would say only he does.

He look good either way.

[kevinf]

this could be true, Will.   BUT, on the other hand, its very possible for a natural to be bigger and stronger than layne norton without drugs. 

prove it

[dj181]

I think the key question is... Is it possible to be big and very lean (sub 7%) at the same time, without the sause.

[TRIX]

the fuk you wiggers on about? he is in no way big




no thickness whatsoever. GH15 is smoking crack because he is ALL DRUGS

TRIX approved

[Moen]

Those last 2 pics do not resemble the first series at all. Here he looks clean idd. Redness is gone as well

[saucetradomous]

the fuk you wiggers on about? he is in no way big



no thickness whatsoever. GH15 is smoking crack because he is ALL DRUGS

TRIX approved

Hahaha 235lbs ripped to shreds, what are they thinking?

[Devon97]

the fuk you wiggers on about? he is in no way big




no thickness whatsoever. GH15 is smoking crack because he is ALL DRUGS

TRIX approved

EXACTLY!

He is a smart and hard worker who is hella strong and when he gets ripped he is much smaller.

Makes you wonder the kinda twinks on this board would consider him to be juiced!

[Krankenstein]

GH15 is smoking crack because he is ALL DRUGS

TRIX approved

QF-MF-T

ANYONE who thinks thats someone who is on "low doses"....HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

[gh15]

friends,,you know who you remind me? you remind me those fatzos sitting somewhere when a bodybuilder show up and tell him hey youre damn big i woudnt wanna mess up with you ,,how much you bench 250? lol thats the type of people you remind me,,wake up fellas you are bodybuilders not some kids who just started lifting,,this is not mayehm or bb.com or md,,here you suppose to know whats up,,

for the last time i will try to explain ,,the use of hormones has nothing to do with weight it has a lot more to do with size and development,,the weight is only for bodybuilders who are more gifted as in respond well to the hormones and need the extra weight so they can compete in npc higher levels,,

this is a guy that build himself on lies of being natural,,he is juiced to the max ofcourse with short esters and tablets INCLUDING GH,,but! and this is a big but ,,he dont and cant maintain his quality and condition whiel getting heavier while lookin natural ,,even if he wanted to be npc hormonized competitor he woudnt be able to since his genetic respond and frame is just not up to par,,he is more of a strength lifter that com0pete bodybuilding and try to pass it as natural,,


you put here pics of the fella with yellow tank top so i will elaborate on those pics,,his physiqe is nothing to write home about because he is very average true but hsi physiqe is build more for strength and pwoer lifting,,he just wanna do bodybuildign due to narcsism that is the main reason we all in this cult to begin with ,, the problem is he lie and how do you knwo it by picture?


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[TacoBell]

This is always a funny discussion.  Layme uses pre contest, just as Many natural bbers.  Pics in yellow are off season when he's off, first pics he is on.  Yes cycles do give you a certain look and yes he has that look.  Layme looks like utter shit when off.  Nothing impressive whatsoever about the physique in the yellow tank.  In fact, he should be rather embarrassed that for all the time and effort put into bodybuilding in his life, that phyisque in yellow is what he has to show for it.  If that was just your average guy who works out, its a decent physique, but for someone who eats and sleeps bbing, it's just sad.
 

[gh15]

take a look at his traps,, delts,,the traps are swole yet not thick why? because there are no long esters in his blood,,its swole due to suspension who give yo uthe swole look yet smoothen your delts and make them less round due to not enough time to do its magic,,only enough time to help you maintain size of muscle while increasing strength tremendesly,,

take a good look at his face this is face of a guy with very hgih blood pressure due to use of short ester ,,reason he dont look too red is because when you use halotestin it will balance the suspension aqnd work with it well to give you an insane strength yet more of a natural flatter look that naturals need inorder to pass as naturals ,,they got to some how not look round enough and the magic is suspension and halotestin in combo with the option of little estrogen blocker,,

he uses the right doses for his body ,,enough to keep muscle big enough to look   good for natural but not enough to make the dumb guy in the street think he is on hormones,,he is the type of guy that will hear a lot the sentence i mentioned t9 obegin with ,,oh you look big how much you bench 250? ewhy? because to the average person this is what hard dedication create ,,but to yo uthe bodybuilder i expect more than you ,,i expect you to unerstand how this    cult work and learn it ,,especially when i been among you fso many years


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[gh15]

This is always a funny discussion.  Layme uses pre contest, just as Many natural bbers.  Pics in yellow are off season when he's off, first pics he is on.  Yes cycles do give you a certain look and yes he has that look.  Layme looks like utter shit when off.  Nothing impressive whatsoever about the physique in the yellow tank.  In fact, he should be rather embarrassed that for all the time and effort put into bodybuilding in his life, that phyisque in yellow is what he has to show for it.  If that was just your average guy who works out, its a decent physique, but for someone who eats and sleeps bbing, it's just sad.
 

he is not off! he wont hve testosterone in his balls if he is off this fella is on for life

gh15 approved

[saucetradomous]

he is not off! he wont hve testosterone in his balls if he is off this fella is on for life

gh15 approved

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha haha, what is the most you've achieved naturally? weight and height wise?  If you think Layne at 235lbs at 18-20% bf shows a perfect example of someone who is on I just gotta know where you once stood?

[TacoBell]

he is not off! he wont hve testosterone in his balls if he is off this fella is on for life

gh15 approved

See I don't know that I agree with that, I'd imagine he'd run clomid/nova/hcg... Or even if he bridged between cycles with 250mg of test each week, that really just replacement dosages.  He has for years presented 2 different physiques throughout the year, one that is clearly on and one that appears to be off.  Besides he takes the drugs that can be used and pass a test, could u imagine sticking yourself with suspension everyday forever?  
Besides that body in the yellow tank, if he's really on there, wow that's sad.

[gh15]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, what is the most you've achieved naturally? weight and height wise?  If you think Layne at 235lbs at 18-20% bf shows a perfect example of someone who is on I just gotta know where you once stood?

before turned to hormones after 4 years of lifting naturallyt with out any supplemtns i was 185lb at high singles8-9%,, cant say height because then it says who i ajm but im not a 5'3 lee priest and i got one of the best genetic respond youd come across,,

norton isnot 18 percent there he is closer to 9-10 percent probably 10% true body fat hard to tell to the t bu id go with 9-10 percent and hold water from the you got that right suspension:)

gh15 approved

[saucetradomous]

See I don't know that I agree with that, I'd imagine he'd run clomid/nova/hcg... Or even if he bridged between cycles with 250mg of test each week, that really just replacement dosages.  He has for years presented 2 different physiques throughout the year, one that is clearly on and one that appears to be off.  Besides he takes the drugs that can be used and pass a test, could u imagine sticking yourself with suspension everyday forever?  
Besides that body in the yellow tank, if he's really on there, wow that's sad.

your comparing the two physiques, the powerlifting/offseason look and the contest ready look?  just because he drops 40lbs and gets lean does not necessarily mean he's on as I'm sure you're already aware.  Please post two comparison photos of these looks if you could.

[saucetradomous]

before turned to hormones after 4 years of lifting naturallyt with out any supplemtns i was 185lb at high singles8-9%,, cant say height because then it says who i ajm but im not a 5'3 lee priest and i got one of the best genetic respond youd come across,,

norton isnot 18 percent there he is closer to 9-10 percent probably 10% true body fat hard to tell to the t bu id go with 9-10 percent and hold water from the you got that right suspension:)

gh15 approved

I doubt 9-10 but I will say I was probably a little high.  Do you think you went as far as you could naturally? cause you'd be 165lbs possibly for contest shape. at somewhere I'm guessing 5'7-5'8, going by your stats.