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[MindSpin]

Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin and the UFC's Deep Talent Pool Mean Fedor Emelianenko's Time as Number One Is Almost Up

 by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 23, 2010 7:19 PM EDT in News   302 comments


Another Fedor fight, another build-up based around Fedor's place in the rankings.  Strikeforce continues to be poor in the promotion department and it's left up to the media and fans to create the narrative of the fight.  I haven't heard any Strikeforce reps building up Fabricio Werdum to establish him as a legitimate threat or even to talk about his credentials.  That job seems to have been left up to men like Jonathan Snowden and Kid Nate. And yet again the mainstream media that so many claim are enchanted by Fedor Emelianenko is deathly quiet about Saturday night's contest.

While fans continue to struggle with the legitimate challenger status of a man who was knocked out cold by one of the UFC's rising stars and eeked out a narrow win over the good-not-great Antonio "Bigfoot" SIlva, Brock Lesnar and Shane Carwin prepare for their titanic clash.  I don't think with Fedor/Werdum that "the challenger" has a realistic shot to pull off a win.  Carwin and Lesnar are meeting in a bout where it can not be said with any level of certainty what will happen. Right now I think that can be said of a bout between any two of Lesnar, Carwin, Cain Velasquez and Junior dos Santos.

Just the fact that the level of competition is so much higher in the UFC makes for a simple truth: Fedor Emelianenko's time as the best heavyweight in the world is almost at an end.

The only thing keeping Fedor on that pedestal right now is the fact that Lesnar, Carwin, Velasquez and dos Santos don't have the established resume yet, but one of them will within six months.  Assuming the Lesnar/Carwin winner faces Cain Velasquez in 4-6 months, it would be an absurdity to think that the winner of that fight is not the world's current #1 heavyweight.  The UFC "big four," representing 4 of the top 5 heavyweights in the world, are all going to continue to battle it out in the UFC shark tank while Fedor hangs out in the lazy river with marginal top ten fighters.  At some point the competition a man faces has to matter in determining who the best in the world is at that moment.  Once one of the UFC heavyweights has established himself and gotten the two big wins they need, it will be time to re-evaluate who is the heavyweight top dog.

This is not intended as a slight to Fedor, you're not going to find a bigger PRIDE fanboy than me.  In my mind no one will even be in the discussion with him as the best heavyweight the sport has ever seen for years while the UFC's divisional hierarchy is established.  He will still hold that crown based on his dominance in PRIDE when that was "the place" for top heavyweight competition.  Watching Fedor fight was always special and I think it still is. Sadly, now it is only special because of the show he puts on rather than the men he does it against.

If we see another long layoff by the Russian following this fight, Saturday night will probably be the last time in MMA that we see a bout featuring a fighter considered the world's best taking place outside of a Zuffa promotion.  Enjoy it and realize that you're watching history unfold over the course of seven days.

[HICKSON]

Brent just playing the other side to Snowden article.


A reply from Fedor to the comment he made about not watching/liking UFC fights.

I did not want to offend the UFC in any way. What I meant is, I don't like to watch fights in general. My main concern is what kind of culture I bring, myself.

It has always been for me that some fighters would appear and people would want to see me in matches against these fighters. That will always happen. As for the UFC, when my contract with Strikeforce is over - I have two fights left on my contract - the UFC will have the time and the opportunity to prepare and offer a contract that may be interesting to me.

I deep down still believe we will see Fedor in the UFC for @ least for 3 fights.

[MindSpin]

Brent just playing the other side to Snowden article.


A reply from Fedor to the comment he made about not watching/liking UFC fights.

I did not want to offend the UFC in any way. What I meant is, I don't like to watch fights in general. My main concern is what kind of culture I bring, myself.

It has always been for me that some fighters would appear and people would want to see me in matches against these fighters. That will always happen. As for the UFC, when my contract with Strikeforce is over - I have two fights left on my contract - the UFC will have the time and the opportunity to prepare and offer a contract that may be interesting to me.

I deep down still believe we will see Fedor in the UFC for @ least for 3 fights.

hope you're right.

[Fury]

It's amazing that people will sit there and argue, with a straight face no less, that the UFC HW division is loaded with talent when the champion has a 4-1 record against cans and is a former WWE actor. It's just too funny.

[HICKSON]

hope you're right.

One thing I have noticed is that Fedor seems to have more of a grasp/voice of his management & the actions of his company as of late.

There have been recent interviews with Fedor doing all the talking & Valium sitting off to the side not saying a word, which is a total 180 from a year or 2 ago.

[MindSpin]

It's amazing that people will sit there and argue, with a straight face no less, that the UFC HW division is loaded with talent when the champion has a 4-1 record against cans and is a former WWE actor. It's just too funny.

Look at any ranking. Aside from Fedor, all have UFC heavyweights in the top 5-6. I guess all the experts are wrong and the horsefaced Internet warrior is right

[AC Slater]

Look at any ranking. Aside from Fedor, all have UFC heavyweights in the top 5-6. I guess all the experts are wrong and the horsefaced Internet warrior is right

How can these 'experts' rank a guy with a 4-1 record #2 in the world when he hasnt fought in a year?  Hell he was ranked 7th when he had a 2-1 record by these same 'experts'.

These 'experts' are the internet warriors.  I wouldnt be surprised if the UFC paid them to rank their fighters high.

[MindSpin]

How can these 'experts' rank a guy with a 4-1 record #2 in the world when he hasnt fought in a year?  Hell he was ranked 7th when he had a 2-1 record by these same 'experts'.

These 'experts' are the internet warriors.  I wouldnt be surprised if the UFC paid them to rank their fighters high.

No shit.  These same "experts" have that fat alcoholic Russian ranked as #1 

[George Whorewell]

Brent just playing the other side to Snowden article.


A reply from Fedor to the comment he made about not watching/liking UFC fights.

I did not want to offend the UFC in any way. What I meant is, I don't like to watch fights in general. My main concern is what kind of culture I bring, myself.

It has always been for me that some fighters would appear and people would want to see me in matches against these fighters. That will always happen. As for the UFC, when my contract with Strikeforce is over - I have two fights left on my contract - the UFC will have the time and the opportunity to prepare and offer a contract that may be interesting to me.

I deep down still believe we will see Fedor in the UFC for @ least for 3 fights.

QFT 110%- I have been saying the same thing for more than 6 months now. Werdum, Overeem, Barnett- a 2 fight UFC deal and then retirement.

[WeightPSHR]

It's amazing that people will sit there and argue, with a straight face no less, that the UFC HW division is loaded with talent when the champion has a 4-1 record against cans and is a former WWE actor. It's just too funny.

Are you forgetting the fact that he was a highly decorated collegiate wrestler?
You make it sound like he is Batista or something.

[AC Slater]

No shit.  These same "experts" have that fat alcoholic Russian ranked as #1 

Absolutely, however Fedor hasnt lost a fight in over a decade 

[WeightPSHR]

Absolutely, however Fedor hasnt lost a fight in over a decade 

Fedor's record id BS.

With wins over Hong Man Choi and a washed up Coleman, A non-heavyweight Matt Lindland, it's hard to take his record seriously.

Fedor's management is closely tied to the Russian mob.

Case closed.

[titusisback]

Fedor's management is closely tied to the Russian mob.

That makes him even more bad ass!! yeah!!!

[chaos]

Again?

[George Whorewell]

Well lets see, Lesnar has a win over Dong Syung Kim or some shit- A fat Korean reject fighting for shit promotions that gets used like a heavybag by everyone he faces. That's one win. Then, he has a loss to Frank Mir, a win over Frank Mir a win over an undersized, one dimensional elderly, washed up Randy Coture. I guess beating Heath Herring by decision 5 years after he was considered a legit fighter is the difference between Lesnar and Fedor being ranked number 1 in your eyes.

You kiss Lesnars ass for taking out a has been that Fedor dispatched in his prime by brutal stoppage to a decision.

You knock Fedor for beating Coleman in 2006 because Coleman was washed up, yet you give Lesnar credit for beating Randy Coture at HW when he was clearly washed up.

You kiss Velasquezs ass for knocking out an obviously old and washed up Nogeurra when Fedor doiminated him from start to finish when he was in his prime and took his belt.

You call JDS the second coming when his only impressive win is over Gabriel Gonzaga ( can we add Fabricio Werdum to that or is he a can?)



Your logic really strains the imagination. It's ok though. By next year all of this nonsense will be put to rest once and for all.

[HICKSON]

Well lets see, Lesnar has a win over Dong Syung Kim or some shit- A fat Korean reject fighting for shit promotions that gets used like a heavybag by everyone he faces. That's one win. Then, he has a loss to Frank Mir, a win over Frank Mir a win over an undersized, one dimensional elderly, washed up Randy Coture. I guess beating Heath Herring by decision 5 years after he was considered a legit fighter is the difference between Lesnar and Fedor being ranked number 1 in your eyes.

You kiss Lesnars ass for taking out a has been that Fedor dispatched in his prime by brutal stoppage to a decision.

You knock Fedor for beating Coleman in 2006 because Coleman was washed up, yet you give Lesnar credit for beating Randy Coture at HW when he was clearly washed up.

You kiss Velasquezs ass for knocking out an obviously old and washed up Nogeurra when Fedor doiminated him from start to finish when he was in his prime and took his belt.

You call JDS the second coming when his only impressive win is over Gabriel Gonzaga ( can we add Fabricio Werdum to that or is he a can?)



Your logic really strains the imagination. It's ok though. By next year all of this nonsense will be put to rest once and for all.

Very nice post!!!

QFT!!!!!!

[MindSpin]

Absolutely, however Fedor hasnt lost a fight in over a decade 

Easy to do when you're avoiding top competition and fighting cans

[MindSpin]

Well lets see, Lesnar has a win over Dong Syung Kim or some shit- A fat Korean reject fighting for shit promotions that gets used like a heavybag by everyone he faces. That's one win. Then, he has a loss to Frank Mir, a win over Frank Mir a win over an undersized, one dimensional elderly, washed up Randy Coture. I guess beating Heath Herring by decision 5 years after he was considered a legit fighter is the difference between Lesnar and Fedor being ranked number 1 in your eyes.

You kiss Lesnars ass for taking out a has been that Fedor dispatched in his prime by brutal stoppage to a decision.

You knock Fedor for beating Coleman in 2006 because Coleman was washed up, yet you give Lesnar credit for beating Randy Coture at HW when he was clearly washed up.

You kiss Velasquezs ass for knocking out an obviously old and washed up Nogeurra when Fedor doiminated him from start to finish when he was in his prime and took his belt.

You call JDS the second coming when his only impressive win is over Gabriel Gonzaga ( can we add Fabricio Werdum to that or is he a can?)



Your logic really strains the imagination. It's ok though. By next year all of this nonsense will be put to rest once and for all.

Randy is washed up  

Can't knock Lesnar for fighting a can in his FIRST MMA fight.  But, you can knock Fedor for fighting cans throughout his career.

[AC Slater]

Randy is washed up  

Can't knock Lesnar for fighting a can in his FIRST MMA fight.  But, you can knock Fedor for fighting cans throughout his career.

hahaha, oh brother.

Listen kid, Fabricio Werdum is no can.  He was the #1 contender for the UFC HW belt when he got KO'd by Dos Santos.  Dos Santos is a killer, no doubt about that.  So you are trying to say that a guy who was the #1 contender in the UFC all of a sudden becomes a can when he gets KO'd by another badass fighter?

[MindSpin]

hahaha, oh brother.

Listen kid, Fabricio Werdum is no can.  He was the #1 contender for the UFC HW belt when he got KO'd by Dos Santos.  Dos Santos is a killer, no doubt about that.  So you are trying to say that a guy who was the #1 contender in the UFC all of a sudden becomes a can when he gets KO'd by another badass fighter?

If he was the #1 contender in the UFC, what was he doing fighting JDS

Also, if Fedor is the #1 ranked heavyweight, what is he doing fighting #10

[WeightPSHR]

Well lets see, Lesnar has a win over Dong Syung Kim or some shit- A fat Korean reject fighting for shit promotions that gets used like a heavybag by everyone he faces. That's one win. Then, he has a loss to Frank Mir, a win over Frank Mir a win over an undersized, one dimensional elderly, washed up Randy Coture. I guess beating Heath Herring by decision 5 years after he was considered a legit fighter is the difference between Lesnar and Fedor being ranked number 1 in your eyes.

You kiss Lesnars ass for taking out a has been that Fedor dispatched in his prime by brutal stoppage to a decision.

You knock Fedor for beating Coleman in 2006 because Coleman was washed up, yet you give Lesnar credit for beating Randy Coture at HW when he was clearly washed up.

You kiss Velasquezs ass for knocking out an obviously old and washed up Nogeurra when Fedor doiminated him from start to finish when he was in his prime and took his belt.

You call JDS the second coming when his only impressive win is over Gabriel Gonzaga ( can we add Fabricio Werdum to that or is he a can?)



Your logic really strains the imagination. It's ok though. By next year all of this nonsense will be put to rest once and for all.

The part you are forgetting is one, all you chumps keep bringing up Fedor's record and being undefeated.
He is the #1 HW in the world. He has no business fighting Coleman or guys on their second MMA fighte ever.
Fedor is also catching a lot of slack because Werdum is #10 ranked.

You know how crazy that is? A #10 guy fighting a #1 guy for a title!

[gmflex]

for the ufc nuthuggers   


Quote of the Day: Fedor Emelianenko Will Consider Offers From UFC After Two Strikefor

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Quote of the Day: Fedor Emelianenko Will Consider Offers From UFC After Two Strikeforce Fights - Bloody Elbow


Quote:
I did not want to offend the UFC in any way. What I meant is, I don't like to watch fights in general. My main concern is what kind of culture I bring, myself.

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It has always been for me that some fighters would appear and people would want to see me in matches against these fighters. That will always happen. As for the UFC, when my contract with Strikeforce is over - I have two fights left on my contract - the UFC will have the time and the opportunity to prepare and offer a contract that may be interesting to me. 

[WeightPSHR]

hahaha, oh brother.

Listen kid, Fabricio Werdum is no can.  He was the #1 contender for the UFC HW belt when he got KO'd by Dos Santos.  Dos Santos is a killer, no doubt about that.  So you are trying to say that a guy who was the #1 contender in the UFC all of a sudden becomes a can when he gets KO'd by another badass fighter?

Werdum lost to Arvloski and got shit-canned from the UFC.

Not much else to really say.

[spinnis]

[Fury]

hahaha, oh brother.

Listen kid, Fabricio Werdum is no can.  He was the #1 contender for the UFC HW belt when he got KO'd by Dos Santos.  Dos Santos is a killer, no doubt about that.  So you are trying to say that a guy who was the #1 contender in the UFC all of a sudden becomes a can when he gets KO'd by another badass fighter?

MindspinStoolPSHR getting owned again.