Both guys look good, the problem I have with this thread is that Bobs seems to be impressed with himself for getting lean. Getting lean is not hard, getting big is hard. Getting lean does require hard work but honestly is not that complicated, anyone can do it, whereas many people try their hardest to attain a physique like groink and fail miserably. He'll this board is called get big for a reason, unless we'd like to change it to getmediumbutleanbutrealy itsadimeadozenphysique.