NPC USA: Jason Who (Huh)???

[njflex]

Ask 100 regular people and they'll say he looks ten times better than Gutler.

and to give this dude more props in that 1st pose he's looking like a smaller dennis james with sicker calves.dennis hits that pose same way.

[Earl1972]

was he a teen champ?

E

[njflex]

was he a teen champ?

E

yes,

[Royalty]

Fast foward 6 weeks

yeah he is now pro

[Wiggs]

Parker, you're showin' alot of hate for this guy and he looks fucking awesome.  He will be a pro that does something.  Mark my words on this day at this time.  I said in other posts before the USA watch out for Huh...and he won the overall.  He will not be a flash in the pan.  He's only 25 years old... He only needs to bring up his back and chest....Cutler had many week points at this point in his career so don't write him off hater.

[PORKY]

He discovered Folistatin 

[Wiggs]

I would love to see what changed between last year and this year.  Going from 232 to 257 in a year is no joke when you've already been gassing.  I'm guessing if he hadn't already used slin then he did and if he was already using it he used more of everything.

[pellius]

Matt T really put on some size. Got to get back in the sun again and he forgot to clean up his kitchen this time. Still with the Downs Syndrome expression though.

[Parker]

Parker, you're showin' alot of hate for this guy and he looks fucking awesome.  He will be a pro that does something.  Mark my words on this day at this time.  I said in other posts before the USA watch out for Huh...and he won the overall.  He will not be a flash in the pan.  He's only 25 years old... He only needs to bring up his back and chest....Cutler had many week points at this point in his career so don't write him off hater.

He will be a flash in the pan, unless Flex pushes him. He's got the wrong dude in his corner and half ass back. You got Kai, but Kai's days are numbered, back to this dude, he will come in with a lot of hype like Dennis Wolf, and like Dennis Wolf (Who I said back in 2007, he he was gonna flame out), Huh, will flame out. Huh didn't deserve the overall. Period. The SHW Division is a joke, plain and simple, just a bunch of big dudes. The HW, LHW, MW Divisions are where the real quality mass and conditioning is.

Why has the quality falling down and have been inconsistent thru-out the late 90's and early 2000's, could it be the drugs. The judges are reward effed up physique, you may have some shining examples like Heath, Victor Martinez, but other than that the quality is booty.

I don't hate Huh, I hat what he represents, a Walmart-McDonald's type of thinking, yeah, sure you get a Super Sized meal, but is it quality? No it is not. And I see thru the Bullshit and call it like it is.

Art "effed up genetics, but big as a house" Atwood did a disservice to Huh, and y'all applaude the results, well when you see him try and be bigger and still have the same weak ass back, like Dennis, you won't be singing his praises...

Keep it up, as you see bbing continue it's downward spiral of quality, like everything else in America.

[pellius]

I don't hate Huh, I hat what he represents, a Walmart-McDonald's type of thinking, yeah, sure you get a Super Sized meal, but is it quality? No it is not. And I see thru the Bullshit and call it like it is.

Shit, that's pretty damn brilliant and insightful.

I will be stealing that line and use it on other BB boards and claim as my own.

[gh15]

He will be a flash in the pan, unless Flex pushes him. He's got the wrong dude in his corner and half ass back. You got Kai, but Kai's days are numbered, back to this dude, he will come in with a lot of hype like Dennis Wolf, and like Dennis Wolf (Who I said back in 2007, he he was gonna flame out), Huh, will flame out. Huh didn't deserve the overall. Period. The SHW Division is a joke, plain and simple, just a bunch of big dudes. The HW, LHW, MW Divisions are where the real quality mass and conditioning is.

Why has the quality falling down and have been inconsistent thru-out the late 90's and early 2000's, could it be the drugs. The judges are reward effed up physique, you may have some shining examples like Heath, Victor Martinez, but other than that the quality is booty.

I don't hate Huh, I hat what he represents, a Walmart-McDonald's type of thinking, yeah, sure you get a Super Sized meal, but is it quality? No it is not. And I see thru the Bullshit and call it like it is.

Art "effed up genetics, but big as a house" Atwood did a disservice to Huh, and y'all applaude the results, well when you see him try and be bigger and still have the same weak ass back, like Dennis, you won't be singing his praises...

Keep it up, as you see bbing continue it's downward spiral of quality, like everything else in America.

i start liking you ,,
gh15 approved

[20inch calves]

i don't see it. i really don;t think his back is THAT bad. sure it needs to be alittle bigger but it still looked good.

[Parker]

i don't see it. i really don;t think his back is THAT bad. sure it needs to be alittle bigger but it still looked good.

It's bad in terms of detail. His detail stops at mid back. By the time one wins the USAs, one should have a back capable of comparing to the top guys (minus Jay and Branch, they lack detail as well). Huh's back for a 5'7 257 pounder is laughable, it shouws he just put on weight and that's about it. That's not gonna cut it against Dex, Phil, Vic, Kai, and lesser knowns like Pakulski and that Greek guy. Also lack of mid-lower back detail, shows a lack of mind muscle connection, and a sloppy attitude, you don't neglect that as a high amatuer or Pro, you bring that shit up. Also, for 257, I'd expect his chest to be bigger, what I'm saying is, i expect a far more complete and dialed in physique than what Huh brought, had he been 225-230 and sliced to ribbons with a back to match, I would applaud him, but I can't applaud such mediocrity. Maybe you guys are so used to it....

One may, criticize Flex W for being lazy, but he knew how to wrk his back, both as a amateur and as Pro...superior detail is remembered. Anybody can get big, not everybody can have the detail. Remember the devil is in the details, which is why Lee Haney, Dorian Yates, Ronnie Coleman, Arnold S, will be remember and placed well ahead of others in people's minds.

Shit, that's pretty damn brilliant and insightful.

I will be stealing that line and use it on other BB boards and claim as my own.

 
Don't mind. Think about it, when you go and get a Super sized Extra Value Meal, sure it's big, but it's just filler. You can go to Subway, Quizno's, Blimpies, etc, and for the same money and get a MEAL. Or for the same money you can go to Chipotle, Panera, or Boston Market, and spend the same, and get a Meal that's filling with quality. But, Super sized, is only the here and now, only a filler...only impresses w/o the quality.

 

[Royalty]

Ok guys... Relax... Breath deep... He is only 25... Expect him to improve... Im sure you guys were "perfect" at 25

[Pollux]

Ok guys... Relax... Breath deep... He is only 25... Expect him to improve... Im sure you guys were "perfect" at 25

Give us all the drugs that he's on and we probably would. 

[owner76]

LOL  Bodybuilding.. Oh brother... 

[Parker]

Ok guys... Relax... Breath deep... He is only 25... Expect him to improve... Im sure you guys were "perfect" at 25

5'7 25 and 257, what is going to improve...he was rewarded for only getting bigger, just like Wolf, he won't improve. You can't be that big, gained "30 pounds", and neglect the finer points. That's my point. No polish, when you get into the Pros, the polish should be there. What ruins Pros is that huge leap of weight, the gradual and steady fine tuning is what makes the great ones shine. It's like that for anything. As I said, he's got the wrong dude in his corner...and Flex Magazine has another Wolf to talk about.

[MORTALCOIL]

5'7 25 and 257, what is going to improve...he was rewarded for only getting bigger, just like Wolf, he won't improve. You can't be that big, gained "30 pounds", and neglect the finer points. That's my point. No polish, when you get into the Pros, the polish should be there. What ruins Pros is that huge leap of weight, the gradual and steady fine tuning is what makes the great ones shine. It's like that for anything. As I said, he's got the wrong dude in his corner...and Flex Magazine has another Wolf to talk about.

That's true. Guys like Ray, Flex, Dorian, Levrone were competitive as soon as they turned pro. Now they just give thos to guys who "they think will have the potential" once they'll put on an extra 30 pounds of muscle, hoping that the judges will overlook the gut coming with it, the shitty proportions, the 11 weeks out conditioning, etc>..

[Croatch]

Nasty drug habit here.  Consider taking up something that required skill.
Maybe join a bowling league?

[webcake]

I know it's already been said, but.....is that MattT's kitchen?

[jaejonna]

brutal leopard print slippers...

[MORTALCOIL]

brutal leopard print slippers...

G4Free?

[Rearden Metal]

5'7 25 and 257, what is going to improve...he was rewarded for only getting bigger, just like Wolf, he won't improve. You can't be that big, gained "30 pounds", and neglect the finer points. That's my point. No polish, when you get into the Pros, the polish should be there. What ruins Pros is that huge leap of weight, the gradual and steady fine tuning is what makes the great ones shine. It's like that for anything. As I said, he's got the wrong dude in his corner...and Flex Magazine has another Wolf to talk about.

I think you're right in a lot of ways Parker, but overall I think Huh is pretty impressive. Yes, he's missing parts. Maybe he shouldn't have won (but probably should considering the competition).

But here's the thing: He wasn't even CLOSE to 100% at the USA's. More like 80-85%. If he dieted another 4-6 weeks and came in at 248 or so, he'd have been unreal.

I feel like he has a lot to improve in the conditioning and balance aspect, which if he does show improvement, you'll see an immediate top 10-12 guy. Give him 2 years.

[Wiggs]

Nice little speech but once again you are attributing qualities to a person that doesn't deserve and you still didn't address what I said about Cutler.  Go back to when Jay won his weight class in the Nationals.  Look at his size and his body.  He was in the 250s.  Jay was big but his back lacked detail, his arms weren't the best and he didn't have pro level conditioning....BTW Jay was 25 like Huh...You are insinuating he can make no improvement.  Who is to say what bodypart someone should have at a certain weight.  While his back isn't impressive for his size I have no doubt we'll see improvement in that and his chest cause those are his only weaknesses.  Once he brings pro level conditioning he's set.  You can call him all drugs but then what is Jay who has been juicing since 19?  What the hell is Phil?  Do I need to add this guys waist is small and has ZERO gut at that weight?  His quads and calf combo are already top 5 in the world.

You speak as if he's a mess but he's polished, tight and needs to make the improvements I spoke of.  This isnt 1997 or 2000.  The reason the "quality" has fallen is because the competition is tougher than it was then....Many won't want to hear that, I'm not talking about the weights being higher.  Look at the top 6 in the O last year and look at the top 10 in the O in say 1997 and 2000.  I'm not talkin about just names either look at the actual physique and you'll see improvment in size, conditioning, maturity, almost everything.
So it's much more difficult to be competitive out of the box, nothing to do with drugs.  Just different and overall better physiques.
Kai's days are numbered huh?  Why don't you put your money where you're mouth is and well see if you're willing to stand by your words...

While I respet GH15s drug advice, this was the same guy that said Jay would never win the O blah, blah, blah....nuff said.

[Parker]

Wiggs, the competition is not tougher, like everything around us, the quality has gone down. The last holdouts from the 90s are fading away and you got shit up there. It has been widely said and known that Phil and Kai couldn't stand with Prime Ronnie, Flex, Shawn, Chris Cormier, Dorian, Levrone, even Alq Gurley, Charles Chairmonte, Porter Cottrell, Nasser, Dillett, Ian Harrison, Aaron Baker. Why aren't guys like these in the pro ranks. We have only a few handful, and most have bloated guts, bloated faces, less than stellar muscle seperation, conditioning and aesthetics. You have guys like Melvin Anthony, who piss their genetics away and never show up in shape. And eff to heavens, how the Hell did Kamali get his card---go asked the dead judge he thanked in the pages of Flex Magazine...

The quality is rank, piss poor, and is NOT improving. Anytime society goes down, so does the quality in all aspects of what we do, there might be shining examples, but bbing ain't one. It's a microcosm of today's society fit into one tiny bowl, and amplified 10 fold. The lies, sex, drugs, backstabbing, cheating judges, all reppin that sad reality that America is falling apart and that one singular aspect is quality.


As far as Jay, we all know what Jay was planned for, the great WH, marketing at it's finest. Jay was good, but look at dudes like Edgar Fletcher who had back detail, would come in the same condition, but it was expected for him to come in harder, and he never won his card.

Jay, despite his win last yr, is among the weaker Mr. O's, not a true dominant force, only a force in a weak field, like a bully in a handicap school, or a mini-tornado in a small wheat field.

Yep, I said Kai's days are numbered, never said he wouldn't win anything, but he is starting to look "odd" now, physique wise, he has excellent musculature, in terms of definition, but it beginning to look like he's becoming a slightly more aesthetic black version of Paco---with coorresponding black aesthestics, is what I'm saying.
We all know that they are propping Phil, but it has always been the ones you think are gonna get it, don't.