BREAKING: Federal Judge Blocks Obama drilling moritorium. (Yes! FFUUBBOO!!)

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Crickets. Dumb mal, I mean "big" mal can't come up with a single thing. Thread over.

Bro i just went to lunch...calm your punk ass down..

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Hey Big mal - can you give me a few things you think I should applaud Obama about? 

Basically its like this. You can spin anything Obama has done as bad. Thats alls im saying. Healthcare which was deemed by the CBO to save money at the time was good. It opened up 37mil new patients to pull from and since my mother is in healthcare management, its good for her and her company.

I do like the fact that he stepped in with auto Industry. Many a people would be jobless had the fed not stepped in for GM..Can you imagine a world with out Corvette...

Those are the biggest.

I have my gripes too. I think the Stim should have been more about our countris infrastructure eg roads and bridges. I dont like dumb ass programs

I think an exe decision has to repeal dont ask dont tell

to name a couple... Just look at the world without your "i hate obama glasses" or the "i love obama glasses" and call a spade a spade. With out going out of the way to discredit something.

and again Dario..shut your bitch ass up.. real talk

[Soul Crusher]

Bro i just went to lunch...calm your punk ass down..

Fine, digest your food and give me 10 things I as a tax paying citizen should applaud obama over.  

[240 is Back]

I do like the fact that he stepped in with auto Industry. Many a people would be jobless had the fed not stepped in for GM..Can you imagine a world with out Corvette...

Mitt Romney, now the 2012 frontrunner, also applauded Obama's "backbone" on the GM issue. 

[Soul Crusher]

Basically its like this. You can spin anything Obama has done as bad. Thats alls im saying. Healthcare which was deemed by the CBO to save money at the time was good. It opened up 37mil new patients to pull from and since my mother is in healthcare management, its good for her and her company.

I do like the fact that he stepped in with auto Industry. Many a people would be jobless had the fed not stepped in for GM..Can you imagine a world with out Corvette...

Those are the biggest.

I have my gripes too. I think the Stim should have been more about our countris infrastructure eg roads and bridges. I dont like dumb ass programs

I think an exe decision has to repeal dont ask dont tell

to name a couple... Just look at the world without your "i hate obama glasses" or the "i love obama glasses" and call a spade a spade. With out going out of the way to discredit something.

and again Dario..shut your bitch ass up.. real talk

So the answer is basically nothing other than the auto bailout since obamaCare is already proven to be based on fraudulent numbers and the CBO has already said that its original estimates were way off.  

So bottom line, other than the auto bailout, you cant name one thing.  

gotcha.  

[tonymctones]

Basically its like this. You can spin anything Obama has done as bad. Thats alls im saying. Healthcare which was deemed by the CBO to save money at the time was good. It opened up 37mil new patients to pull from and since my mother is in healthcare management, its good for her and her company.

Mal the CBO number as touted by the dems before the bill passed where wrong and manipulated numbers...

many ppl said so now and the last 2 revisions of the health care bill both show it costing money not saving money...thats without amnesty if it is passed...so b/c your mom is in the industry your for it?  REALLY DUDE?

so ppl who have family member in the oil industry should say screw everyone else lets do what we want to do so our family members can make money...really dude?

Mal the health care bill is the biggest thing so far to be pissed off about

[Option D]

So the answer is basically nothing other than the auto bailout since obamaCare is already proven to be based on fraudulent numbers and the CBO has already said that its original estimates were way off.  

So bottom line, other than the auto bailout, you cant name one thing.  

gotcha.  

outside of the stim and auto healthcare...which i said i was for..guess you didnt read that..

out side of those things..what other major issues has he had to decide on? Iraq...i like it. Pakastan, i like it too..?

[Soul Crusher]

Mal the CBO number as touted by the dems before the bill passed where wrong and manipulated numbers...

many ppl said so now and the last 2 revisions of the health care bill both show it costing money not saving money...thats without amnesty if it is passed...so b/c your mom is in the industry your for it?  REALLY DUDE?

so ppl who have family member in the oil industry should say screw everyone else lets do what we want to do so our family members can make money...really dude?

Mal the health care bill is the biggest thing so far to be pissed off about

And Mal is in med school!  Have fun being 150k in hock and working in the clinic bro.   

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And Mal is in med school!  Have fun being 150k in hock and working in the clinic bro.   

Im sorry i dont suscribe to your "hyperbole the sky is falling" assessment of this administration or future...
Have you ever played football...im guessing no...but either way...when you play ball, you have film session. In film session you assess your preformance more or less...And a big thing that my coaches would harp on was this "when you look at film, youre never did as bad as you thought you did..and you were never as good as you thought you did...somewhere in the middle...because if you were that bad, you wouldnt be here and if you were that awesome...you would be in the nfl.."

I say that to say this..bro....i know it and you know it, You are as transparent as plastic wrap, Whatever Obama does can be spinned in a negative light and you make it your lifes work to find that light. And you also are the King of hyperbole. And all the Palin talk killed any shread of credibility when it came to politics.

Im jus sayin

[BM OUT]

Mitt Romney, now the 2012 frontrunner, also applauded Obama's "backbone" on the GM issue. 

So what?Who cares?He also passed a shitty health care bill in Mass. thats bankrupting the state.I dont get your point.Romney also said its a disgrace that Obama screwed the shareholders and gave everything to the unions in the GM deal and was also against dictating CEO pay.Whats the point your making?

Too Mal,the stimulus has been an utter failure,health care will not bend the cost and millions of Americans are going to lose their present health care.So YOU may like those things but I dont.However,I thought Obama made a great call in the pirate thing and I liked that he agreed to put more tropps in Afghanastan and I actually thought the home buyers tax credit was a good idea.

[Soul Crusher]

Im sorry i dont suscribe to your "hyperbole the sky is falling" assessment of this administration or future...
Have you ever played football...im guessing no...but either way...when you play ball, you have film session. In film session you assess your preformance more or less...And a big thing that my coaches would harp on was this "when you look at film, youre never did as bad as you thought you did..and you were never as good as you thought you did...somewhere in the middle...because if you were that bad, you wouldnt be here and if you were that awesome...you would be in the nfl.."

I say that to say this..bro....i know it and you know it, You are as transparent as plastic wrap, Whatever Obama does can be spinned in a negative light and you make it your lifes work to find that light. And you also are the King of hyperbole. And all the Palin talk killed any shread of credibility when it came to politics.

Im jus sayin

Keep your head in the sand Mal.   And again - other than the auto bailout - you cant name one good thing Obama is done.  NOT ONE!  

The health care fiasco was based on lies and if you paid attention you would have known that Obama and Sebellius held back a study prior to the vote showing that ObamaCare adds to the deficit, not save money.  So that farce is off the table.  

Come on - you support Obama - tell me some ggood things he has done - we are all waiting since other than Benny, Blacken, 240, and yourself, no one seems to be able to come up with anything whatsoever other than his partying 24/7.    

[240 is Back]

So what?Who cares?He also passed a shitty health care bill in Mass. thats bankrupting the state.I dont get your point.Romney also said its a disgrace that Obama screwed the shareholders and gave everything to the unions in the GM deal and was also against dictating CEO pay.Whats the point your making?

You'll probably be voting for Romney for president in 2012 dude.

[Option D]

Keep your head in the sand Mal.   And again - other than the auto bailout - you cant name one good thing Obama is done.  NOT ONE!  

The health care fiasco was based on lies and if you paid attention you would have known that Obama and Sebellius held back a study prior to the vote showing that ObamaCare adds to the deficit, not save money.  So that farce is off the table.  

Come on - you support Obama - tell me some ggood things he has done - we are all waiting since other than Benny, Blacken, 240, and yourself, no one seems to be able to come up with anything whatsoever other than his partying 24/7.    

Are you retarded, There were 3 issues, Stim bill, auto bail out and healthcare....and...As the owner of my mothers medical group hailed it as good for business...yeah...that happened. Yeah i agree with all 3

[Soul Crusher]

Are you retarded, There were 3 issues, Stim bill, auto bail out and healthcare....and...As the owner of my mothers medical group hailed it as good for business...yeah...that happened. Yeah i agree with all 3

Stim Bill has failed and you still support it?   

[BM OUT]

You'll probably be voting for Romney for president in 2012 dude.

If he is the nominee designated to go against the community organiser and chief then YES SIR I will be voting for him.In fact ,I cant think of one person in politics on the republican side that isnt 100 times better then that racist piece of crap.

[Option D]

Stim Bill has failed and you still support it?   

failed...how?

[Soul Crusher]

failed...how?

The justification for passing the stim bill was that if WE DID NOT PASS THE STIM BILL UE WOULD GO TO 8%. 

Now, since the stim bill has passed not only have UE exceeded 8%, but has gone to 10% and 17% unofficially in the U6 number.   

[BM OUT]

failed...how?

It hasnt created any permanent jobs at all.They are all temp government jobs.The stimulus was a union slush fund designed to pay back unions.So I disagree with 33 on this.It failed if you believed Obama thought it would create jobs,but it was a great success in Obamas eyes because he paid off his thug union buddies.

[kcballer]

The justification for passing the stim bill was that if WE DID NOT PASS THE STIM BILL UE WOULD GO TO 8%. 

Now, since the stim bill has passed not only have UE exceeded 8%, but has gone to 10% and 17% unofficially in the U6 number.   

I wouldn't say the stim bill failed at all.  I would say the underestimation of this admin failed. 

Mal this is a guy who thinks the new deal by FDR furthered the depression.  It's classic republican revisionist history.  He cites an obscure paper by two UCLA profs as proof.  Little does his know the paper is widely ridiculed for the stupidity of the notion. 

[Soul Crusher]

I wouldn't say the stim bill failed at all.  I would say the underestimation of this admin failed. 

Mal this is a guy who thinks the new deal by FDR furthered the depression.  It's classic republican revisionist history.  He cites an obscure paper by two UCLA profs as proof.  Little does his know the paper is widely ridiculed for the stupidity of the notion. 

So when did the depression end KC?   

As for the stim bill - its a failure by the definitions set by those who created it.   

[240 is Back]

before I can make any assessment on the stim bill, i'd need to see a list of all of its goals, then how many of them were achieved.

I consider the Iraq war to be a success.  We got saddam out, got the dollar back to their oil, got bases, etc.  Did we achieve every goal for teh war?  Goodness no!  It took years longer than expected, with way more casualties.  it's still a WIN, even if it was only 60% or 80% of the goals desired, in way longer.

I think the stim bill may be the same way.  The dollar is safe, the banks are still in business.  Job losses have reversed since it passed.  We're in the POSITIVE job growth now.  Sure, the white house didn't get the UE numbers it desired, so maybe the bill is only an 80% success.  Still, if we're going to call iraq a win even though it took 6 years instead of 6 months, or because it might have cost a trillion instead of being funded by oil revenues... even being 6 years and a trillion bucks off, it's still a SUCCESS.

[Soul Crusher]

before I can make any assessment on the stim bill, i'd need to see a list of all of its goals, then how many of them were achieved.

I consider the Iraq war to be a success.  We got saddam out, got the dollar back to their oil, got bases, etc.  Did we achieve every goal for teh war?  Goodness no!  It took years longer than expected, with way more casualties.  it's still a WIN, even if it was only 60% or 80% of the goals desired, in way longer.

I think the stim bill may be the same way.  The dollar is safe, the banks are still in business.  Job losses have reversed since it passed.  We're in the POSITIVE job growth now.  Sure, the white house didn't get the UE numbers it desired, so maybe the bill is only an 80% success.  Still, if we're going to call iraq a win even though it took 6 years instead of 6 months, or because it might have cost a trillion instead of being funded by oil revenues... even being 6 years and a trillion bucks off, it's still a SUCCESS.

Somewhere in there 240 you forgot to mention TRILLIONS in added debt, a phoney recovery proposed up by Fed Reserve printing, all jobs growth being in govt, banks only being solvent due to the carry trade, etc. 

How technical do you want get here?  Just let me know. 

[kcballer]

So when did the depression end KC?   

As for the stim bill - its a failure by the definitions set by those who created it.   

 

[240 is Back]

Somewhere in there 240 you forgot to mention TRILLIONS in added debt, a phoney recovery proposed up by Fed Reserve printing, all jobs growth being in govt, banks only being solvent due to the carry trade, etc.  

How technical do you want get here?  Just let me know.  

So let's try to reach a number here - what % of stim goals do you feel would have to have been achieved in order to be a success/failure?

And... unless the bill specifically stated anything about NOT creating "TRILLIONS in added debt, a phoney recovery proposed up by Fed Reserve printing, all jobs growth being in govt, banks only being solvent due to the carry trade" - then those factors cannot be included in our rubric for measuring success.

Bush won the iraq war.  he DID say it would be free (oil profits funded), which ended up untrue.  Still, I feel the war was a SUCCESS, dont you?

[Fury]

So let's try to reach a number here - what % of stim goals do you feel would have to have been achieved in order to be a success/failure?

And... unless the bill specifically stated anything about NOT creating "TRILLIONS in added debt, a phoney recovery proposed up by Fed Reserve printing, all jobs growth being in govt, banks only being solvent due to the carry trade" - then those factors cannot be included in our rubric for measuring success.

Bush won the iraq war.  he DID say it would be free (oil profits funded), which ended up untrue.  Still, I feel the war was a SUCCESS, dont you?

It would be a success if it fixed the economy like they said it would. To this point, it hasn't done anything at all and the economy is just as bad, if not worse, than it was before they pushed it through.