Invitation to all PermaBulkers

[Jaime]

But bobs doesn't fit that profile.  He's been busting his ass to get that lean.   

I think he looks good not great. I saw the before pic, so he obviously isn't naturally that lean. Groink looks like he has a good structure in the pic below, it's hard to tell with the vest on, but overall good structure from what i can see, looks leaner there than the other pics. Chest and waist are sort of the two most important muscles from the front, which is hard to classify there though.

Both look good, there is some epic insecurity in this thread.

[clued-up]

But there is nothing difficult to achieve about his physique

Cutting down on the double cheeseburgers can be difficult.. initially. Once you get used to eating properly though, its pretty easy to get in shape.

Looking good is another matter. Some guys will look like shit no matter what. Genetics are impossible to overcome.

[noc]

Groink real tight pants you have on there, is that so your glutes are shown in their truest light or do you have bargain bucket legs?

[Palpatine Q]

Groink real tight pants you have on there, is that so your glutes are shown in their truest light or do you have bargain bucket legs?

my legs are pretty good.

[WillGrant]

Really?

 and who's talking about getting fat??

I'm not fat in that pic...18% to be exact at 264 lbs.....I'm sure everyone here just could eat some pizza and achieve that  

For a comparison, lets take my "nemesis" Bobs....

He bulked for years by his own admission.... and was on a gram of test a week along with anadrol, and guess how big he got ?

A sloppy 225.

Everyone can't be a huge guy, you have to have the genetics.

ANYONE can diet and get lean....anyone.  it just a matter of eating correctly.  if you do it right you WILL lose bodyfat, no matter who you are. Throw anabolics in the mix and it's child's play

What pic are you 18% in ? The one BB was compairing himself to you with no way are you 18% mid 20s easy.

Not hating on you mate cos you a good guy but you have a good 40 pounds to loose maybe more in that pic bobs was comparing him with and thats on gear , you would look sliced at 220pds unless thats just a bad pic

[bigbobs]

Wow, we're up to 9 pages...guaranteed this thread would not have grown had I not made the Groink comparison on an earlier page 

Lots of replies since last time I posted, I did read through them all and will respond with some thoughts that came up when reading:

- someone said I was being "not positive" by making this thread since I addressed it to "permabulkers" and that I think getting lean is very difficult.  Far from the truth.  It was meant to be a positive thread, and the fact that I took shots at my old look should show that.  I also posted earlier that getting lean is not difficult and that's why I recommended that more people try it.

- Someone else suggested that i think my look is near-perfect or that i prefer it over "250 lbs lean" - not true either.  Obviously bigger and leaner is better, and that's probably everyone's goal (including mine), but realistically how many people are 250 and lean?  In everyone's pursuit of being big and lean why not try to keep the bodyfat lower than higher and enjoy those years of growth while still looking good as opposed to fat.  I'd still like to keep improving and don't think I'm some time of epitome lol.

- As usual, I post a few decent pictures and Groink starts post-stalking me and saying "steroids" in practically every post, then going on to say he knows what I'm taking "winstrol, anabolics, etc." that he knows my bodyweight constantly quoting "180 lbs" etc and in general making negative posts.  He obviously gets quite bothered by me in particular (not sure why), since he does not post-stalk with making steroid accusations against others who post decent physique photos. 

[Sherief Shalaby]

Wow, we're up to 9 pages...guaranteed this thread would not have grown had I not made the Groink comparison on an earlier page 

Lots of replies since last time I posted, I did read through them all and will respond with some thoughts that came up when reading:

- someone said I was being "not positive" by making this thread since I addressed it to "permabulkers" and that I think getting lean is very difficult.  Far from the truth.  It was meant to be a positive thread, and the fact that I took shots at my old look should show that.  I also posted earlier that getting lean is not difficult and that's why I recommended that more people try it.

- Someone else suggested that i think my look is near-perfect or that i prefer it over "250 lbs lean" - not true either.  Obviously bigger and leaner is better, and that's probably everyone's goal (including mine), but realistically how many people are 250 and lean?  In everyone's pursuit of being big and lean why not try to keep the bodyfat lower than higher and enjoy those years of growth while still looking good as opposed to fat.  I'd still like to keep improving and don't think I'm some time of epitome lol.

- As usual, I post a few decent pictures and Groink starts post-stalking me and saying "steroids" in practically every post, then going on to say he knows what I'm taking "winstrol, anabolics, etc." that he knows my bodyweight constantly quoting "180 lbs" etc and in general making negative posts.  He obviously gets quite bothered by me in particular (not sure why), since he does not post-stalk with making steroid accusations against others who post decent physique photos. 

not sure why!!.. being a close friend of nasser alone is enough to make him mad.. he did his best before to meet nasser as you know but for his bad luck the wizard refused..

[Palpatine Q]

Wow, we're up to 9 pages...guaranteed this thread would not have grown had I not made the Groink comparison on an earlier page 

Lots of replies since last time I posted, I did read through them all and will respond with some thoughts that came up when reading:

- someone said I was being "not positive" by making this thread since I addressed it to "permabulkers" and that I think getting lean is very difficult.  Far from the truth.  It was meant to be a positive thread, and the fact that I took shots at my old look should show that.  I also posted earlier that getting lean is not difficult and that's why I recommended that more people try it.

- Someone else suggested that i think my look is near-perfect or that i prefer it over "250 lbs lean" - not true either.  Obviously bigger and leaner is better, and that's probably everyone's goal (including mine), but realistically how many people are 250 and lean?  In everyone's pursuit of being big and lean why not try to keep the bodyfat lower than higher and enjoy those years of growth while still looking good as opposed to fat.  I'd still like to keep improving and don't think I'm some time of epitome lol.

- As usual, I post a few decent pictures and Groink starts post-stalking me and saying "steroids" in practically every post, then going on to say he knows what I'm taking "winstrol, anabolics, etc." that he knows my bodyweight constantly quoting "180 lbs" etc and in general making negative posts.  He obviously gets quite bothered by me in particular (not sure why), since he does not post-stalk with making steroid accusations against others who post decent physique photos. 

I might have cracked a couple of comments here and there but i also gave you credit and said you looked good numerous times throughout this thread.

as usual you were the one who turned it into bobs vs groink part VI  because you get pissed when i mention you use anabolics so you lash out at me. why don't you come clean already and be done with it??

as you can see by reading this thread everybody knows what you are doing anyway, wer'e not stupid dude

I probably wouldn't keep on someone else the way i do you if they lied about their use..but it's YOU bobs    the whole Groink vs team Nasser thing...it's a getbig staple at this point, i have a responsibility  

If the tables were turned...be honest....team Nasser would be having a field day

[TacoBell]

Wow, we're up to 9 pages...guaranteed this thread would not have grown had I not made the Groink comparison on an earlier page 

Lots of replies since last time I posted, I did read through them all and will respond with some thoughts that came up when reading:

- someone said I was being "not positive" by making this thread since I addressed it to "permabulkers" and that I think getting lean is very difficult.  Far from the truth.  It was meant to be a positive thread, and the fact that I took shots at my old look should show that.  I also posted earlier that getting lean is not difficult and that's why I recommended that more people try it.

- Someone else suggested that i think my look is near-perfect or that i prefer it over "250 lbs lean" - not true either.  Obviously bigger and leaner is better, and that's probably everyone's goal (including mine), but realistically how many people are 250 and lean?  In everyone's pursuit of being big and lean why not try to keep the bodyfat lower than higher and enjoy those years of growth while still looking good as opposed to fat.  I'd still like to keep improving and don't think I'm some time of epitome lol.

- As usual, I post a few decent pictures and Groink starts post-stalking me and saying "steroids" in practically every post, then going on to say he knows what I'm taking "winstrol, anabolics, etc." that he knows my bodyweight constantly quoting "180 lbs" etc and in general making negative posts.  He obviously gets quite
bothered by me in particular (not sure why), since he does not post-stalk with making steroid accusations against others who post decent physique photos. 

I think you look great bobs, you clearly have put the time in and are mentally disciplined enough to follow what I imagine is a pretty strict diet, so kudos.  The comments I've made are actually directed more towards the blind nutthuggers who choose sides based on anything other than the facts. Regardless, nice work.

[bigbobs]

I might have cracked a couple of comments here and there but i also gave you credit and said you looked good numerous times throughout this thread.

as usual you were the one who turned it into bobs vs groink part VI  because you get pissed when i mention you use anabolics so you lash out at me. why don't you come clean already and be done with it??

as you can see by reading this thread everybody knows what you are doing anyway, wer'e not stupid dude

I probably wouldn't keep on someone else the way i do you if they lied about their use..but it's YOU bobs    the whole Groink vs team Nasser thing...it's a getbig staple at this point, i have a responsibility  

If the tables were turned...be honest....team Nasser would be having a field day

I only turned it into Groink vs. Bobs after ignoring many of the cracks, I didn't get defensive or compare myself to any of the others who just made one or even two negative comments.  Someone PM'd me something to the effect of "doing worry about the shittalkers" and honestly I PM'D back that I expect some negative comments and would feel awkward if everyone was just praising me because I dont think my physique is that great that it deserves only praises with no negative comments.  

As for coming clean, I did mention before that this recent look is from doing cardio, not missing workouts like I used to, and eating much lower calories.  I'm not not starving but I used to over-eat and eat lots of fast food so it was easy for me to cut calories.  I posted a pic recently of 128 steaks I just bought and put in the deep freezer, that's an example.  

Everyone here also "knows what you're doing too" - ask how many people here believe that you are clean?  I think its suspect because you say you grew gradually over the years but pictures you've posted show you were slim and not muscular in your vacation pic with friends and one sitting on a couch with a ball-cap, and now obviously you've put on lots of impressive mass in all of your recent photos.  But that's my opinion and I won't post-stalk and repeat it everytime you post a picture

[Palpatine Q]

I only turned it into Groink vs. Bobs after ignoring many of the cracks, I didn't get defensive or compare myself to any of the others who just made one or even two negative comments.  Someone PM'd me something to the effect of "doing worry about the shittalkers" and honestly I PM'D back that I expect some negative comments and would feel awkward if everyone was just praising me because I dont think my physique is that great that it deserves only praises with no negative comments.  

As for coming clean, I did mention before that this recent look is from doing cardio, not missing workouts like I used to, and eating much lower calories.  I'm not not starving but I used to over-eat and eat lots of fast food so it was easy for me to cut calories.  I posted a pic recently of 128 steaks I just bought and put in the deep freezer, that's an example.  

Everyone here also "knows what you're doing too" - ask how many people here believe that you are clean?  I think its suspect because you say you grew gradually over the years but pictures you've posted show you were slim and not muscular in your vacation pic with friends and one sitting on a couch with a ball-cap, and now obviously you've put on lots of impressive mass in all of your recent photos.  But that's my opinion and I won't post-stalk and repeat it everytime you post a picture

I hear you bobs...And i'll give it a rest (for now ) .

You look good too, seriously..that's my official statement.

but I do have to say that I AM clean...those pics you are talking about are very old. the one with friends was 1996 and the ballcap was 2003 and i was over 215 in both of them.

I just kept putting on mass gradually, basically to see how big i could get. I've had many friends tell me over the years.."dude, you should just cut up a little, you would look insane,"...but i was on a mission.

Finally just this past march i got up to 267 lbs on the scale and probably had more in me, but i just couldn't take it any more...it sucks.

I don't know how Pros walk around over 300 because at 267 I felt like i had a midget hanging on my neck 24/7...you feel like you are walking around with all your clothes on. so now i'm comiing down, i don't know exactly how far down but i'm trying to strike a balance between being big and lean.

And of course being lean "looks" better, how could it not? It just wasn't what i was trying to do.

[chaos]

I don't know how Pros walk around over 300 because at 267 I felt like i had a midget hanging on my neck 24/7...you feel like you are walking around with all your clothes on. so now i'm comiing down, i don't know exactly how far down but i'm trying to strike a balance between being big and lean.

And of course being lean "looks" better, how could it not? It just wasn't what i was trying to do.

I weighed in at 275 Monday and I don't feel that way.

[Palpatine Q]

I weighed in at 275 Monday and I don't feel that way.

aren't you like 6'3"

[chaos]

aren't you like 6'3"

6'2"

How tall are you?

[Palpatine Q]

6'2"

How tall are you?

5'11"

So at my heaviest i weighed 8 lbs less than you at 3 inches shorter. it was uncomfortable. 

[chaos]

5'11"

So at my heaviest i weighed 8 lbs less than you at 3 inches shorter. it was uncomfortable. 

Eh, I'm good here. Do you just lift or do you do cardio or other types of training?

[Meso_z]

bigbobs, give a honest answer..

is nasser helping you with your diet etc?

[Palpatine Q]

it says "built by Nasser" in his avatar..so i would think so

[Sherief Shalaby]

it says "built by Nasser" in his avatar..so i would think so

this is why bobs has become a fine piece of art

[SF1900]

this is why bobs has become a fine piece of art

As long as Nasser doesn't give Bobs back training advice. 

[SF1900]

Old school

[Mr Nobody]

Old school

Fake plates are impressive.

[Sherief Shalaby]

Fake plates are impressive.

i dont believe they are fake.. may be he did 1-2 reps only for the pic.!!.. as for how he lift them,.. may be there was a rack in front of him..

[Mr Nobody]

i dont believe they are fake.. may be he did 1-2 reps only for the pic.!!.. as for how he lift them,.. may be there was a rack in front of him..

Just joking bro, where you been?

[titusisback]

since the entire idea of this thread is to inspire perma bulkers to get leaner, here's a challenge to groink: get as lean as bigbobs is and let's see how big you will look. Getting lean is not as easy as most people think. Groink's excuse will most probably be 'nah, I like being a bit less lean and bigger' but that's exactly what every perma bulker says. The're a.k.a. excuses.  Either accept the challenge or stop stalking bobs - we get it, you're jealous of him - it's quite obvious.