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The Horror! Christians involved in senseless violence
« on: June 18, 2010, 10:16:26 AM »
http://lastangryfan.com/2010/06/soccer-fan-killed-by-family-for-watching-world-cup-irony-alert/

An argument over the remote control between a South African man who wanted to watch the World Cup, and his family, escalated into a full-fledged assault, ending with the death of the soccer fan at the hands of his wife and two children.

The irony? While David Makoeya, a 61-year-old man from the small village of Makweya, Limpopo wanted to watch Germany vs. Australia, his family wanted to watch a different program…a gospel show. Because nothing says good old fashioned Christianity than beating a loved one to death over a remote control.

Makoeya, unable to wrestle the remote from his wife and kids, got up to change the channel by hand when he was attacked and beaten to death. Police theorize that his wife, 68-year-old Francina, and two children, 36-year-old son Collin and 23-year-old daughter Lebogang, repeatedly banged his head against a wall. The family summoned police after the beating, but by the time the cops got there Makoeya was already dead.

All three were taken into custody, however, Lebogang was released on $200 bail. Francina and Collin are to appear in court on July 27 to face charges.



Here i was thinking that only Muslims are violent  ???

Shouldn't we all condemn them now and all others with their religious beliefs? 
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Re: The Horror! Christians involved in senseless violence
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2010, 10:22:19 AM »
http://lastangryfan.com/2010/06/soccer-fan-killed-by-family-for-watching-world-cup-irony-alert/

An argument over the remote control between a South African man who wanted to watch the World Cup, and his family, escalated into a full-fledged assault, ending with the death of the soccer fan at the hands of his wife and two children.

The irony? While David Makoeya, a 61-year-old man from the small village of Makweya, Limpopo wanted to watch Germany vs. Australia, his family wanted to watch a different program…a gospel show. Because nothing says good old fashioned Christianity than beating a loved one to death over a remote control.

Makoeya, unable to wrestle the remote from his wife and kids, got up to change the channel by hand when he was attacked and beaten to death. Police theorize that his wife, 68-year-old Francina, and two children, 36-year-old son Collin and 23-year-old daughter Lebogang, repeatedly banged his head against a wall. The family summoned police after the beating, but by the time the cops got there Makoeya was already dead.

All three were taken into custody, however, Lebogang was released on $200 bail. Francina and Collin are to appear in court on July 27 to face charges.



Here i was thinking that only Muslims are violent  ???

Shouldn't we all condemn them now and all others with their religious beliefs?  

Wow. A family fighting over TV programming and it got out of hand. Good thing this was a religiously-motivated act of violence carried out in the name of God. Boy, you really are fucking pathetic, you Muslim-slumping clod.

But congratulations, you found an isolated incident of Christians violence. Quite impressive! But here you go:


Risking Life and Limb for Football in Somalia

By Warsameh, Abdurrahman
In the final weeks before the tournament kicked off on Jun. 11, demand for satellite dishes was high. But the Islamist groups that control much of the country have declared the World Cup un-Islamic, threatening dire consequences for anyone found watching. 'We are warning all the youth of Somalia not to dare watch these World Cup matches. It is a waste of money and time and they will not benefit anything or get any experience by watching mad men jumping up and down,' Sheikh Mohamed Abdi Aros, a spokesperson for Hizbul-Islam, told the BBC.

Fans lucky enough to live in territory controlled by the Transitional Federal Government are able to watch in relative security - the Dhamuke Cinema is a popular public viewing place.

But two people watching the game in a private home in another part of the capital Mogadishu were reported to have been killed by militants Jun. 12. Other reports from north-east of Mogadishu say Hizbul-Islam arrested 10 people who were watching Nigeria play Argentina.

But Somalia is a football-mad nation. Despite almost twenty years of civil strife in Somalia, football continues to be not only watched, but played and enjoyed in the east African country.

Daily clashes between the warring sides are the norm for Mogadishu, but it is not unusual to find young footballers playing in deserted neighborhoods while fighting is goes on in other parts of the city.

Games organised by the Somali Football Federation (SSF) between local football clubs are watched by fanatic supporters in spite of the prevailing insecurity in the capital.

'Nothing will stop us from playing football which is loved by many people in this country,' Shafii Mohyadeen, SFF spokesman told IPS.

The city's stadia are either too dilapidated to play in, or occupied by forces from the feuding sides. Tournaments are held in temporary playing grounds in relatively safe areas in?Mogadishu.

'I believe the game has a future in Somalia just as in any other country,' Mohyadeen said.'Every time we have a game, thousands of fans pack the playing grounds to watch.'

Somalia's national football team, the Ocean Stars, continues to represent the country in international competition.

The country's U-17 squad qualified for the next round of the African youth championships after beating the Kenyan team in mid- April. Somalia secured a 0-0 draw in a hotly-contested match at the Oserian stadium outside Nairobi, after humiliating their Kenyan counterparts 3-1 in the first leg earlier in the month.

'That victory was a boost to our national morale, and as supporters we see what our team can do if they play to the best of their ability,' said an ecstatic Mohamed Yare, a fan from Mogadishu. 'We hope in time Somalia could qualify for a continental or regional championships or even the World Cup.'

Somalis in the diaspora have preserved this passion for the game. Dozens of Somali football clubs in Western Europe and North America play in tournaments both within the Somali exile community and in their host countries.

Players like Cisse Aadan Abshir, the Ocean Stars' all-time leading scorer who plays for Norwegian side Eidsvold Turn, Ayub Daud, on loan at Italian third division club Lumezzane but registered to Italian giants Juventus, and Liban Abdi, of Hungarian club Ferencvaros, are among the Somali exiles who are playing in professional leagues.

Many of the players in the national team are drawn from overseas, others come from prominent Mogadishu clubs like Banaadir and the reigning league champions, FC Elman.

Football is one of the fragile instruments used to promote peace in Somalia. A number of former child soldiers have been persuaded to swap their guns for football.

'However difficult our situation is, we believe football can play a major role in helping peace and stability prevail in our country,' insistes the SSF's Mohyadeen, 'and that is what our federation has long been striving to attain. Football is here to stay, not only as game to be played but as a catalyst for peace and harmony among society.'

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/yb/146317142



Family of 17-Year-Old Somali Girl Abuses Her for Leaving Islam

Young Christian beaten, shackled to tree.


NAIROBI, Kenya, June 15 (CDN) — The Muslim parents of a 17-year-old Somali girl who converted to Christianity severely beat her for leaving Islam and have regularly shackled her to a tree at their home for more than a month, Christian sources said.


Nurta Mohamed Farah of Bardher, Gedo Region in southern Somalia, has been confined to her home since May 10, when her family found out that she had embraced Christianity, said a Christian leader who visited the area.


“When the woman’s family found out that she converted to Christianity, she was beaten badly but insisted on her new-found religion,” said the source on condition of anonymity.


Her parents also took her to a doctor who prescribed medication for a “mental illness,” he said. Alarmed by her determination to keep her faith, her father, Hassan Kafi Ilmi, and mother, Hawo Godane Haf, decided she had gone crazy and forced her to take the prescribed medication, but it had no effect in swaying her from her faith, the source said.


Traditionally, he added, many Somalis believe the Quran cures the sick, especially the mentally ill, so the Islamic scripture is continually recited to her twice a week.


“The girl is very sick and undergoing intense suffering,” he said.


Her suffering began after she declined her family’s offer of forgiveness in exchange for renouncing Christianity, the source said. The confinement began after the medication and punishments failed.


The tiny, shaken Christian community in Gedo Region reports that the girl is shackled to a tree by day and is put in a small, dark room at night, he said.


“There is little the community can do about her condition, which is very bad, but I have advised our community leader to keep monitoring her condition but not to meddle for their own safety,” the source told Compass. “We need prayers and human advocacy for such inhuman acts, and for freedom of religion for the Somali people.”


Somalia’s Transitional Federal Government generally did not enforce protection of religious freedom found in the Transitional Federal Charter, according to the U.S. Department of State’s 2009 International Religious Freedom Report.


“Non-Muslims who practiced their religion openly faced occasional societal harassment,” the report stated. “Conversion from Islam to another religion was considered socially unacceptable. Those suspected of conversion faced harassment or even death from members of their community.”

http://www.compassdirect.org/english/country/somalia/21600/



Muslims in Pakistan Kidnap, Rape Christian Girl

Five men threatened to kill her unless her father allowed one to marry her.


RAWALPINDI, Pakistan, June 16 (CDN) — Five Muslims here kidnapped and raped a Christian girl after threatening to kill her unless her father allowed one of them to marry her.
 
Lazarus Masih said one of his three daughters, 14, was kidnapped on May 29 by five men identified only as Guddu, Kamran, Waqas, Adil and Ali.
 
Police recovered her on June 6 in a raid on the home where she was being held, though the suspects escaped.


“They threatened that if I don’t get her married to Guddu, they would kill her,” Masih said. “One of them said, ‘We attended an Islamic religious convention, and the speaker said if you marry a non-Muslim or rape a non-Muslim girl, you will get 70 virgins in heaven.”
 
He said that when he and his wife returned from work at around 11 a.m. on May 29, their 14-year-old daughter was not at home; his other daughters had been at school and said they did not know where she had gone.


During the family’s search for her, they heard from Masih’s brother-in-law, Yousaf Masih, that he had seen five Muslim men follow her earlier that morning.
 
“In the morning around 7:30 a.m., I saw that [name withheld] and another girl were sitting in a rickshaw and five Muslim guys – Guddu, Kamran, Waqas, Adil and Ali – followed the rickshaw,” Yousaf Masih told the girl’s father.
 
Family members said the suspects took her to a house near Islamabad, where they gave her a drug that rendered her unconscious, and raped her. A medical report confirmed that she was given drugs and raped.
 
Lazarus Masih, who lives with his daughters and wife in Mohalla Raja Sultan, Rawalpindi, filed a First Information Report at the Waris Khan police station on June 1 against all five men. He said Guddu, Kamran and Waqas sell and use drugs.

He also contacted advocacy organization Ephlal Ministry, which along with representatives of Life for All and Peace Pakistan met with police chief Mazhar Hussain Minhas and demanded immediate action for the recovery of the girl.

“This is a very sad incident, and we will do whatever we can to recover the girl,” Hussain Minhas told them.
 
Devastated family members said the girl remained frightened and was not speaking to anyone.
 
“It is such a shame that the religious leaders teach inhuman acts,” said the Rev. John Gill of Shamsabad Catholic Church. “This incident has ruined the life of an innocent child.”

The family formerly belonged to the Catholic parish but now affiliates with a Protestant church, New Life Ministry in Rawalpindi.

http://www.compassdirect.org/english/country/pakistan/21649/


Moroccan Islamists Use Facebook to Target Christians

RABAT, Morocco, June 17 (CDN) — Moroccan Christians say Muslim extremists in the country are aiding and encouraging the government to pursue them by exposing and vilifying them on social networking site Facebook.

Facebook user Gardes Maroc Maroc has posted 32 image collages featuring dozens of Christian converts, calling them “hyena evangelists” or “wolves in lamb’s skins” who are trying to “shake the faith of Muslims.” That terminology on the website, which is in Arabic, matches that of Morocco’s anti-proselytizing law, which outlaws efforts to “shake the faith of Muslims.”

The online images depict Christian converts and their families from across the country and include details about their roles and activities in churches, their personal addresses and anecdotal stories attempting to malign them.

“These are some pics of Moroccan convert hyenas,” reads one image.

Since March, the Moroccan government has expelled more than 100 foreign Christians for alleged “proselytizing.” Authorities failed to give Christians deportation orders or enough time to settle their affairs before they left.

Observers have called this a calculated effort to purge the historically moderate Muslim country, known for its progressive policies, of all Christian elements – both foreign and national.

Amid a national media campaign to vilify Christians in Morocco, more than 7,000 Muslim clerics signed a statement denouncing all Christian activities and calling foreign Christians’ aid work “religious terrorism.”

On the Facebook page, Gardes Maroc Maroc makes a particularly strident call to Moroccan authorities to investigate adoptive parents of children from the village of Ain Leuh, 50 miles south of Fez. The user claims that local Christians under orders of “foreign missionaries” were attempting to adopt the children so missionary efforts would not “go in vain.”

On March 8, the Moroccan government expelled 26 Christian foreign staff members and parents working at Village of Hope in Ain Leuh.

Now efforts against national Christians have gained momentum. One image on the Facebook page challenged the Islamic Ministry of Religious Affairs and Endowments, saying, “Evangelist hyenas are deriding your Ministry.” The page with the images claimed that Christians had rented out an apartment belonging to that government ministry.

An entire page was dedicated to a well-known Christian TV personality in the Middle East, Rashid Hmami, and his family. The user also inserted pictures of hyenas next to those of Christians, presumably to indicate their danger to the nation.

National Christians Threatened
Moroccan Christians told Compass that authorities had begun harassing them even before the forced deportations of foreigners, and that pressure from officials only intensified in March and April.

Since the deportations started in early March, it seems that authorities, extremists and society as a whole have colluded against them, local Christians said. Dozens of Christians have been called to police stations for interrogation. Many of them have been threatened and verbally abused.

“They mocked our faith,” said one Moroccan Christian who requested anonymity. “They didn’t talk nicely.”  

Authorities interrogated the convert for eight hours and followed him for three weeks in March and April, he said. During interrogation, he added, local police told him they were prepared to throw him in jail and kill him.

Another Moroccan Christian reported that a Muslim had taken him to court because of his Christian activities. Most Moroccan Christians that spoke to Compass said the attitudes of their Muslim relatives had shifted, and many have been kicked out of their homes or chosen to leave “to not create problems” for their families.

Moroccan converts meet in house churches. Some of them have stopped meeting until the pressure subsides.

“The government is testing the reactions,” said Moroccan lawyer Abdel Adghirni of the recent pressure on Christians.

The lawyer, known as one of the strongest defenders of Berber rights in Morocco, said that although the government’s recent reactions seem regressive, they are part of the nation’s societal transformation process.

“The government is trying to dominate,” said Adghirni. “They are defending themselves. They feel the wind of change. All of this is normal for me – like a complex chemistry that activates as different elements come into contact. Things are moving.”

Congressional Hearing
In an effort to alert U.S. Congress to the sudden turn against religious tolerance in Morocco, the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission is holding congressional hearings today on the deportations of foreign Christians from the country.

Earlier today, the National Clergy Council held a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., to congratulate the Moroccan government on religious tolerance. Organizers of the congressional hearings said they view the council’s press conference as an effort to counter the hearings.

The Rev. Rob Schenck, who heads the council, has had numerous exchanges with Moroccan Islamic leaders and in early April met with the Moroccan ambassador to the United States.

“I have enjoyed a close friendship of several years with the ambassador,” Schenck stated on his website.

Organizers of the congressional hearings have said they are baffled that the National Clergy Council, and in particular Schenck, would speak so highly of the Moroccan government at a time when it is in such blatant violation of human rights.

“There’s good and bad in every country, but what Morocco has done on the whole to advance religious liberty in that region of the world is extraordinary,” Schenck said in a media statement yesterday on Christian Newswire. “We hope to present a fair and balanced picture of this unusual country.”

Congressman Frank Wolf (R-Va.), co-chairman of the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission, said that the Moroccan government has deported nearly 50 U.S. citizens.

“In spite of this, the U.S. government has pledged $697.5 million to Morocco over the next five years through the Millennium Challenge Corporation,” he said. Wolf is advocating that the United States withhold the nearly $697.5 million in aid that it has pledged to Morocco.  

“It is inappropriate for American taxpayer money to go to a nation which disregards the rights of American citizens residing in Morocco and forcibly expels Americans without due process of law,” he said.

Among those appearing at the hearing today is Dutch citizen Herman Boonstra, leader of Village of Hope, who was expelled in March. Boonstra and his wife were forced to leave eight adopted children in Morocco. Moroccan authorities have refused re-entry for the couple, as they have for all deported Christian foreigners.

Lawyer Adghirni said he believes Morocco cannot survive and develop economically – and democratically – without national diversity.

“We can’t be free without Christians,” Adghirni said. “The existence of Christians among us is the proof of liberty.”

http://www.compassdirect.org/english/country/morocco/21797/




Should I keep going? I could continue to embarrass you but I figure you'll probably slink off out of here. That took 30 seconds to find and are a fraction of the incidents that have occurred within the last 7 days. ::)

Perhaps you should bring up the 8, count them 8, anti/pro-abortion related murders since 1993. LOL.



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Re: The Horror! Christians involved in senseless violence
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2010, 10:29:31 AM »
Yawn.  More pathetic posts from you.  Yes all Muslims are violent and evil  ::) keep trying there BF the hatred is strong in you. 

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Re: The Horror! Christians involved in senseless violence
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2010, 10:33:00 AM »
Makoeya, unable to wrestle the remote from his wife and kids, got up to change the channel by hand when he was attacked and beaten to death.

This is sad, but yet also a bit comic.  I picture the wife and kids doing a 4 Horseman style gang up on the old man.

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Re: The Horror! Christians involved in senseless violence
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2010, 10:34:28 AM »
Yawn.  More pathetic posts from you.  Yes all Muslims are violent and evil  ::) keep trying there BF the hatred is strong in you.  



Hahaha, your thread was just decimated in one post. Feel free to move along now.

You can continue to post isolated acts of violence by Christians in your attempt to compare it to Islam. It's pathetic how far you have to reach. Digging up a random act of familial violence over a TV program and likening it to the thousands of people that die at the hands of Muslims killing in the name of Allah every month. From the car bombings, to the beheadings, to the assassinations, the drive-by shootings, and so on and so on.

But go ahead. Keep posting your isolated incidents. For every incident you post I can easily counter with 500+ incidents involving Islam. There have been 15,500+ documented(countless more undocumented) deadly terrorist attacks since 9/11. And therein lies the problem, you pathetic apologist.

And I'm impressed. You even managed to tie-in some cries about hatred or whatever the fuck you're crying about. Nice of you to ignore my response and question I asked you the last time you dropped that line. Why is that, by the way?  ::)

What a pathetic individual you are. Truly pathetic.

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Re: The Horror! Christians involved in senseless violence
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2010, 10:37:08 AM »
Decimated how?  It's to show how fu*king stupid it is to blame all acts of violence of religious people on all followers of that religion.  Because guess what?  People are violent, were violent before religion and are still violent with religion.  Oh gosh let's blame religion and all it's followers  ::)

Your failure to see this is more proof of your stupidity and small mindedness but hey keep 'decimating' the internet with your anti-Islam posts. 
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2010, 10:40:44 AM »
Decimated how?  It's to show how fu*king stupid it is to blame all acts of violence of religious people on all followers of that religion.  Because guess what?  People are violent, were violent before religion and are still violent with religion.  Oh gosh let's blame religion and all it's followers  ::)

Your failure to see this is more proof of your stupidity and small mindedness but hey keep 'decimating' the internet with your anti-Islam posts. 

You have no argument. Really, you have no grasp of what you're talking about and you continually flail about like a child throwing a temper tantrum. You're incapable of refuting any points I make and instead go to the tried-and-true far-left dipshit tactic of crying bigotry and hatred as a means of discrediting the person who doesn't agree with your fairy-tale view of the world, all the while ignoring any response to said claims.

In short, you are a joke. And a pathetic one at that. Give it up and stick to talking about things that you can feign having an idea about, because this isn't one of them.


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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2010, 10:43:24 AM »
Speaking of family violence from this week:

Canada: Honor killing victim 16-year-old Aqsa Parvez's father and brother sentenced to life of prison dawah

Aqsa Parvez's father and her brother have been sentenced to life in prison for what the judge called the "twisted and repugnant" murder of the 16-year-old.

Parvez was strangled to death in the family home in Mississauga, Ont., in December 2007. Her father, Muhammad Parvez, and brother Waqas Parvez, 26, pleaded guilty to second-degree murder on Tuesday.

The father "literally had her blood on his hands [while she had] her brother's DNA on her fingernails," Superior Court Justice Bruce Durno said in the Brampton, Ont., courtroom.

Durno said in handing down the second-degree murder sentence that he found it "profoundly disturbing that a 16-year-old could be murdered by a father and brother for the purpose of saving family pride, for saving them from what they perceived as family embarrassment."

Aqsa Parvez, the youngest of eight siblings, died early in the morning on Dec. 10, 2007.

She had been waiting at a school bus stop, but her brother, Waqas, arrived and took her to the family home.

About 30 minutes later, Muhammad Parvez called 911 and reported his daughter's death.

When police arrived, they found the teen fully clothed, lying on her bed with blood dripping from her nose.

Muhammad Parvez had blood on his hands and confessed to the killing. Waqas had left.

Police later discovered Waqas had strangled his sister. His DNA was found under her fingernails — evidence that the girl had fought for her life.

A conviction for second-degree murder brings an automatic life sentence, but allows the judge some latitude in parole eligibility, which can range from 10 to 25 years. Durno ruled the pair will not be eligible for parole for 18 years.

Durno said there was evidence of premeditation in the killing and described the plot as coming from a "twisted and a repugnant mindset."

Muhammad Parvez abused the trust and authority he had over his daughter, said the judge, describing her as "a young, vulnerable victim with a life ahead of her in Canada."

The sentence will send an important message "to others that would think of committing a crime like this."

In an agreed statement of facts entered into evidence on Tuesday, the court heard of Aqsa Parvez's rebellion against her traditional family.

She objected to having to wear traditional clothing and had little privacy at home.

Aqsa, according to the court documents, wanted to get a part-time job and enjoy the same freedoms as other girls she knew.

The teen left the family home twice. It was after she left for the second time that her father and brother killed her.

The murder has been described in some accounts as an "honour killing."

In an interview with police, Aqsa's mother, Anwar Jan Parvez, said her husband told her he killed his youngest child because "this is my insult. My community will say, 'You have not been able to control your daughter.' This is my insult. She is making me naked."

But outside the Brampton court on Wednesday, defence lawyer Joseph guy said that is not the way he views the tragic events.

"Muhammad tried … to salvage the relationship with his daughter — concessions that would not have been made if this was a traditional killing for honour. [He made] many attempts to speak to school officials. Twice she ran away and twice he went to the police for help to help look for her. These are things that are not necessarily consistent with a father seeking to avenge pride for his family," guy said.

Anwar Jan Parvez was in court to hear the sentence.

Defence lawyer Stacey Nichols said the mother "misses [Aqsa] very much. She has a son, and she has a husband she still loves very much, and she's begged the court for mercy.… It's just generally a devastating circumstance for the family."

http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/cbc-article.aspx?cp-documentid=24591326

LOL! Murdering a 16-year-old girl because of a perceived slight to the "family pride". What a fucking joke. RIP Aqsa.

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Re: The Horror! Christians involved in senseless violence
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2010, 10:48:49 AM »
Sorry kcballer, but this has nothing to do with Christians or any religion for that matter.  

1.  The World Cup is, has always been, and will always be a matter of life and death to people outside the US.  Remember the Colombian footballer who was assassinated after returning to Colombia because his mistake contributed to Colombia being disqualified from the World Cup?  That's just one example.

2.  Wives can be vicious and violent, no matter their religion, nationality, skin color or political affiliation.  She just didn't want to watch Fútbol.

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Re: The Horror! Christians involved in senseless violence
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2010, 10:52:58 AM »
That is a terrible tragedy.  Did you also read how Imam Zijad Delic of the Canadian Islamic Congress said there is "nothing Islamic" in taking a human life.

"You cannot judge Canadian-Muslim communities on the basis of what happened to Aqsa Parvez." and went on to give a sermon on Canadian-Muslim family dynamics.  

But hey he's violent and evil right?  Even though he's condemed it and any taking of life he's still an evil Muslim who wishes us all dead  ::)

Yeah it so easy to refute your points when you hold that logic.


But what am i to refute exactly?  That those acts happened?  That not all Muslims are for violence?  Give me a break.  You're holding onto a belief that can not be proven and has been blown out by both Stark and myself as foolish, because guess what we've both either lived or dealt with Muslims and have Muslim friends.  
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Re: The Horror! Christians involved in senseless violence
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2010, 10:55:10 AM »
Sorry kcballer, but this has nothing to do with Christians or any religion for that matter.  

1.  The World Cup is, has always been, and will always be a matter of life and death to people outside the US.  Remember the Colombian footballer who was assassinated after returning to Colombia because his mistake contributed to Colombia being disqualified from the World Cup?  That's just one example.

2.  Wives can be vicious and violent, no matter their religion, nationality, skin color or political affiliation.  She just didn't want to watch Fútbol.

I'm aware it has nothing to do with Christianity and it's not meant as a serious attempt to pin it on any religion.  It's to show how foolish BF is when he posts articles of terrible acts by Muslims and claims all Muslims are somehow the exact same as the perpetrators of the act he posted. 

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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2010, 10:57:50 AM »
Decimated how?  It's to show how fu*king stupid it is to blame all acts of violence of religious people on all followers of that religion.  Because guess what?  People are violent, were violent before religion and are still violent with religion.  Oh gosh let's blame religion and all it's followers  ::)

Your failure to see this is more proof of your stupidity and small mindedness but hey keep 'decimating' the internet with your anti-Islam posts. 

While I agree anytime you use the group think argument its faulty.But I rarely find libs condeming other libs like Chris Mathews who groups militias,tea party people and radio hosts right alongside McVeigh.So ,you may be right that conservatives group muslims together as all violent,but I just saw a show on prime time on MSNBC which basically called all conservatives potential domestic terrorists,not a peep from libs.

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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2010, 11:05:46 AM »
While I agree anytime you use the group think argument its faulty.But I rarely find libs condeming other libs like Chris Mathews who groups militias,tea party people and radio hosts right alongside McVeigh.So ,you may be right that conservatives group muslims together as all violent,but I just saw a show on prime time on MSNBC which basically called all conservatives potential domestic terrorists,not a peep from libs.

Well if that was being said it's foolish.  It's stereotyping and it makes for sellable news but it's not right.

 
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Re: The Horror! Christians involved in senseless violence
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2010, 11:47:30 AM »
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