Invitation to all PermaBulkers

[Palpatine Q]

its exactly the opposite.

getting lean is hard.

getting FAT not "big" is a "piece of cake", literally.

Really?

 and who's talking about getting fat??

I'm not fat in that pic...18% to be exact at 264 lbs.....I'm sure everyone here just could eat some pizza and achieve that  

For a comparison, lets take my "nemesis" Bobs....

He bulked for years by his own admission.... and was on a gram of test a week along with anadrol, and guess how big he got ?

A sloppy 225.

Everyone can't be a huge guy, you have to have the genetics.

ANYONE can diet and get lean....anyone.  it just a matter of eating correctly.  if you do it right you WILL lose bodyfat, no matter who you are. Throw anabolics in the mix and it's child's play

[Palpatine Q]

The fact of the matter is that bobs usually starts this type of attention whoring threads every few months hoping that people will believe he's natural. He conveniently sidesteps any direct response when challenged he'll meltdown badly and  call in all his faggy friends (note the rage displayed by the sharma/big al gimmick  )to try to provide cover for him while he slinks out the back door.

A few months from now he'll have experimented with another nasser induced cycle and will try the same stunt again. Once again he'll be challenged...rinse, repeat.

Groink seems to be a bit of a thorn in team nassers side hence all the personal attacks they launch at him from time to time.
 In getbig speak he must own a lot of real estate in the collective minds of"team" nasser. 

i think Bobs and Shereef should be thanking me....they probably have pictures of me hanging in their gym and it gives them fuel to train harder....or in Bobs case buy more steroids 

[Tyr]

i think Bobs and Shereef should be thanking me....they probably have pictures of me hanging in their MIND and it gives them fuel to vent harder....or in Bobs case buy more steroids  

Corrected for accuracy.

[Meso_z]

Really?

 and who's talking about getting fat??

I'm not fat in that pic...18% to be exact at 264 lbs.....I'm sure everyone here just could eat some pizza and achieve that  

For a comparison, lets take my "nemesis" Bobs....

He bulked for years by his own admission.... and was on a gram of test a week along with anadrol, and guess how big he got ?

A sloppy 225.

Everyone can't be a huge guy, you have to have the genetics.

ANYONE can diet and get lean....anyone.  it just a matter of eating correctly.  if you do it right you WILL lose bodyfat, no matter who you are. Throw anabolics in the mix and it's child's play

Calm down bitch, i wasnt talking about you.

jeeez christ...

[Palpatine Q]

Calm down bitch, i wasnt talking about you.

jeeez christ...

my apologies....In my defense everyone seems to be talking about either me or bobs here, my bad.

Point still stands though 

[Sherief Shalaby]

i think Bobs and Shereef should be thanking me....they probably have pictures of me hanging in their gym and it gives them fuel to train harder....or in Bobs case buy more steroids 

yes sure i have one of you on the left side of the wall of my gym and one of bobs on the right side.. under yours there is a note says (if you want to look like this dont come here again and go and eat pasta all the time) and under bobs pic. the note says (but if you want to be an alpha male and look like this make this place your 2nd house)!!..  

[kevcat]

Alpha male lol stop ass kissing

[Sherief Shalaby]

Alpha male lol stop ass kissing

why man it's all for fun and i like gronk and i am sure bobs too has no bad feelings towards him.. we just like to put him in his right place whenever he compares himself to his betters

[Meso_z]

my apologies....In my defense everyone seems to be talking about either me or bobs here, my bad.

Point still stands though 

[Palpatine Q]

Actually Shareef, under mine it would say "if you want to look like this....get re-born with better genetics and bust your ass for 30 years in the gym"

Under Bobs it should say "if you want to look like this, sell the squat rack and buy some winstrol"

[Sherief Shalaby]

Actually Shareef, under mine it would say "if you want to look like this....get re-born with better genetics and bust your ass for 30 years in the gym"

Under Bobs it should say "if you want to look like this, sell the squat rack and buy some winstrol"

do you mean that you look now at 45 after 30 years of training better than let's say 15 years ago??.. i dont think this is logical because as a natural at 30 (after 15 years of training) you must have looked better than now unless you were training like a pussy in your youth!!..

[Palpatine Q]

I was a bit leaner in my youth, as you get older its harder to stay lean....you are finding this out yourself now.

I've put on size slowly over the years, no drastic changes in my physique... thats kinda how it works when you train naturally.

you don't look bloated and fat one month and lean the next, then back to bloated and fat, and then back to lean again...you know, like someone else around here

[CalvinH]

Both look good.

I couldn't get to Groinks size without steroids and looking bloated.
bobs looks great and lean as hell but If he's really 180lb he's to thin to win,to light to fight {I'm sure it doesn't matter to him cuz his wife is hot as hell }


...I'm happy with my size which is in between them.

[Man of Steel]

I was a bit leaner in my youth, as you get older its harder to stay lean....you are finding this out yourself now.

I've put on size slowly over the years, no drastic changes in my physique... thats kinda how it works when you train naturally.

you don't look bloated and fat one month and lean the next, then back to bloated and fat, and then back to lean again...you know, like someone else around here

This is very true....I'm in my mid 30s and for many folks the body and its abilities do slow down.  Joints wear down, muscle ache more, etc.....kids, careers, mortgages, etc.....it plays into it.  12-14 years ago I was an absolute gym beast.  Today I can still move the weight and have the big cannons....even moreso in some cases than my "20s prime".  As someone who lived and breathed bb, the gym and training for many, many years I can completely speak to the drug-free body at 25 versus the drug-free body at 35....it's a different animal for many folks.  It's not impossible to be in good shape in your mid 30s, 40s, 50s and beyond; still, the effort required is much different than in your 20s.  The funny thing is that every 20-something on Getbig will say one of two things in response:

1) "Man I don't want to get old."
2) "B.S., you're just lazy."

[ag2]

Absolutely but gaining muscle naturally to be considered big (by getbig standards  )is much tougher than cutting fat + cutting fat on anabolics is much easier than doing it naturally. 
Bobs is "using" to achieve his results. He himself admitted in the past that he's not natural. Its common knowledge that nasser is advising him on his cycles hence all the rampant nasser nuthuggery.
Juicing is not such a big deal unless you try to pass off your results as natural gains/loss.
He could be honest about it but chooses to be obscure instead.

Three things; 1) Wow you actually typed up a well thought out response I never knew you had it in you 2) your avatar gives me a headache 3) still waiting for you to post a pic stud 

[Palpatine Q]

This is very true....I'm in my mid 30s and for many folks the body and its abilities do slow down.  Joints wear down, muscle ache more, etc.....kids, careers, mortgages, etc.....it plays into it.  12-14 years ago I was an absolute gym beast.  Today I can still move the weight and have the big cannons....even moreso in some cases than my "20s prime".  As someone who lived and breathed bb, the gym and training for many, many years I can completely speak to the drug-free body at 25 versus the drug-free body at 35....it's a different animal for many folks.  It's not impossible to be in good shape in your mid 30s, 40s, 50s and beyond; still, the effort required is much different than in your 20s.  The funny thing is that every 20-something on Getbig will say one of two things in response:

1) "Man I don't want to get old."
2) "B.S., you're just lazy."

So true MOS.....it gets a lot harder to stay big and muscular.

I never use my age as a crutch around here or fish for compliments....but at 45, the fact that I'm even in the conversation as one of the "dudes" around here is pretty freakin good IMO.

I'd love to see what a lot of guys that talk shit about me would look like when they are my age

[NaturalWonder83]

Three things; 1) Wow you actually typed up a well thought out response I never knew you had it in you 2) your avatar gives me a headache 3) still waiting for you to post a pic stud 

his other avatar pix are in his tinypic account-the ones u used for his dreadlord nizar and barracuda account-i would post the link for u to see but when i did the other day he quickly made sure no one could access the links

[TacoBell]

Everyone can't be a huge guy, you have to have the genetics.

ANYONE can diet and get lean....anyone.  it just a matter of eating correctly.  if you do it right you WILL lose bodyfat, no matter who you are. Throw anabolics in the mix and it's child's play

This.  And again I think bobs looks very good.  But there is nothing difficult to achieve about his physique, which isn't to say it doesn't require a great deal of commitment and hard work, but bobs looks like what many should.  The same many cannot achieve groinks size, they just don't have it in the genetically.  And I guarantee if groink wanted to get absolutely shredded he would still hold more muscle.

[Jaime]

This.  And again I think bobs looks very good.  But there is nothing difficult to achieve about his physique, which isn't to say it doesn't require a great deal of commitment and hard work, but bobs looks like what many should.  The same many cannot achieve groinks size, they just don't have it in the genetically.  And I guarantee if groink wanted to get absolutely shredded he would still hold more muscle.

Not entirely correct. Bob's has a pretty good structure, reasonably small waist, decent lines and taper. While you are correct in saying that Groink has more potential for size, i think Bob's has a structure more conducive to the lower bodyweight.

Most of the permabulkers on this site are natural meso's, don't kid yourself, they would have to kill themselves to walk around lean and even then their structure wouldn't suit the look.


Different looks. Bob's looks better in my opinion.

[TacoBell]

Not entirely correct. Bob's has a pretty good structure, reasonably small waist, decent lines and taper. While you are correct in saying that Groink has more potential for size, i think Bob's has a structure more conducive to the lower bodyweight.

Most of the permabulkers on this site are natural meso's, don't kid yourself, they would have to kill themselves to walk around lean and even then their structure wouldn't suit the look.


Different looks. Bob's looks better in my opinion.

Gotta love when the guy who's bend  here 3 mos and has 60posts takes sides in an argument.  Anyway 'jaime', you are wrong, bodybuilding is about illusion, both men have good shoulder to waist ratios and groink is able to fill the space in between with considerably more muscle.  And no, what bobs is displaying is a look that most can achieve, 30lbs of muscle on a lean frame, while from the looks of it groink could hold 60lbs at the same bf, which make no mistake groink could achieve if he wanted to put the effort in. 
And lastly, no 'permabulkers' would not kill themselves to look like that, cause that's all being lean takes, killing yourself on the treadmill and depriving yourself in the kitchen.   

[Palpatine Q]

Gotta love when the guy who's bend  here 3 mos and has 60posts takes sides in an argument.  Anyway 'jaime', you are wrong, bodybuilding is about illusion, both men have good shoulder to waist ratios and groink is able to fill the space in between with considerably more muscle.  And no, what bobs is displaying is a look that most can achieve, 30lbs of muscle on a lean frame, while from the looks of it groink could hold 60lbs at the same bf, which make no mistake groink could achieve if he wanted to put the effort in. 
And lastly, no 'permabulkers' would not kill themselves to look like that, cause that's all being lean takes, killing yourself on the treadmill and depriving yourself in the kitchen.   

Thanks for the kind words TB....It's good to read someone's opinion (be it good or bad) that talks logically and actually factors everything in.


I think Bobs looks good too, and you can't take away that he actually did it, anabolics or not. but listening to these fucking idiots carry on about him like he's Flex Wheeler and I'm a fatass is just ridiculous.

I like the fact that the grownups here that look at things objectively and make intelligent posts give me credit, while the fucking gimmicks, morons and cheerleaders are the ones who talk up bobs

[El Diablo Blanco]

Brutal old man syndrome over the last couple of pages.

[Jaime]

Gotta love when the guy who's bend  here 3 mos and has 60posts takes sides in an argument.  Anyway 'jaime', you are wrong, bodybuilding is about illusion, both men have good shoulder to waist ratios and groink is able to fill the space in between with considerably more muscle.  And no, what bobs is displaying is a look that most can achieve, 30lbs of muscle on a lean frame, while from the looks of it groink could hold 60lbs at the same bf, which make no mistake groink could achieve if he wanted to put the effort in. 
And lastly, no 'permabulkers' would not kill themselves to look like that, cause that's all being lean takes, killing yourself on the treadmill and depriving yourself in the kitchen.   

It's a forum, my opinion is just one among many. You missed the point in any event. It looks like Groink has more potential for mass, but you also need a certain type of structure to pull off lower bodyweights well and in my opinion Bob's structure fits in to that better. Groink looks like a natural endo, his current physique seems to suit his frame. Point being that if someone has to stick to a certain regime to get lean, then that is not their natural bodytype. Just as a guy that has to eat constantly to maintain weight is fighting against their genetics.

[TacoBell]

It's a forum, my opinion is just one among many. You missed the point in any event. It looks like Groink has more potential for mass, but you also need a certain type of structure to pull off lower bodyweights well and in my opinion Bob's structure fits in to that better. Groink looks like a natural endo, his current physique seems to suit his frame. Point being that if someone has to stick to a certain regime to get lean, then that is not their natural bodytype. Just as a guy that has to eat constantly to maintain weight is fighting against their genetics.

But bobs doesn't fit that profile.  He's been busting his ass to get that lean.   

[Palpatine Q]

It's a forum, my opinion is just one among many. You missed the point in any event. It looks like Groink has more potential for mass, but you also need a certain type of structure to pull off lower bodyweights well and in my opinion Bob's structure fits in to that better. Groink looks like a natural endo, his current physique seems to suit his frame. Point being that if someone has to stick to a certain regime to get lean, then that is not their natural bodytype. Just as a guy that has to eat constantly to maintain weight is fighting against their genetics.

Makes no sense. bobs had to diet and take gear to get lean, that's not his "natural state" any more than it is mine.

There are pictures of him all over this site looking puffy with nine chins.

not the greatest pic of me but it shows I'm not some wide waisted roly poly with no shape, as you are implying.

I have a very good structure, i'm not some blocky fire hydrant