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Re: Ever Notice This Trend with Liberals??
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2010, 07:27:32 AM »
Ive heard a member of Obamas administration say that Mao is their favorite political philosopher.That pretty much sums up the administartion.

Republicans calling Obama socialist is correct.Obama took over GM,Obama took over the banks,Obama took over health care,Obama took over student loans,Obama dictated what CEOs can make.Sorry,that is not a talking point.Obama IS a socialist


no no and no...A loan and a take over arent the same....please dead the overexaggeration. Its hella wack. You act like the government runs the banks and AUTO industry..And if the government took over healthcare then why are there still insurance companies and medical groups..oh...because the government dosent run healthcare. Man o Man...God forbid we post the real with out the extreme hyperbole...its like sickening...

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« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2010, 07:29:38 AM »

no no and no...A loan and a take over arent the same....please dead the overexaggeration. Its hella wack. You act like the government runs the banks and AUTO industry..And if the government took over healthcare then why are there still insurance companies and medical groups..oh...because the government dosent run healthcare. Man o Man...God forbid we post the real with out the extreme hyperbole...its like sickening...


The govt is now dictating the terms of the policies that can be written.  With regard the the banks, I guess you dont read much aside from your medical books. 


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« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2010, 07:34:57 AM »
The other trend with the left is that the things they screamed about for 8 years under Bush are now completely ok since is their messiah in office.

Case in point.  Utter silence from the liberals.  Not a peep.

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CIA gives Blackwater firm new $100 million contract
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The Central Intelligence Agency has hired Xe Services, the private security firm formerly known as Blackwater Worldwide, to guard its facilities in Afghanistan and elsewhere, according to an industry source.

The previously undisclosed CIA contract is worth about $100 million, said the industry source, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the deal, which is classified.

“It’s for protective services … guard services, in multiple regions,” said the source.

Two other security contractors, Triple Canopy and DynCorp International, put in losing bids for the CIA’s business, the source said.

The revelation comes only a day after members of a federal commission investigating war-zone contractors blasted the State Department for granting Blackwater with a new $120 million contract to guard U.S. consulates under construction in Afghanistan.

CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano stopped short of confirming the contract, saying only that Xe personnel would not be involved in operations.

“While this agency does not, as a rule, comment on contractual relationships we may or may not have, we follow all applicable federal laws and regulations,” Gimigliano said.

The spokesman added, “We have a very careful process when it comes to procurement, and we take it seriously. We’ve also made it clear that personnel from Xe do not serve with CIA in any operational roles.”

Mark Corallo, a spokesman for Xe Services president Erik Prince, said the company would have no comment.

“Blackwater has undergone some serious changes," maintained a U.S. official who is familiar with the deal and spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss it freely.

"They’ve had to if they want to survive. They’ve had to prove to the government that they’re a responsible outfit. Having satisfied every legal requirement, they have the right to compete for contracts. They have people who do good work, at times in some very dangerous places. Nobody should forget that, either."

The Moyock, N.C.-based firm has been fighting off prosecutions and civil suits since a September 2007 incident in Baghdad, when its guards opened fire in a city square, allegedly killing 17 unarmed civilians and wounding 24.

In December a federal judge threw out charges against five of the alleged Blackwater shooters on procedural grounds, but the Justice Department is appealing the ruling.

Early this year German prosecutors launched a preliminary investigation into allegations that the CIA sent Blackwater operatives on an assassination mission against a suspected terrorist in Hamburg, Germany, in 2001.

In April, meanwhile, a federal grand jury indicted five of Prince's top deputies, including his legal counsel, on 15 counts of conspiracy, weapons and obstruction-of-justice charges.

Prince personally has not been charged with any crimes.

Members of the federal Commission on Wartime Contracting hammered a State Department official during a hearing Monday, repeatedly asking how much weight was given to Blackwater’s record when the decision was made to give the firm a new contract last week.

“I don’t want to guess,” said Charlene Lamb, the department’s assistant director of International Programs.

Apparently weary of all the controversy, Prince announced two weeks ago he was putting the company on the block.

“A number of firms” are interested in buying the company, a spokeswoman said, declining to elaborate.

Meanwhile, on June 15, The Nation magazine reported that Prince was considering moving to the United Arab Emirates.

“If Prince's rumored future move is linked to concerns over possible indictment,” wrote Jeremy Scahill, author of a book on Blackwater, “the United Arab Emirates would be an interesting choice for a new home -- particularly because it does not have an extradition treaty with the United States.”

Prince's spokesman Corallo declined to discuss his client's plans, saying “his personal life is his own.”

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Re: Ever Notice This Trend with Liberals??
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2010, 07:40:01 AM »
The govt is now dictating the terms of the policies that can be written.  With regard the the banks, I guess you dont read much aside from your medical books. 



I really dont do a lot of reading outside of 3" thick books. But right now im working about 75-85 hours a week...So the only release is getbig..


Im saying this, with your track record and Billys stance on obama. There arent going to be a lot of neutral opinions on anything he does. Its to the point where Obama can say the sky is blue on a sunny day and you will find a way to make that a bad thing. Just sayin. Thats were we are now

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« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2010, 07:47:57 AM »
I really dont do a lot of reading outside of 3" thick books. But right now im working about 75-85 hours a week...So the only release is getbig..


Im saying this, with your track record and Billys stance on obama. There arent going to be a lot of neutral opinions on anything he does. Its to the point where Obama can say the sky is blue on a sunny day and you will find a way to make that a bad thing. Just sayin. Thats were we are now

Billy and I are libertarian minded people.  Obama is the opposite of that and never misses an opportunity to promote his leftists agenda.  were he to reverse course I willappluad him, but that is never going to happen as his is an ideologue first and foremost. 

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Re: Ever Notice This Trend with Liberals??
« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2010, 08:26:09 AM »
Its not socialism for the government to dictate what CEOS of companies make?Wow,then your definition is different then mine.I thought socialism was the government taking over the private sector.So the takeover of banks,health care,auto industry and banks isnt socialism.
Come on! Can't you see it! It's not socialism when a LIB does it... Can't you understand that?? Do as I say... not as I do.. limo lib creed.

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« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2010, 08:30:21 AM »

no no and no...A loan and a take over arent the same....please dead the overexaggeration. Its hella wack. You act like the government runs the banks and AUTO industry..And if the government took over healthcare then why are there still insurance companies and medical groups..oh...because the government dosent run healthcare. Man o Man...God forbid we post the real with out the extreme hyperbole...its like sickening...

Hey big Mal... I like your watered down appology for this president. But no matter how you want to cut the atom, you still cut it. This is socialism man. You can not deny it. When the gov't FORCES a product such as healthcare on its people and if they don't "buy" it, they are fined, THAT IS SOCIALISM. When banks are forced to conceed to accept bailout money or face fines, THAT IS SOCIALISM. When car companies are "STRONGLY URGED" to take bailout money this is SOCIALISM. Ford being the only one to decline Obama's generous offer.

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Re: Ever Notice This Trend with Liberals??
« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2010, 08:39:11 AM »
Hey big Mal... I like your watered down appology for this president. But no matter how you want to cut the atom, you still cut it. This is socialism man. You can not deny it. When the gov't FORCES a product such as healthcare on its people and if they don't "buy" it, they are fined, THAT IS SOCIALISM. When banks are forced to conceed to accept bailout money or face fines, THAT IS SOCIALISM. When car companies are "STRONGLY URGED" to take bailout money this is SOCIALISM. Ford being the only one to decline Obama's generous offer.

Watered down? What in sam hill are you talking about. To compare the US Gov, medical and economics to Cuba or China is just retarded...Last i checked...i cant just go into a hospital and get care with out comin out of the pocket...that by defination isnt socialism...What the fuck are you talking about?

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« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2010, 08:44:08 AM »
Watered down? What in sam hill are you talking about. To compare the US Gov, medical and economics to Cuba or China is just retarded...Last i checked...i cant just go into a hospital and get care with out comin out of the pocket...that by defination isnt socialism...What the fuck are you talking about?

If you are an illegal from the beloved, sacred, and all perfect Mehico, you wouldnt have to pay. 

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Re: Ever Notice This Trend with Liberals??
« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2010, 08:46:53 AM »
If you are an illegal from the beloved, sacred, and all perfect Mehico, you wouldnt have to pay. 

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But im born in the US and i have to pay...so it aint Socialism

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« Reply #35 on: June 23, 2010, 08:48:16 AM »

But im born in the US and i have to pay...so it aint Socialism

Join the club.  I'm just a dago from the Bronx and usually have to pay out the ass at every turn myself.   

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« Reply #36 on: June 23, 2010, 08:50:10 AM »
The government fired the CEO of GM and put in their hand picked replacement.The government fucked the shareholders at GM and rewarded pice of shit unions.The government decides how much banking executives should make.Not sure but that sounds like a takeover.The government is going TO FORCE you to buy health insurance.

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« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2010, 08:51:10 AM »
Join the club.  I'm just a dago from the Bronx and usually have to pay out the ass at every turn myself.   

See...my mom just called me and asked if my dad has to pay 2 copays because he went from Cedars to California hospital. and im all like "i dont know...there wasnt a break in care so WTF...." But thats the part i hate abiout healthcare...that those kinds of converstaions have to happen

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« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2010, 08:55:43 AM »
The government fired the CEO of GM and put in their hand picked replacement.The government fucked the shareholders at GM and rewarded pice of shit unions.The government decides how much banking executives should make.Not sure but that sounds like a takeover.The government is going TO FORCE you to buy health insurance.


Are the employees of those considered government employees...NO...then it aint Socialism...And if "BUY" and "HEALTH INSURANCE" are in the same sentence...it aint Socialism.

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« Reply #39 on: June 23, 2010, 09:00:01 AM »

Are the employees of those considered government employees...NO...then it aint Socialism...And if "BUY" and "HEALTH INSURANCE" are in the same sentence...it aint Socialism.

Its more corporate slavery than anything else TBH.     

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« Reply #40 on: June 23, 2010, 09:22:44 AM »
Its more corporate slavery than anything else TBH.     

I figured it out...Im a hopeful md and you are an Esq...Thats why we differ so much in our view of the same issue..

An attorney uses descriptive words and has to paint a picture when in the court room.

As a Scientist (lol) everything is black and white and we cant overstate anything because its harmful to data anayl

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« Reply #41 on: June 23, 2010, 09:25:50 AM »
I figured it out...Im a hopeful md and you are an Esq...Thats why we differ so much in our view of the same issue..

An attorney uses descriptive words and has to paint a picture when in the court room.

As a Scientist (lol) everything is black and white and we cant overstate anything because its harmful to data anayl

I don't do med mal and think attorneys' should have little or a small part of the med mal situation.  I favor a mediatio/arbitration situation. 

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« Reply #42 on: June 23, 2010, 09:37:42 AM »

Are the employees of those considered government employees...NO...then it aint Socialism...And if "BUY" and "HEALTH INSURANCE" are in the same sentence...it aint Socialism.

IF THE GOVERNMENT DECIDES WHO RUNS THE COMPANY AND WHAT THE COMPANY CAN PAY THEM,THEN DONT CALL IT SOCIALISM,CALL IT COMMUNISM,BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT IS DICTATING COMPANT POLICY.

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« Reply #43 on: June 23, 2010, 09:42:21 AM »
Watered down? What in sam hill are you talking about. To compare the US Gov, medical and economics to Cuba or China is just retarded...Last i checked...i cant just go into a hospital and get care with out comin out of the pocket...that by defination isnt socialism...What the fuck are you talking about?
Big -  YOU ARE COMPLETELY IGNORING THE FACTS to which others on here like myself are using to justify our claims that the Omaba admin is a socialist one. Yes. You can go get healthcare. BUT the FACT that you and your Obama appologists seem to ignore is that you can (or soon) not NOT have healthcare under his (Obama) plan. Or risk being attacked by the IRS and have huge fines levied on you, or your business. There was an article posted a few weeks ago where some huge co's like Verizon may remove coverage for their associates completely because the fines will actually be CHEAPER that purchasing healthcare under Obama's plan.
So... if you still seem to think THIS is NOT socialism?? Cheers on that Kool Aid.  ???

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« Reply #44 on: June 23, 2010, 09:43:27 AM »
The government fired the CEO of GM and put in their hand picked replacement.The government fucked the shareholders at GM and rewarded pice of shit unions.The government decides how much banking executives should make.Not sure but that sounds like a takeover.The government is going TO FORCE you to buy health insurance.
Nope.. not socialism... hahahahahahahahahahaaa!!!!

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« Reply #45 on: June 23, 2010, 09:46:50 AM »

Are the employees of those considered government employees...NO...then it aint Socialism...And if "BUY" and "HEALTH INSURANCE" are in the same sentence...it aint Socialism.
Forget it...

Who's on first, Whats on Second, and I dunno is on third.

This goes around and around and around... Liberals will NEVER admit their guy is wrong and that the same things they complained about with Bush is going on. But they fine soo many ways to appologize, and make excuses for them.

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« Reply #46 on: June 23, 2010, 10:03:42 AM »

Are the employees of those considered government employees...NO...then it aint Socialism...And if "BUY" and "HEALTH INSURANCE" are in the same sentence...it aint Socialism.

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« Reply #47 on: June 23, 2010, 10:13:16 AM »
Forget it...

Who's on first, Whats on Second, and I dunno is on third.

This goes around and around and around... Liberals will NEVER admit their guy is wrong and that the same things they complained about with Bush is going on. But they fine soo many ways to appologize, and make excuses for them.

All im saying is this...Im a grown as man and i dont exaggerate words to try to get something accross...to say that the US and Cuba are the same is just fucking dumb.

Im not saying what he has done is right...but it damn sure aint Cuba...

Thats like those fools saying Bush is a Murderer...no...he isnt...Stupid? maybe. Funny?...hell yeah....But not a murderer..You cant say "this plus that, multiplied by that...will someday maybe equal socialism. No...we aint Cuba or China..so dont say it because you sound like a 15 year school kid trying to make a story more than what it is to get a point accross

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« Reply #48 on: June 23, 2010, 10:16:32 AM »
All im saying is this...Im a grown as man and i dont exaggerate words to try to get something accross...to say that the US and Cuba are the same is just fucking dumb.

Im not saying what he has done is right...but it damn sure aint Cuba...

Thats like those fools saying Bush is a Murderer...no...he isnt...Stupid? maybe. Funny?...hell yeah....But not a murderer..You cant say "this plus that, multiplied by that...will someday maybe equal socialism. No...we aint Cuba or China..so dont say it because you sound like a 15 year school kid trying to make a story more than what it is to get a point accross

Its not matter of whether we are cuba now, its a matter of the logical and mostly likely ends of the policies advocated by Obama, Dunn, sunstein, Pelosi, et al. 

And that is . . . . . yes . . . . Cuba and China, if we are lucky.  Obama and his disgusting rabble of an Admn have already pledged allegience to Marx, so screw them, screw Obama, and screw anyone who voted for and still supports him.     

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« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2010, 10:19:21 AM »
Its not matter of whether we are cuba now, its a matter of the logical and mostly likely ends of the policies advocated by Obama, Dunn, sunstein, Pelosi, et al. 

And that is . . . . . yes . . . . Cuba and China, if we are lucky.  Obama and his disgusting rabble of an Admn have already pledged allegience to Marx, so screw them, screw Obama, and screw anyone who voted for and still supports him.     


Broskie...the way our government is set up and how our country is run wont allow it to become another Cuba...come on bro...use your head...checks and balances, lobbiest..sheeeeeeeeit.. too much money